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Old 12-27-2010, 11:36 PM
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Default ~OVER~Mini AK Build and barrel thread/recrown Party- *Inland Empire* -Jan 22nd, 2011

FEB build party info and sign up HERE.

This is just a one day gathering for some I.E. AK builders to come and do things in the furtherance of building/finishing their AK's.

This will be for about 5 people, 8am-ish to 5pm-ish. If you have some tools you know you will be using, bring them. If you have none, I have you covered.

Things to do include:
Folding flats (AK builder only please)
Grind rails
Fit mag catch
MIG welding rails
Heat treating holes (MAPP and Acetylene)
Setting rivets (rivet squeezer and long rivet jig)
Installing barrels (new or OE)
Setting head space
Drilling barrel pin
Reaming anything (5mm, 7mm, and oversized holes to .300")
Populating barrel
Drilling gas port (Romy)
Drill 3mm & 4mm pin holes
Alum Oxide blasting
Parkerizing

PM me with what you'd like to get done or to reserve a spot. I'd like to avoid bottle necks or lines for any one thing if I can. Price varies on what you'd like to get done: $20-$50 (for whole day/completing a whole rifle). Lurkers OK with guests approval. I have some parts if your stuck, but they aren't cheap so come prepared! This will all be indoors, but tailgate AK'ing is pretty damn convenient!

Things I *can* do but don't without prep time and customer desire:
Duracoat/cerakote/paint
Torch welding
milling of stuff (*cough*AR PPWTS*Cough*)

Things I *CANNOT* do:
Anodizing
CNC work
5.45x39 headspacing (unless you bring go/no-go gauges)

If we get done before dark we can jet over to the range 20 minutes away for test firing. No crazy mag dumps unless we are packed in the cars ready to jet out!

Lunch can either be BBQ hotdogs or favorite pizza. BYOB, LOC AOK.

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4 spots left.

No need to post here to get your spot. This isn't a roll call thread and the identities will be change to protect the innocent.

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Do you need to drive off road to get to the location ?
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Unless you consider the grassy 100 yards from front gate to the back yard "off road", that's a negative.

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2 spots left.

I will be placing an AK-Builder order on the 7th of Jan. If you need anything just send me a shopping list and I'll collect when we party. I have some NIB Tapco 10 rounders if your thinking of buying some. AKB's price as they came from Curtis.

If your going to need any special tooling, let me know now so I can arrange to buy/borrow/rent/have it for use. Within reason of course.

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If anyone needs to build a Yugo flat, RPK flat, or RPK 74 flat let your host know. I can supply the punch.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:31 AM
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Put me on the list. My kit should be 85-90% done depending how much time I get here at home. Please let me know what tools you need me to bring. I will not be renting a small suv so limit what I can bring. Please let me know thanks .

7.62 x 39 Headspace Gauge , GO
7.62 x 39 Headspace Gauge , NO GO

5.45 x 39 Headspace Gauge , GO
5.45 x 39 Headspace Gauge , NO GO
5.45 x 39 Headspace Gauge , FEILD

AK-Builder Barrel Press Kit

AK-Builder Flat Bending Die Set
# 1mm .040" Punch
# 1.5mm .063" Punch

Gas Piston Rivet Drilling Fixture
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AK Trunnion Rivet Hole Drilling Fixture
I HAVE THE BELOW Idems
# 7.62 Red Mandrel
# 5.45 Blue Mandrel
# Chinese 19mm Green Mandrel

AK-Builder Rail Alignment Fixture

Top Rail Layout Scribe Jig

Ak-Builder Rivet Tool
Riveting Adapter for 74 Fixed Stock Forked Rear Trunnions

AK47 Trigger Guard Riveting Jig

Hardened Trigger Guard Rivet Drilling Jig

AK BUILDER 30amp Spot Welder Kit W/Tong

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Old 12-29-2010, 2:23 AM
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Thank you Mach. The offer is appreciated.


WTSGDBBR- If you don't mind bringing the following:
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Put me on the list. My kit should be 85-90% done depending how much time I get here at home. Please let me know what tools you need me to bring. I will not be renting a small suv so limit what I can bring. Please let me know thanks .

7.62 x 39 Headspace Gauge , GO
7.62 x 39 Headspace Gauge , NO GO
PLEASE--VV--
5.45 x 39 Headspace Gauge , GO
5.45 x 39 Headspace Gauge , NO GO
5.45 x 39 Headspace Gauge , FEILD
PLEASE--VV--
AK-Builder Barrel Press Kit
SURE--VV--
AK-Builder Flat Bending Die Set
# 1mm .040" Punch
# 1.5mm .063" Punch

Gas Piston Rivet Drilling Fixture
Gas Piston Drill Bit
SURE--VV--
AK Trunnion Rivet Hole Drilling Fixture
I HAVE THE BELOW Idems
# 7.62 Red Mandrel
# 5.45 Blue Mandrel
# Chinese 19mm Green Mandrel

AK-Builder Rail Alignment Fixture

Top Rail Layout Scribe Jig
ADAPTER--VV--
Ak-Builder Rivet Tool
Riveting Adapter for 74 Fixed Stock Forked Rear Trunnions
SPARE IS NICE--VV--
AK47 Trigger Guard Riveting Jig

Hardened Trigger Guard Rivet Drilling Jig
FOR THOSE NOT WANTING MIG--VV--
AK BUILDER 30amp Spot Welder Kit W/Tong
DONT HURT YOUR BACK--VV--
Small HF Drill Press
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I will bring what I can fit in the trunk thanks .

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do you have the stuff to thread barrels?
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Old 12-29-2010, 8:03 PM
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Just wondering.. drilling gas port (Romy G) is only for new barrels, right?
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Atto, generally yes, unless the gas port was already pre-drilled when bought.
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The things in red are probably stuff you can leave at home. Most people shouldn't change the gas piston. Flat, fcg, pg, mb is good enough. You don't need the rail stuff because the new ak builder flats have the rails cut already

and if no one is building a 74, I would leave that stuff at home.

That's what I kinda fingered . Z are you going to show up as well ?
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That sounds awesome!
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Atto- these guys are correct. If you know your barrel will work with a certain size hole, ill make sure to have one available.

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do you have the stuff to thread barrels?
Negative. But I'm not opposed to buying what would be needed to do it on my lathe or just a threading die at minimum. All my US barrels come threaded from AofA.

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Negative. But I'm not opposed to buying what would be needed to do it on my lathe or just a threading die at minimum. All my US barrels come threaded from AofA.

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I have a 7.62 and a 308 barrel I want to cut down/thread
Im not sure what is needed

I think bigthai knows tho,
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Atto- these guys are correct. If you know your barrel will work with a certain size hole, ill make sure to have one available.



Negative. But I'm not opposed to buying what would be needed to do it on my lathe or just a threading die at minimum. All my US barrels come threaded from AofA.

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how far away are you from kerman, might come out t parkerize my first build if your ok with that, could bring some tools also. depends on the drive tho.....if you get the stuff to cut a rethread barrels would you be able to cut my psl barrel down for my pistol build? if not its cool but i would be able to kick you down a few bucks or buy some beer.
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how far away are you from kerman, might come out t parkerize my first build if your ok with that, could bring some tools also. depends on the drive tho.....if you get the stuff to cut a rethread barrels would you be able to cut my psl barrel down for my pistol build? if not its cool but i would be able to kick you down a few bucks or buy some beer.
You are probably looking at a 5 hour drive, one way, from where you are.
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any room? I'd like to blast and park my rifle.
If your just blasting and parking, your more than welcome over.

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You are probably looking at a 5 hour drive, one way, from where you are.
Yep, yahoo says 4.5 hours. If your ever in the area (including the 22nd) give me a holler the day before so I can have it all warmed up and ready to cook.


As of now I'd say room for one more builder.

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I have a 7.62 and a 308 barrel I want to cut down/thread
Im not sure what is needed

I think bigthai knows tho,
We can cut them down and profile them no prob. I'll order a real parting tool too.

As for a perfect crown or threading, I'm still at a loss but have seen some professional tools I'd like to get.

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If your just blasting and parking, your more than welcome over.



Yep, yahoo says 4.5 hours. If your ever in the area (including the 22nd) give me a holler the day before so I can have it all warmed up and ready to cook.


As of now I'd say room for one more builder.

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appreciate it ill have to take you up on that offer one of these days. if it lands on a day i dont have class on the 22nd ill try and make it out there to park my rifle if your ok with that.
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As for a perfect crown or threading, I'm still at a loss but have seen some professional tools I'd like to get.

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More tools for ya .........

http://www.shop.preciseinnovationsll...1&productId=75

Or, you can rent it.

http://www.dinzagarms.com/tools/tools.html
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Can I swing by???
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Ill pay you for the 308 one and Ill let you keep it

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http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/akpou12.html

I would love to have a flip up sight on my Saiga 12
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http://www.dinzagarms.com/saiga_12/akpou12.html

I would love to have a flip up sight on my Saiga 12
ya its kinda cool
spendy tho



10 to 12 weeks for deliver ?!?!?!

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X and Jeff, I'd be honored to have You guys over.

Ill place the threading order tomorrow when I'm at a PC. While I'm there, what other sizes should I be getting besides 14x1LH and .308 for general AK and (maybe) AR goodness?

I saw a nice professional/budget crowning tool I'm trying to find again as well.

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X and Jeff, I'd be honored to have You guys over.

Ill place the threading order tomorrow when I'm at a PC. While I'm there, what other sizes should I be getting besides 14x1LH and .308 for general AK and (maybe) AR goodness?

I saw a nice professional/budget crowning tool I'm trying to find again as well.

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woohoo!

sound like I need to start looking for muzzle brakes


its gunna be awesome building ak's amongst watercooled's
funny how our passions change..
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Is there anyway we can do this near Sacramento, or even close north to Chico?? Anyone in the area know how to build?


PM me if you know anyone.
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Is there anyway we can do this near Sacramento, or even close north to Chico?? Anyone in the area know how to build?


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there are build parties all the time

one is coming up in the sjvalley
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X and Jeff, I'd be honored to have You guys over.

Ill place the threading order tomorrow when I'm at a PC. While I'm there, what other sizes should I be getting besides 14x1LH and .308 for general AK and (maybe) AR goodness?

I saw a nice professional/budget crowning tool I'm trying to find again as well.

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"X" I put the barrel pin I owed you in the mail today. Since your close you should have it in a day or so. Thanks again for all your help.
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here is a really cool barrel crowning kit, this is the cheeper military rifle kit set for around 175 i believe if i get enough money before the party i am going to try and pick it up and ill bring it out to the party if i can make it.. check it out its pretty awesome..

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Nice so when ever you cut down a barrel you need to one re thread and re crown .
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here is a really cool barrel crowning kit, this is the cheeper military rifle kit set for around 175 i believe if i get enough money before the party i am going to try and pick it up and ill bring it out to the party if i can make it.. check it out its pretty awesome..

THATS THE ONE!!!!

If you don't buy one, I will!

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you may as well rename this the mini barrel threading/recrowning party
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