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Old 05-16-2011, 3:33 PM
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Default Arizona CCW Permit Timeline

OK- As you are aware, Nevada has reported they will start to honor AZ CCW permits including non-resident effective 7/1/11.

I am going to go ahead and apply assuming it will come to fruition. Will keep this thread updated with timeline of the process.

5/15/11- Email inquiry requesting application
5/16/11- Received email notification request was received and packet will be mailed to address provided.

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From: PMacagnone@azdps.gov [mailto:PMacagnone@azdps.gov] On Behalf Of CCW@azdps.gov
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Subject: Re: Azdps.gov General Inquiry


RECENT CHANGE IN ARIZONA LAW - Senate Bill 1108

Effective July 29, 2010, Arizona is now a constitutional carry state, which means everyone can carry concealed without a permit in Arizona, if it is not posted otherwise.

With that new law, we will be implementing new procedures and rules allowing other firearm training courses (including military training, any NRA firearms class, and some other states permits) in place of the 8hr CCW course previously required.

You have to provide proof of firearms training. Below is the full list of alternate documents we can accept.


ALTERNATE DOCUMENT SUBMISSIONS (13-3112)


_ GENERAL PUBLIC COURSES/CLASSES (E6b, N2)
...A current or expired permit issued by DPS…

_ GAME & FISH (E6B, N3)
Original/Copy of certificate/card/document of completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona Game & Fish or a similar agency of another state.
**Document from “similar agency of another state” requires supervisor approval.

_ NRA (E6b, N4)
Original/Copy of certificate/card/document of completion of any National Rifle Association (NRA) firearms safety or training course.

_ SECURITY GUARD (E6b, N5)
Original/Copy of certificate/card/document of completion of the DPS Armed Security Guard firearms safety course; or any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement.
**Courses/classes other than DPS Armed Security Guard course must be approved by DPS through submission of lesson plan.

_ LAW ENFORCEMENT (Et6b, N8)
Original/Copy of certificate/card/document of completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.
**May require supervisor approval.

_ OTHER FIREARMS SAFETY TRAINING DEEMED ACCEPTABLE BY DPS (E6b, N9)
Original/Copy of certificate/card/document of completion of any other firearms training that the department of public safety deems acceptable.
**TBD – Requires supervisor approval.

_ MILITARY/DD-214 (E6c, N6)
Original/Copy of U.S. Department of Defense form 214 (DD-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions; or a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of current service in the U.S. Armed Forces or former service with honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from U.S. Armed Forces.
**Documents other than DD-214 may require supervisor approval.

_ STATE PERMITS (E6d, N7)
Original/Copy of a valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.
**Requires verification of good standing and training/testing requirement.

We only mail the application packets. I will mail an application packet to the address you provided.

The packet includes the application, 2 fingerprint cards, and return envelope.
The fee is $60 (money order/cashier's check only).

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I got the same reply as well expecting my packet in the mail!
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received the same email yesterday
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I have my Packet already. Im getting printed wed and will mail app same Day.
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r1 man - How long did it take for you to get the packet after requesting it?
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I got the packet a few months ago . but it only took about 3-5 days if I remember correctly. it also came with the 2 Fingerprint cards.

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Heh, this time I'm on the same time line.
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They're pretty quick about turning around permits as long as your prints are legible and your paperwork is complete. They received my application on a Monday and I had my permit on Saturday which means my permit was mailed out at most two days after they received my application. But this was before the news that NV would start recognizing AZ permits, so maybe they're getting a lot more applications now?
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Wow thats Quick!
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r1 man - How long did it take for you to get the packet after requesting it?
Any idea where we can get rolled in Sac area Jeff?
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Do they have a Online application form that we can download and fill it up? Instead of wasting their paper and stamp just only to mail it to out of state applicant.
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Do they have a Online application form that we can download and fill it up? Instead of wasting their paper and stamp just only to mail it to out of state applicant.

I doubt it. If there was, I'm sure they would be prompting people to use it instead of mailing it out. I would guess it is because of the print cards that are required.
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Wait so, California residents can apply for CCW permits in the state of Arizona, which ultimately allows you to conceal carry in Nevada too? I thought you'd have to be a resident of AZ in order to apply for the permit, but for visitors you can conceal carry anyways without the permit because of their new law?

Edit: Nvm, did a little research, found out non-resident can apply for the same permit, pretty darn sweet.

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I doubt it. If there was, I'm sure they would be prompting people to use it instead of mailing it out. I would guess it is because of the print cards that are required.
Ohh yeah, i forgot about the ink print. Thank you Andy.
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Do they have a Online application form that we can download and fill it up? Instead of wasting their paper and stamp just only to mail it to out of state applicant.
Check out my intial post towards bottom. They say they only mail applications.

Yea, online would of streamlined for sure.

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Does the fingerprinting need to be done by LE agency?

Edit: never mind fingerprinting does NOT need to be done by LE agency! Does anybody know a good place to be printed in modesto/tracy/stockton area?
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I dont think it has to be. Not to many Police Dept do ink prints anymore . I went to a place in Modesto they charged me $14.00 and no waiting. Manteca PD charges $30.00 and took over an Hr! Im waiting for Nevadas CCW to show up but I figured I'd Get Arizonas Just to add to My CCW Collection !...LOL Mailing mine out today.

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Non- Residents Can Conceal or OC in Az with out A permit but there are restrictions. With A CCW I believe there Arent Any. I could be wrong though.
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This is exciting as the Utah CCW doesn't cover either AZ or NV. I will apply ASAP as I am planning a road trip throughout the Southwest in a couple of months.

To what e-mail address should I send my request for the application package? If this was covered in the previous posts, I apologize. I hurried through all the posts because I'm anxious to get going and am excited by the prospect.

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This is exciting as the Utah CCW doesn't cover either AZ or NV. I will apply ASAP as I am planning a road trip throughout the Southwest in a couple of months.

To what e-mail address should I send my request for the application package? If this was covered in the previous posts, I apologize. I hurried through all the posts because I'm anxious to get going and am excited by the prospect.

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I went to a UPS store near my house. The 5714 Folsom Blvd., 7485 Rush River Drive and 9175 Kiefer Blvd. ($15/card) all do fingerprinting.

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MoBait,

Thanks. I e-mailed and already got a response that they will be sending the application package. Very cool!

I understand the New Mexico also accepts the AZ licence. If so, with the UT and AZ license, I should be gtg in all western states, excpet maybe OR, and of course, our beloved CA!
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I, too, sent away for my application packet. I am advised it has been mailed.

Question to those who have already received their packet: Does Arizona, like Florida, insist the fingerprinting be performed by a "Law Enforcement" entity, or will Arizona accept non law enforcement?
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5/17 I Mailed out Arizona CCW Application certified.

On the back of the AZ CCW app it says you can have Law Enforcement or A Private Company do the Finger Prints.
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On the back of the AZ CCW app it says you can have Law Enforcement or A Private Company do the Finger Prints.
Thanks for the very prompt response. I'll start lining up someone now.
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I dont think it has to be. Not to many Police Dept do ink prints anymore . I went to a place in Modesto they charged me $14.00 and no waiting. Manteca PD charges $30.00 and took over an Hr! Im waiting for Nevadas CCW to show up but I figured I'd Get Arizonas Just to add to My CCW Collection !...LOL Mailing mine out today.
what place is this in modesto that you speak of?
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Back in December it took about 8 days to get mine. A few corrections:

Arizona does honor Utah.

Reciprocity and recognition are different things.

An AZ permit allows carry into places that sell alcohol as long as they haven't posted signs that must conform to state standards. However being a non-resident is one affirmative defense to a violation.

The key statutes are here:

http://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03112.htm

http://www.azleg.gov/ars/4/00229.htm

http://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03102.htm
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Any idea where we can get rolled in Sac area Jeff?
Found one. For Sacramento area Roseville PD does ink prints. $15 first card, $20 if you do two, $30 for 3 in case anyone wants to get UT and FL prints done at the same time. Notary is extra $10.

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Jim,

I went to a UPS store near my house. The 5714 Folsom Blvd., 7485 Rush River Drive and 9175 Kiefer Blvd. ($15/card) all do fingerprinting.

Jeff
Thanks. Didn't know UPS did ink prints too. I thought they were just Live Scan. Roseville PD is cheaper for multiple as long as you are in the area.
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Jim,

I went to a UPS store near my house. The 5714 Folsom Blvd., 7485 Rush River Drive and 9175 Kiefer Blvd. ($15/card) all do fingerprinting.

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That seems expensive. My local sheriff's office does it for $5/card. That's in FL though.
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I got my Arizona CCW about two years ago while I was there. Had to do an 8hr class and qualify at the range. Has this changed and not needed any more to get a AZ CCW??


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More info can be found here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=432296

See post #1 of this thread. AZ honors other documents that show equivalent training for non resident applicants.

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Got it! I just didnt read it completely. Thanks for pointing that out.....
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I submitted a request for information regarding the Arizona CCW via their e-mail link last night about midnight. I had a reply with a statement at the bottom that they would mail me an application packet today at about 10 AM!!!

Hopefully I will have my Arizona CCW before my roadtrip at the end of June!

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It says send your original copy of your firearms safety course certificate will they send it back?? Or keep it?
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Couple questions:

1) Still seems to be some confusion as to whether AZ will honor a CA CCW permit and/or the 8 hour CCW course that you took to get the CA CCW

2) What will an NV police officers stance be if he is shown a CA driver;s license and an AZ CCW permit?
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As far as the fingerprint cards go, if it doesn't have to be done by a LE agency, then why not do them yourself? Problem with getting the ink? Needs to be notarized? What's the deal?

Shouldn't be an issue of using someone else's prints, because many people's prints should already be on record. Especially if you already have a CA CCW. They should be able to verify that the prints match the name on the application..
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