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Old 12-05-2010, 1:04 PM
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I would gladly volunteer to be part of the process for CCW application in Alameda.
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Having carried a weapon for 28 years, I think I need it for protection.

Applied for P.I. License, & passed test today, (11/14/07)

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As far as renewal requests, are the good cause statements looked at just as strictly as new requests, or does the issuing authority generally give more leniency for the renewals?

Part 1, Page 9, the licensee mentions 9/11 as a factor:

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2) Due to the numerous changes in security measure and the demand on Law Enforcement since 9/11 I have felt a need to increase my personal protection as well as my business protection

To sum my reason for a CCW is for self protction and the protection of my personal and business property which if in the wrong hands can create a problem especially for Law Enforcement.
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...I have been faced with a new line of customers from all races who basically present a new challenge for me in dealing with their needs and wants
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I would think that if a person submitting a GC letter that mentions race in any shape or form, would immediately be denied, especially with the tone above, no?

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Old 12-05-2010, 6:54 PM
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Renewals are only distinguished in the PC by the reduced fees, 4 hour minimum for training, and restrictions on some administrative components (fingerprints, psych testing, etc.).

That said, and something we'll be addressing, many sheriffs have their own version of a renewal. It does tend to favor existing license holders in that most renewals do not expressly challenge license holders to as-completely "re-justify" the license.
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Wow...some of those reasons are pretty darn weak in my opinion. I only say this because I've been told that I would not be granted a permit with similar reasoning. This is only "hearsay" on my part though, I have not wanted to attempt the process only to have being denied on my record. I've been told by many folks that once denied it does not favor well for you on future attempts even in other locations.

I just read the first of those file folders. The ones in there with things like "I work late", "I carry cash", "I've got weapons" are all reasons that I was told would not make any difference to them. Now, "my uncles brother" does not own a gun shop or anything, but all those other things pretty much fit my situation.....

There is obviously something more to the approval process.
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Another race situation, Part 2, page 50:

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...The risk of personal harm is high at this time. Many of the tenants are of Asian, Hispanic and Middle-Eastern persuasion and deal only in cash. This is their nature of doing business. They do not pay in checks, nor will they deliver the rent to my offices. I have to go to them.
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Interesting that some of the statements have situations where the mention of race comes in.

"Their", "They", and "Them" being defined as the Asian, Hispanic and Middle-Eastern tenants in the letter. Again (as I mentioned above), I would think that any mention of race as a factor for a request to be given a CCW license would be grounds for immediate denial, but I guess not.

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My eyes are spinning from skimming thru those .pdfs, but one thing stands out: business people who sometimes have to go into bad parts of town at odd hours. Q: How has Plummer/Ahern treated law-abiding citizens who live in those same bad parts of town? Do they get issued CCWs?

Now is when the entrenched "powers-that-be" start getting upset. This is when being able to carry a means of defending yourself & yours goes from being a privilege of the well-heeled and well-connected to a right in this state.
damn, that's true

i've never thought about that. I guess only the "money" people are worth protecting.
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that guy at the Castro Valley gun shop has quite the extended family....
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that guy at the Castro Valley gun shop has quite the extended family....
I went to one a few years ago, back after TBJ had gotten established, and spoke to a few people there about what they were hoping to do using Guillory and the 14th A and asked if I could leave a flier and my "business card fliers" for their customers. I was met w/a slightly hostile reaction, which surprised me, given the uniformly positive reactions I got at other east bay gun stores.

I think I now know why: the owner, his brother, and his nephew were all among the "more worthy to be defended than thou" elite (i.e., they got theirs from Plummer/Ahern and didn't want anybody rocking the boat).

I was going to visit that shop again, but this time w/CGF materials. I've decided to wait until there is a public announcement by CGF that Alameda is "Time to Apply" status.
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I love how "protection of goods" is both a carrot and a stick.

Also, how many of these "business purpose" permits are for 90 days?

Anyone want to guess?
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Old 12-07-2010, 1:08 AM
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I love how "protection of goods" is both a carrot and a stick.

Also, how many of these "business purpose" permits are for 90 days?

Anyone want to guess?
I'd say 0, but all I see is the good cause sheets and not the other underlying information.
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What I didn't see is if any of those have "business use only" restrictions.
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I like the application on San Francisco District Attorney letterhead! (2nd doc, page 15) Good stuff. Too bad it wasn't in time for the elections.

Ms. Harris, I see that you are a strong supporter of your employees' rights to defend themselves. Does this reflect a greater desire to empower other Californians to defend themselves as well? How do you reconcile this with your statements regarding the Heller decision? http://www.sfdistrictattorney.org/News.asp?id=458
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I like the application on San Francisco District Attorney letterhead! (2nd doc, page 15) Good stuff. Too bad it wasn't in time for the elections.

Ms. Harris, I see that you are a strong supporter of your employees' rights to defend themselves. Does this reflect a greater desire to empower other Californians to defend themselves as well? How do you reconcile this with your statements regarding the Heller decision? http://www.sfdistrictattorney.org/News.asp?id=458
Do not email that to the DA's office. You're trying to score political points on someone just to make yourself feel better. Don't do it.
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Take it easy man, it was a joke. Not planning on talking with any DA's in any capacity. Not running for office or in any need of political points or particularly interested in feeling better. OK then, glad that's settled.
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It is my understanding in my case that the Sheriff has waived proof of personal liability insurance.

I don't know if the Sheriff has waived further letters from me describing circumstances that justify the need to carry a concealed weapon. In the event he has not, I am requesting renewal because I am a Deputy District Attorney...
I would be interested to know if the Sheriff at the time (09/05/2009) actually DID waive proof of PLI and further letters (what letters? GC letters?)?? Anyone know how that might work for others in an EP (equal protection) situation?

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There are at least two other renewal applications that refer to insurance waivers.
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I just read through the first PDF and found it interesting that significantly more than half of them involve "I do <insert activity> at night." So what? Because I work during the day or do my banking at noon, does that mean I have less of a reason to protect myself? Because it's light out, does that mean I'm going to be able to fight any better than at night? Pretty silly if you ask me.
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Observation... having read through the entire file there seems to be a common thread and I am assuming that all that I read were granted. I could fashion a GC statement that accurately paraphrased the ones reviewed. But I think that I should wait...Someone tell me when would be the appropriate time to apply for the best group effect.
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What I didn't see is if any of those have "business use only" restrictions.
I didn't either, but about a third of the way through the first pdf there's a couple of 'em asking for the business restriction to be removed, with statements as to why.

ETA: On the business restriction waiver, I'm referring to the letter dated 11/17/08 and it's halfway through the first pdf file, not a third as I thought before.

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A personal visit to a friend on a weekend can also quickly become a meeting with a potential client if they express some interest in one of my properties -- when someone does, I immediately try to show them a home. When showing and inspecting homes I often run into squatters. Is that work related? If so, I would have inevitably left my firearm at home because of the work restriction and the original "personal" nature of the visit to a friend.

Something as simple as a trip to the mall can quickly become an encounter with a person I have evicted -- this recently occurred....
If this fellow's work restriction was waived on these grounds, this an opening for us?
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General question: one of our employees approached me with a situation. His wife has a stalker in Georgia who in the past has come out to California (generally around the holidays) and threatened (online) to rape her and her daughters. The employee suspects from online activity that the stalker might be gearing up for another visit. The couple has had a restraining order against him in the past but it expired; they're going to look into getting another in place.

Aside from the other measures they're taking (they don't yet own a gun, for one thing, but are working on it) they're interested in the possibility of an Alameda CCW. I'm not sure they could afford the insurance requirement and/or app fees.

All that said, would it be wise/foolish for them to go through the Alameda CCW application process at this point in time? I'd hate to see them spend time/money on something so important if it's likely they'll be denied.
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They should definitely apply. The insurance is a non-issue (they should contact me if Alameda were to try and assert it), and I'm fairly certain that psych is a non-issue also.

With a TRO in place there is an exemption to 12031 they may consider.


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General question: one of our employees approached me with a situation. His wife has a stalker in Georgia who in the past has come out to California (generally around the holidays) and threatened (online) to rape her and her daughters. The employee suspects from online activity that the stalker might be gearing up for another visit. The couple has had a restraining order against him in the past but it expired; they're going to look into getting another in place.

Aside from the other measures they're taking (they don't yet own a gun, for one thing, but are working on it) they're interested in the possibility of an Alameda CCW. I'm not sure they could afford the insurance requirement and/or app fees.

All that said, would it be wise/foolish for them to go through the Alameda CCW application process at this point in time? I'd hate to see them spend time/money on something so important if it's likely they'll be denied.
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Now that the opinion in Peruta issued is there any reason for not designing a good cause statement along the lines of business and personal safety that seems to be successful in Alameda County?
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BTT, just to let everyone know that I'm back at home to help out with the volunteer effort to take place.

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Hold steady on the line. Waiting for a couple of other issues to move.
I like the sound of that.

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I like the sound of that.

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