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Old 11-27-2010, 1:00 AM
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Default Comparison: Real VLTOR EMOD versus Replica EMOD

A little background: I came across this replica stock when it was sold to me on a complete lower as a genuine VLTOR Emod a few years ago. I noticed subtle differences between real Emods and the replica stock when I compared it to online pictures. Recently I asked to trade some items for a VLTOR Emod. I noticed that a lot of people offerred replica emods, believing these were real Emods. I purchased two real Emods and decided to make a thread showing the differences between a replica and real Emod. Unlike the magpul replicas which do not use magpul logos on them, these replica Emods look similar (at first glance) and mimic the VLTOR Emod look using VLTOR tags and logos.


Left: Replica (FDE). Right two: Emod (FDE and Black). Notice the color difference


The top two are Real Emods. Real Emods will have a "1" Stamped on the door, and "3" or "E" stamped inside the compartment.



The rear butt stock of the real Emod (Right) has a metal plate on the buttom. The replica is blacked out.


The bottom of the stock pad is cut differently. You can see the pad meets the rounded pad perfectly, whereas the replica does not.

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The top picture are the real Emods. The finishing marks between the lever are more crude on the real Emods.


Not the best picture, but the replica has a more crude QD made with a different metal.


Perhaps the biggest difference between a real Emod and replica is the nut holding he adjustment lever in place. The real Emod has a roll pin holding the nut in place. If you ever come across a fake Emod, this is the easiest way to identify it.

As for function, the real Emods will slide smoother, adjust easier, and lock up tighter than the replica. The replica's lever is clumsy, has poor lock up, and adjustment is a hassle. The lock nut also tends to loosen, causing the lever to fall off..

I hope this helps. I believe most of these, especially the last one will carry over to other VLTOR stocks.
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The top two are the real Emods. The finishing marks between the lever are more crude on the real Emods.
In the above, do you mean to say that the finish marks are more crude on the fake Emod?

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Excellent post.



In the above, do you mean to say that the finish marks are more crude on the fake Emod?

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Thanks.

No, the replica is smoothed out, but the emod is not, it has a small notch that is not flat (I have seen this on Magpul stocks like the ACS also).
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Thank you! Great job...
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Looks like the strike plate on the replica was made from plastic and not metal like a real one.

Also, Magpul "PTS" is not "replica" Magpul. It's REAL Magpul, just made for the training and airsoft market. It's the real deal but made with less expensive plastics and parts.

There are licensed replicas out there of all kinds of real equipment that are made by airsoft companies, and are usually of a certain quality standard so that the original licensing company doesn't get a bad reputation. Then there are non-licensed knockoffs and counterfeits, usually of questionable quality.

Do you know if your clone stock was a licensed copy, or an unlicensed? Just curious.
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Another question: Does the replica EMOD fit a milspec stock? Because the EMOD ONLY comes in milspec.

If you have an EMOD that fits a commercial tube, you would know instantly that it's a clone or a counterfeit
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Looks like the strike plate on the replica was made from plastic and not metal like a real one.

Also, Magpul "PTS" is not "replica" Magpul. It's REAL Magpul, just made for the training and airsoft market. It's the real deal but made with less expensive plastics and parts.

There are licensed replicas out there of all kinds of real equipment that are made by airsoft companies, and are usually of a certain quality standard so that the original licensing company doesn't get a bad reputation. Then there are non-licensed knockoffs and counterfeits, usually of questionable quality.

Do you know if your clone stock was a licensed copy, or an unlicensed? Just curious.

Thanks for the clarification. I will amend my post. As for the replica, I believe it is an "apex tactical" replica. The company doesn't claim it to be licensed. You can find it here:

http://www.apextac.com/catalog/item/6540844/6738941.htm

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Another question: Does the replica EMOD fit a milspec stock? Because the EMOD ONLY comes in milspec.

If you have an EMOD that fits a commercial tube, you would know instantly that it's a clone or a counterfeit
The replica Emod fits milspec diameter tubes.
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Excellent thread! I do have one of these so I will definitely have to check it out now.
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Another question: Does the replica EMOD fit a milspec stock? Because the EMOD ONLY comes in milspec.

If you have an EMOD that fits a commercial tube, you would know instantly that it's a clone or a counterfeit
Genuine ones are available in commercial and milspec. A certain letter or number in the storage compartment denotes what size it is.

http://www.vltor.com/EMOD-New.html

Unless this is a replica website...jk
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Emods come in both sizes. I've sold each before, and I assure you they were the genuine article.
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Genuine ones are available in commercial and milspec. A certain letter or number in the storage compartment denotes what size it is.
Ahh, thanks for the clarification. It was always my inderstanding that they only came in milspec.
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For a while, VLTOR only came in milspec. I believe they started making commercial stocks a few years ago. From my knowledge, the modstocks (the original vltor stocks) only came in milspec
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Logo on the compartment door is a dead give away too
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Logo on the compartment door is a dead give away too
I was going to note that also, 5th pic down.
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Wow the differences are subtle... thank you for the review!
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Logo on the compartment door is a dead give away too
Actually, if you look at the first pic, you'll see that none of them have the VLTOR logo on that side of the compartment. The side with the hinge has the VLTOR logo. On the 5th pic down, you are seeing the hinge side of the real ones and the non-hinge side of the fake one (the rifle is flipped on its side.) Can't tell if the fake one actually has the markings on the hinge side, but I'm guessing it does.

And to the OP, thanks for the detailed post - nice!
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