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Old 02-25-2011, 1:56 PM
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I recently picked up a xd40 sub compact. Would like to know if I made a block to limit mag capacity to 10rds would that make a 12 rd mag a legal mag in california. Got the idea from my magpul 10/30 blocks.
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As long as the modification to the magazine is quote "permanent"

Just inserting the block is not good enough if it can just be removed on a whim
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Old 02-25-2011, 3:11 PM
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Would epoxying the block to the baseplate of the mag be considered permanent ?
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Old 02-25-2011, 3:33 PM
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I think we're missing some key information here.

Were these mags that came with the firearm, or rebuild kits you acquired for building 10-round magazines?

Are you assuming that possession of large-cap mags is unlawful because many AR/AK mags are blocked? Are you aware of why the mags for maglock-equipped evil-featured weapons are 10 rounds?
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Old 02-25-2011, 4:49 PM
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The mag in question came with the pistol. It is a 12rd. It was disassembled prior to being shipped from out of state. My question is can I modify it to be a 10rd therefore legal in Ca or just get rid of it.

And yes I am aware of the reasons for AR/AK mag blocks.
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Would epoxying the block to the baseplate of the mag be considered permanent ?
Ya that sounds like you would pretty much have to destroy the mag to get it back to 12 round capacity. Sounds permanent to me. Epoxying the baseplate to the body of the mag after the block is inserted is a common method also.

Unfortunately while PC 12020 says the modification has to be permanent, there is no further description of what this means nor have the courts described this for us. Most people seem to think it means you'd have to pretty much destroy the mag to bring it back to "large-capacity" or if you would have to start drilling things out, but that isn't actually written anywhere, just more of a common sense standard.

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(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any
ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it
cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12020.html
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Old 02-25-2011, 5:27 PM
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12 round mag in a sub-compact? Uhhhh.. Seems like that would be, strange.

Why not just go with flush-fit mags for that gun?
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It comes with a 9rd flush fit and a 12rd w/grip extension sleeve.
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