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Old 10-02-2010, 1:41 AM
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Moderators please put my original post back up it's only fitting especially after reading leelaw's
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Moderators please put my original post back up it's only fitting especially after reading leelaw's
No, I don't want to have to send a warning to a second member tonight... unless you're going to be as funny as the OP.
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No warnings please I'm happy here.
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and by the way leelaw... most of us calgunners didn't agree to the rule changing you just made the change. I agreed to the rules made prior to april 2010!!!!
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^^^^ uhmmmm ok guy with 7 posts.
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Note to Head Janitor and Moderators: Please be advised that we would like to thank you for providing this site and all of the services that it offers. We, the indians, have organized a coup and we are taking over the reservation.
Let's get this 7 poster in the waaahmbulance stat!
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That was some FUNNY stuff right there.

I know it's funny when it makes me laugh loud enough to wake the dog, the kid and the wife pre-5 AM on a weekend.

I just wish stupid would hurt. More.
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Too funny. What have I done here.
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Ya know...

If you REALLY want first amendment rights enforced on a private venue you could arrange government financing for it.

Finagle a multi-million dollar federal grant and flame on.
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and by the way leelaw... most of us calgunners didn't agree to the rule changing you just made the change. I agreed to the rules made prior to april 2010!!!!
I hate to burst your bubble but, profanity has been banned here since I became a member in 2002.
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I have nothing but contempt for those that use lawyers at every turn and obsess over suing or being sued.
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I've warned both moderators that if they continue to take members rights away they will suffer the lawsuit consequences!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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A forum has little to do with free speech. The reality is that it is concidered the same as other print type such as books and newspapers. The owner or his apointed Mods are the editors and can delete your posts or entire content as they see fit. However neither they or any of the members can have bacon and eggs for breakfast on thursdays.
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You like apples?

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This is a private forum.
I own it, I set the rules, I allow access as I see fit.
You do NOT have a first Amendment right in a private venue.
Civics 101.

How do like them apples??!!!!!!
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Old 10-02-2010, 6:32 AM
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This guy needs a life!
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and by the way leelaw... most of us calgunners didn't agree to the rule changing you just made the change. I agreed to the rules made prior to april 2010!!!!
...so, is it ok if "...most of us calgunners..." come over to your house and do and say whatever we please? Drink your beer, eat your food, say what we want, and do whatever we want to do?

I mean, after all, who are you to limit our 1st amendment rights in your house?

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mods, My apologies for calling him a troll. That was uncouth, especially in red, and I am sorry. very immature
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and by the way leelaw... most of us calgunners didn't agree to the rule changing you just made the change. I agreed to the rules made prior to april 2010!!!!
Sue me.
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Sue me.
Nope! My dad is bigger than your dad and he will kick your butt!

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Sue me.
I'm gonna sue Kestryll or anyone else who uses the phrase.

"Teachable Moment."

You have all been warned and I am forwarding this to my team of Attorneys!
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Think motive guys. A lot of people who do these kind of things are basically shysters looking for a quick buck by attempting to find flaws/loop holes through the system. I've seen this a lot in workers comp and disability a holes where they contort the truth to make some cash and they devote themselves to this cause. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was unemployed and sitting in front of his puter screen in his chonies with a stack of phone books on his desk all turned to the "abogados" pages.
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Old 10-02-2010, 8:35 AM
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Another thing to add to this is I personally am grateful for this site because I've used it to buy guns at great prices, have made money as well and not to mention the countless hours of fun and entertainment it has provided to me. so I'm glad Kess decided to take over and yes it is his site so I respect his decisions including his bans and even then, he's pretty reasonable about it. i'm sure most of us here will agree.
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As I've already explained to 69mach1 and to leelaw:

As a company or anything in general for that matter, can't take away a members first amendment... As a forum and marketplace, you understandingly allow people to post and view what is known as there right to freedom of speech.

Example: Facebook can't tell people not to cuss, but instead the can take a single letter out of that one or more word(s) and replace it with a star sign.

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law "respecting an establishment of religion", impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

the first: I explained a factual base a a sellers product and get a warning!

Second time: I only said that I like it and bump... which is minimal... to say the least...

I've warned both moderators that if they continue to take members rights away they will suffer the lawsuit consequences!

69mach1's answer: You do not have a first amendment right to free speech on this private site. follow the rules, or good bye.

Leelaw's answer: Upon creation of your account, you agreed to abide by the terms of service of membership at Calguns.net. These terms include following all rules of the forums, including the Marketplace forum rules, as specified in the links which I have provided you twice now, and which are also posted at the top of each Marketplace forum for your convenience.

You will follow the rules, or your account will be limited. I look forward to you reviewing this with your attorney, who will tell you that you have no case whatsoever for a Constitutional Amendment rights violation.

I hope your attorney doesn't charge you too much for a remedial high school civics lesson.

Cheers,
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Leelaw also added: Frivolous lawsuits may incur expensive (for you) countersuits. You may wish to discuss that with your attorney as well.
As to this conversation, we are done here, and so is your access.

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I've warned both moderators that if they continue to take members rights away they will suffer the lawsuit consequences!
That right there, is one of the funniest things I have ever read on this message board!!
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This is a private forum.

You do NOT have a first Amendment right in a private venue.
Civics 101.

Your 1st Amendment right to free speech is a guarantee against GOVERNMENT restriction of specific classes of speech and/or expression.

Your 1st Amendment right to free speech does NOT afford you any protection in private venues such as someone's home or business.
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The mods on this website make up draconian laws and they must be stopped. We should BAN together and fight the injustice.

Wait....nevermind.
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The mods on this website make up draconian laws and they must be stopped. We should BAN together and fight the injustice.

Wait....nevermind.
Especially that Fascist Kestryll...




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Especially that Fascist Kestryll...




Don't even get me started on that fun vacuum.

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While there is no legal or constitutional requirement that Kestryll allow free speech on the forum, and there are good legal reasons to censor some comments (keeps Kestryll from being targeted by lawsuits that would fail, but still be expensive, prevents Kestryll from being charged with distributing pornography - in the case of some images or videos, etc.), it is generally recognized that the forum is most valuable to users if it allows more free expression of ideas and debate over disagreements.
It is up to Kestryll (and the mods he appoints) to find the balance between a forum that has enough diversity of POVs that it is interesting and informative to participate in, and a site that is so rude and full of crap that people aren't comfortable participating in it.

While nobody has a "right" to membership on the forum, it is probably best if the forum is open to as many people as possible, so that it generates good discussions. This means that Kestryll needs to try to be as permissive as possible in granting and maintaining the privileges of members. This may mean that those who post things that are deemed unworthy have posts edited or removed, or that they receive temporary bans. While Kestryll has every right to ban users from the forum, this must be done prudently if the forum is to remain vibrant and useful.

While the 1A may be a guidepost and an ideal for site owners, it is not a law that applies to them, and they get to make their own decisions about their own property.

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Another thing to add to this is I personally am grateful for this site because I've used it to buy guns at great prices, have made money as well.
BS. we all know that Calguns has no great deals on guns and every buyer is a lowballer or a flake.
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Tell me what you think!!!

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Wow, this guy has 7 posts but he knows how most of us feel?

And he's ready to step up and lead the revolution?

What a man!
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Let me guess, you're a fan of Alex Jones?
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T******H YOU!

Edit: I guess you can't say that on here. SON OF A L********V. (or that) oh well. I'll deal w it.
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