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Old 10-14-2010, 10:10 PM
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UPDATE (2104 April 19):

It appears SMSO will accept & hold CCW apps w/mere "self-defense" as Good Cause pending finalization of Peruta. See posts 438, 441, 458, and 480.

Best to get an app in ASAP to get in line before the SO gets flooded w/thousands of applicants after the finalization.

Of course, if you have "heightened" good cause (i.e., you have reasons backed by evidence as to why you would be more likely than the average person to be attacked), you should note that and you MAY get issued a CCW regardless of the outcome in Peruta. Be sure to ask them to hold your app pending the finalization of Peruta if you won't qualify even with your elevated good cause.

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Anyone who gets denied in San Mateo Co and wants to fight it should read the following quote from my ("Paladin") post in the Monterey Co thread. (There they accept SD as GC, but push the GMC requirement.) The 14th Amendment Equal Protection applies to ALL aspects of the application process, not just GC and GMC.

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So, they say SD = GC, but then push GMC through the roof and, it appears, make your RKBA subject to your neighbors', co-workers' and friends' ratification....

If Bernal does NOT follow this same procedure with ALL CCW applicants (think political donors, "friends of the sheriff"/"posse" members, politicians, celebrities), he's open for a Guillory-type 14th A Equal Protection federal lawsuit, but for GMC rather than GC.

Hypothetically, let's say there's a world-famous film star (and director) who lives in (and was once the mayor of) Carmel-By-The-Sea, a city which, acc to CGF's 2013 survey, does not issue CCWs. We'll call him "Mr. E." Let's suppose Mr. E has a Monterey SO CCW. When it is/was time to renew, if the sheriff has the same policy for renewals that means his "background investigator" would have to go to Mr. E's neighbors (who, unlike his friends, may be hard-core antis), and "ask them if they would recommend [Mr. E] be issued a CCW permit." Not only would the same procedure have to be followed, but the same standard as to judging whether to issue or not be followed. IOW, let's say 1 of your neighbors says "Nyet!" when asked if you should get a CCW and because of that you are denied. If 1 of Mr. E's neighbors also said "No!" and yet was issued, that too is a 14th A Equal Protection violation.
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SM Co has a weird (i.e., illegal) policy of requiring all incorporated cities to accept apps, run the background checks and make a determination re. issuance, and then forward the app file to the sheriff who makes the ultimate decision on whether to issue the CCW or not. You can read about it on the SMPD's website at: http://www.cityofsanmateo.org/index.aspx?NID=665

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San Mateo County has developed a uniform application form for use throughout the various policing jurisdictions within the county. This application must be completed and submitted, along with the fee for service. The application must include a written explanation regarding the need to carry a concealed weapon.

The application will be reviewed during a personal interview with Support Services' staff at the time of submittal. Following the interview, an appointment for fingerprint submission will be obtained. An additional fee will be collected by the technician to pay for the processing of the print cards by the State of California, as part of the background investigation. This may take 6 to 8 weeks to process.

Upon determination that the issuance of a CCW permit is in order, the Chief of Police will forward a recommendation to issue the permit to the San Mateo Sheriff's Office, along with copies of the application and background investigation. The Sheriff's Office will continue the processing of the permit for issuance, and impose any clearly stated (if any) restrictions and/or condition the Chief has determined regarding the carrying of a concealed weapon. Reasonable limitations and restrictions imposed on an individual's CCW permit affect the time, place, and other restrictions under which the permittee may carry a concealed weapon.

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No info at all?????
We're still working on it. Have patience.

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We're still working on it. Have patience.

You guys are doing great. It does not surprise me the local sheriff is dragging his feet.
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You guys are doing great. It does not surprise me the local sheriff is dragging his feet.
I would say that the person who I'm dealing with is not dragging feet. Wish I can say more, but it's being worked on. Stand by, everyone.
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any word on getting a ccw in san mateo county? i've had a ccw from out of state for 5 years now, anyone know if that will help me at all
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Still nothing that I could find on their website re CCWs (http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/portal/site/sheriffs/). Went thru it and, IMO, the most likely place they would post it is under the Records Bureau.
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Still nothing that I could find on their website re CCWs (http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/portal/site/sheriffs/). Went thru it and, IMO, the most likely place they would post it is under the Records Bureau.
I'm not sure they will be the ones posting info...
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I'm not sure they will be the ones posting info...
"They," meaning the Records Bureau, or "they" meaning the San Mateo Sheriff's Office, or both?

Perhaps I should have been more clear in my post.

I went thru the Sheriff's Office's website, and could not find anything re. CCWs. From reviewing what the SO had on their different webpages, it seemed to me the most likely place to find info re CCWs in the future will be on the Records Bureau page. But that was just speculation.
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"They," meaning the Records Bureau, or "they" meaning the San Mateo Sheriff's Office, or both?

Perhaps I should have been more clear in my post.

I went thru the Sheriff's Office's website, and could not find anything re. CCWs. From reviewing what the SO had on their different webpages, it seemed to me the most likely place to find info re CCWs in the future will be on the Records Bureau page. But that was just speculation.
"Professional Standards Bureau" is the department that handles CCW at the Sheriffs office. By my experience some 4-5 years ago. Not sure now.
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What I'm saying is that the information Gene is talking about will almost assuredly NOT show up on their website. You will, however, see it on ours.

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Perhaps I should have been more clear in my post.

I went thru the Sheriff's Office's website, and could not find anything re. CCWs. From reviewing what the SO had on their different webpages, it seemed to me the most likely place to find info re CCWs in the future will be on the Records Bureau page. But that was just speculation.
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What I'm saying is that the information Gene is talking about will almost assuredly NOT show up on their website. You will, however, see it on ours.

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In about two weeks???
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"Professional Standards Bureau" is the department that handles CCW at the Sheriffs office. By my experience some 4-5 years ago. Not sure now.
They probably still do.

If you look at:
http://www.co.sanmateo.ca.us/portal/...visionsLanding

you'll see that they list the Bureau of Professional Standards under the Support Services Division and that, almost at the end of the first paragraph of text, they mention: "evaluation and certification of citizens requesting special permits". I guess that includes CCWs.

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What I'm saying is that the information Gene is talking about will almost assuredly NOT show up on their website. You will, however, see it on ours.

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I guess CGF's Sunshine Initiative won't force SOs to make available (or even mention) CCWs upon their website.

BJ/TBJ seems to have abandoned their efforts too (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=334866).

So even if Gray forces SOs to obey statutory law and CGF forces them to accept SD as GC, Joe/Josephine Average visiting SOs' websites will be kept in the dark re. CCWs. Pity.
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While we'd prefer they do, it's not required under the relevant PC statutes.

Note that Gray's extraordinary efforts are an intrinsic component of our Initiative, and he is recognized as an Initiative Coordinator also.

After we make the county "shall issue" and "according to law", some PR will likely be useful. However, the primary focus of the Initiative is to "get there", as it were.

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BJ/TBJ seems to have abandoned their efforts too (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=334866).

So even if Gray forces SOs to obey statutory law and CGF forces them to accept SD as GC, Joe/Josephine Average visiting SOs' websites will be kept in the dark re. CCWs. Pity.
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While we'd prefer they do, it's not required under the relevant PC statutes.

Note that Gray's extraordinary efforts are an intrinsic component of our Initiative, and he is recognized as an Initiative Coordinator also.

After we make the county "shall issue" and "according to law", some PR will likely be useful. However, the primary focus of the Initiative is to "get there", as it were.
"Virtual Shall Issue" is and should be our top priority. Knocking off the illegal requirements/restrictions is and should be our 2nd priority (making getting those SD GC CCWs easier and quicker to get). Getting the word out should be our 3rd priority.

My CCW Public Service Announcement (PSA) idea, getting one of the Right People on AM Talk Radio shows, interviews/editorials w/local media, and local news reports when a major urban county goes vSI should all help w/getting the word out. The NRA (via email alerts and announcements on their websites) and its members, along w/CGNers, will all help.

Eventually, after a few years of vSI w/o incident, sheriffs will relent and post info on their website.

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"Virtual Shall Issue" is and should be our top priority. Knocking off the illegal requirements/restrictions is and should be our 2nd priority (making getting those SD GC CCWs easier and quicker to get). Getting the word out should be our 3rd priority.

My CCW Public Service Announcement (PSA) idea, getting one of the Right People on AM Talk Radio shows, interviews/editorials w/local media, and local news reports when a major urban county goes vSI should all help w/getting the word out. The NRA (via email alerts and announcements on their websites) and its members, along w/CGNers, will all help.

Eventually, after a few years of vSI w/o incident, sheriffs will relent and post info on their website.

Thanks for all your & Gray's efforts!
When the time is right, and there is appropriate precaution, we will let people know. I want it to where if someone types in "San Mateo CCW" this forum or the San Mateo carry initiative page comes up on top.

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I managed to get a look at the PowerPoint the SMCSO uses for CCW classes.

Talk about loaded with non-law, FUD and half-truths. This county is going to be a doozy, I'll wager.
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I managed to get a look at the PowerPoint the SMCSO uses for CCW classes.

Talk about loaded with non-law, FUD and half-truths. This county is going to be a doozy, I'll wager.
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I managed to get a look at the PowerPoint the SMCSO uses for CCW classes.

Talk about loaded with non-law, FUD and half-truths. This county is going to be a doozy, I'll wager.
*cough* I've seen the actual powerpoint used and found it mildly useful and not very FUD. Please email me as I'd love to compare notes to see if yours was "old" or if I missed something when I "reviewed" it.

Let me say this for those who are waiting; anyone who has any sort of good cause beyond simply self defense should feel free to apply and should expect to be successful.

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*cough* I've seen the actual powerpoint used and found it mildly useful and not very FUD. Please email me as I'd love to compare notes to see if yours was "old" or if I missed something when I "reviewed" it.

Let me say this for those who are waiting; anyone who has any sort of good cause beyond simply self defense should feel free to apply and should expect to be successful.

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After reading through the guidelines i still see stuff like,"gotta go to the local chief first, ect. ect. I think i'll wait till i see some movement. I don't think i have a "good cause" a have a "great need" as to why i need a ccw. My apprehension comes from not knowing if the Sheriff thinks the same way i do!

For the record, my clock was for fun! I will wait till you guys give the actual green light on this. If not i will go to my other residence and get one which is pretty close to shall issue. I don't mind waiting.
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After reading through the guidelines i still see stuff like,"gotta go to the local chief first, ect. ect. I think i'll wait till i see some movement. I don't think i have a "good cause" a have a "great need" as to why i need a ccw. My apprehension comes from not knowing if the Sheriff thinks the same way i do!
Ignore that. The sheriff eliminated the "you have to go first to the city pd" stuff months ago.
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Let me say this for those who are waiting; anyone who has any sort of good cause beyond simply self defense should feel free to apply and should expect to be successful.

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Can you elaborate Gene, I am a State Registered Professional in private practice and was denied because I was told (unfortunately not in writing) bad areas (ie:Richmond, Oakland, SF Western Addition) that I sometimes perform my profession is outside San Mateo's jurisdiction. I was shocked of their ignorance of the PC.
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Can you elaborate Gene, I am a State Registered Professional in private practice and was denied because I was told (unfortunately not in writing) bad areas (ie:Richmond, Oakland, SF Western Addition) that I sometimes perform my profession is outside San Mateo's jurisdiction. I was shocked of their ignorance of the PC.
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Is the million dollar insurance policy requirement from the penal code or fiat deceleration of the Sheriff?
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