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Old 02-02-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Concealed weapon permit in CA ??

I KNOW that people get permits to carry a concealed weapon in CA, but how the hell do they do it? Do you need a good reason (eg: gun shop owner, bodyguard, etc)? or can you just get one if you qualify with your weapon and pay for the paperwork? Does what county/city you live in make a huge difference?
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Old 02-02-2007, 10:27 PM
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Depends on where you live. Kern County? Yes. LA County? No Way.


Check out: http://www.packing.org/state/california/

That will give you a better idea based on county.
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:41 PM
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Its all about location.
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Humboldt County was no sweat.
But then, as I told the Detective who interviewed me, "I'm no tactikool, ninja, specops gunguy.". He smiled at that one.

I'd say it seems primarily about location since we can assume the average person seeking a permit has a clean background and lives a law-abiding life.
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No one gets them in Sacramento county
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Old 02-03-2007, 3:10 PM
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Default Recent posts on Packing.org with city and county CCW

http://www.packing.org/community/general/listview/20504

2005 California PD and SO agency CCW "Standard -2 Year" issue totals.

-NONE of the totals below represent "Judicial", "Reserve" or "Custodial" permits-

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AGENCY NAME (Sheriff-SO; Police-PD) and permit total in 2005. Totals for 2006 permits posted late Summer 2007.
If an PD or SO name isn't listed here, they issued -0- permits.


Alameda SO -134
Alameda PD -1
Fremont PD -2
Piedmont PD -3
Pleasanton PD -3
San Leandro PD -1
Alpine SO -17
Amador SO -728
Jackson PD -3
Sutter Creek -11
Butte SO -1632
Chico PD -16
Gridley PD -5
Calaveras SO -510
Angeles Camp PD -35
Colusa SO -85
Williams PD -6
Contra Costa SO - 161
Antioch PD -2
Brentwood PD -2
Clayton PD -3
Concord PD -1
El Cerrito PD -1
Richmond PD -2
Moraga PD -2
Del Norte SO -162
El Dorado SO -1183
Fresno SO - 2251
Clovis PD -22
Firebaugh PD -3
Fowler PD -5
Fresno PD -179
Kingsburg PD -2
Reedley PD -2
Sanger PD -10
Selma PD -1
Glenn SO -280
Orland PD -1
Humboldt SO -1014
Eureka PD -5
Fortuna PD -1
Imperial SO -325
Inyo SO -194
Bishop PD -1
Kern SO -2997
Arvin PD - 8
Bakersfield PD -486
Delano PD -2
Ridgecrest PD -24
Shafter PD -11
Taft PD -30
California City PD - 6
Kings SO -216
Hanford PD -37
Lemoore PD -10
Lake SO -218
Lakeport PD -4
Clearlake PD -3
Lassen SO -258
Los Angeles SO -336
Alhambra PD -1
Arcadia PD -3
Bell PD -1
Beverly Hills PD -3
Burbank PD -7
Claremont PD -1
Culver City PD -148
Downey PD -1
El Monte PD -21
Glendale PD -1
Glendora PD -2
Hawthorne PD -1
Hermosa Beach PD -1
Huntington Park PD -1
Inglewood PD -3
La Verne PD -1
Long Beach PD -1
Los Angeles PD -14
MOnrovia PD -1
Monterey Park PD -2
Palos Verdes PD -11
Pasadena PD -2
Redondo Beach PD -7
San Marino PD -1
Santa Monica -4
Whittier PD -1
Madera SO -1029
Marin SO -30
Novato PD -1
San Rafael PD -2
Sausalito PD -2
Tiburon PD -1
Mariposa SO -341
Mendocino SO -1257
Ukiah PD -14
Merced SO -588
Atwater PD -3
Dos Palos PD -7
Gustine PD -1
Livingston PD -2
Los Banos PD -6
Merced PD -7
Modoc SO -242
Mono SO -50
Mammoth Lakes PD -11
Monterey SO -65
Del Ray Oaks PD -5
Gonzales PD -1
Greenfield PD -1
Pacific Grove PD -2
Salinas PD -1
Soledad PD -3
Marina PD -2
Napa SO -316
Napa PD -132
Saint Helena PD -1
Nevada SO -379
Grass Valley PD -2
Nevada City PD -4
Truckee PD -24
Orange SO -973
Anaheim PD -1
Costa Mesa PD -1
Laguna Beach PD -1
Newport Beach PD -5
Santa Ana PD -1
Placer SO -1010
Plumas SO -378
Riverside SO -432
Banning PD -2
Desert Hot Springs PD -5
Indio PD -2
Palm Springs PD -32
Riverside PD -16
Corona PD -20
Cathedral City PD -6
Sacramento SO -379
Folsom PD -1
Galt PD -10
San Bernardino SO -2036
So San Berdo Big Bear -1
Barstow PD -7
Colton PD -2
Ontario PD -6
Redlands PD -18
Rialto PD -1
San Bernardino PD -9
Upland PD -13
Adelanto PD -1
San Diego So -1289
El Cajon PD -2
San Diego PD -2
San Francisco PD -5
San Joaquin SO -304
Manteca PD -22
Ripon PD -8
Stockton PD -72
San Luis Obispo SO -315
Arroyo Grande PD -1
Morro Bay PD -4
Paso Robles PD -6
Pismo Beach PD -1
San Mateo SO - 190
Daly City PD -1
Santa Barbara SO -111
Guadalupe PD -1
Santa Maria PD -5
Santa Clara SO -121
Gilroy PD -1
Los Gatos PD -1
Milpitas PD -1
Santa Clara PD -1
Santa Cruz SO -30
Scott Valley PD -1
Shasta SO -2235
Anderson PD -9
Redding PD -10
Sierra SO -110
Siskiyou SO -298
Mount Shasta PD -21
Tulelake PD -3
Weed PD -6
Yreka PD -31
Solano SO -40
Benicia PD -2
Dixon PD -5
Fairfield PD 6
Vallejo PD -7
Sonoma SO -116
Cotati PD -3
Healdsburg PD -1
Rohnert PD -1
Santa Rosa PD -5
Petaluma PD -1
Stanislaus SO -456
Ceres PD -8
Modesto PD -49
Newman PD -2
Oakdale PD -2
Turlock PD -17
Waterford PD -1
Sutter SO -592
Tehama SO -692
Corning PD -13
Red Bluff PD -27
Trinity SO -368
Tulare SO -2470
Exeter PD -1
Lindsay PD -1
Dinuba PD -1
Visalia PD -1
Tuolumne SO -793
Sonora PD -3
Ventura SO -646
Oxnard PD -1
Santa Paula PD -1
Simi Valley PD -17
Yolo SO -243
Davis PD -9
Woodland PD -3
Yuba SO -332
Marysville PD -2
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Old 02-03-2007, 3:16 PM
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Wow, glad I live in Tuolumne County, I should have no issue at all getting one!

Tuolumne SO -793
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Old 02-03-2007, 11:14 PM
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There are two factors that determine how likely you are to get a CCW:

1) What county you live in. Some counties in California are pretty much shall-issue. I know lots of folks in Madera county who merely stated "I go hunting a lot" as a reason for a CCW and it was issued.

2) How well you know the Sheriff and how much money/time you put into his election. In counties where law enforcement is not issuing CCWs on any kind of regular basis it is still possible to obtain one by becomming close friends with the Sheriff and his family and contributing time and funding to his election. This was proved by numerous individuals, most notably celebrities in Los Angeles County and a group of donors to the Sheriff's campaign also in Los Angeles County.

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Old 02-04-2007, 6:27 AM
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Kern has a new Sheriff, is he still a shall issue Sheriff?
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Do any of y'all have direct experience with getting a CCW (or not!) in Riverside county?
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(noobish question)

I live in Visalia, which is in Tulare county. Given the statistics, I'd rather go through the Tulare SO than Visalia PD. Do I have that option?
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For those interested in obtaining a CCW in California, it is possible. The requirements vary from county to county, unfortunately. There is a group of people working diligently on this effort at californiaccw.org as mentioned earlier. There is an amazingly large number of regular people that have CCWs, and the number is growing. The site accepts all who have the same goal of CCW, but requests that the discussions not wander into assault weapons, political bashings, etc. Come and lurk for a while, then introduce yourself in your particular county's forum. Someone will be along shortly to answer questions you may have.
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For those interested in obtaining a CCW in California, it is possible.
Why, yes it is thank you!

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There is an amazingly large number of regular people that have CCWs, and the number is growing.
I am regular? okay, by comparison on this subject I guess that I would be considered "normal".

As said by others: "location, location, location".
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Haha...Santa Clara PD is 1.

Me = screwed
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I'm Amazed to see that Alameda SO issued 134 seeing how the a large part of the County falls under Don Perata.
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I was at the Moreno Valley PD station the other day getting a Live Scan done. I asked about a CCW and they looked at me like I had committed a crime, then asked "Why would you need a CCW?". I replied, "I go to the range frequently, carrying many high powered semi automatic firearms, and ammunition to boot. If I just get jacked somewhere on the way, how am I going to protect those weapons?". They looked like the world had fallen on them and agreed that it might be something good.

To be honest, I don't think they would have even thought of that scenario and it came as a surprise to them the justification of it. So, with that in mind, I'm going to apply when my COE gets here. Maybe it's something you can use on why you need a CCW.

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Haha...Santa Clara PD is 1.

Me = screwed
Yeah, but:

Santa Clara SO -121

Looks like you'd be better off going to the Sherriff.
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Awesome justification, I'm seriously going to use this word for word

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I was at the Moreno Valley PD station the other day getting a Live Scan done. I asked about a CCW and they looked at me like I had committed a crime, then asked "Why would you need a CCW?". I replied, "I go to the range frequently, carrying many high powered semi automatic firearms, and ammunition to boot. If I just get jacked somewhere on the way, how am I going to protect those weapons?". They looked like the world had fallen on them and agreed that it might be something good.

To be honest, I don't think they would have even thought of that scenario and it came as a surprise to them the justification of it. So, with that in mind, I'm going to apply when my COE gets here. Maybe it's something you can use on why you need a CCW.

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The statute tasks the police agency in each city or county with issuance. In many places, the local PD, which is otherwise authorized to issue CCW, has made an agreement to have the Sheriff take over that responsibility. This is why you see Sheriffs issuing permits, or not, to folks who live in cities in that county.

For example, San Diego Sheriff issues CCW's for the county, but some cities apparently do too, i.e. El Cajon, to name one. If you live in a city, you go to the local police department. If they have delegated that to the Sheriff, you go to him/her. In San Diego County, a number of cities have contracted with the SO to provide police services anyway, so it's all the same. If you live in the unincorporated areas, you go to the Sheriff.

Like a great many things in our fine state, it's all done in a manner calculated to result in maximum confusion and uncertainty.
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Awesome justification, I'm seriously going to use this word for word
You know it's funny, none of the cops I've talked to about this even considered the scenario I mentioned. Chris from Bright Spot gave me the idea really, as he used to go to people's houses to sell firearms, therefore, a CCW makes sense. Same thing here, no way to protect weapons should hostiility occur.

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Anyone know if you can apply for a permit in the county you are employed in, and not solely the one you reside in?
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SgtBulldog, there is a non-resident work permit you can apply for, but that's a law which is on the books but never used. You will never get it, I promise you.

This is the best resource of all for info on this subject: http://californiaccw.org . All your questions can be answered there.
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Darn it.

Thanks for the info, SG.

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Don't give up. You can get issued in any county in California. Some will be easier than others but all are possible. You need information and you need to have the commitment to work on it.
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I'll chime in here; I have a CCW issued by the Santa Clara SO's that is recognized by SFPD; my process for getting it is NOT the recommended method, but that's a whole 'nother story.

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Looks like you'd be better off going to the Sheriff.
Back in the mid 90's I managed the old National Shooting Club (now Reed's Indoor Range). One of the perks was that we were the local NFA restricted weapons dealer for Law Enforcement. We had post 86 dealer samples from HK (MP5s, SD3s and PDWs), Steyr (select fire AUG SBRs), Bushmaster (M16, M4s) and FN (P90s).



All cool and all very fun. But here's the rub. I applied for a CCW with the Santa Clara SO's. I figured, I'm a stand up guy, my dad was a Deputy with the SO's for 32 years, I'm working with LEOs on a daily basis, manage a gun store, and here's the kicker, I'm transporting freaking machine guns, in my own vehicle, all over the valley to various PDs. Seemed like a no-brainer, right?

Nope. I was told that my "justification was insufficient" to issue a CCW permit.

Real live machine guns.

In my own car.

Insufficient justification.

It was then that I realized that, there would NEVER be sufficient justification for the Sheriff, in all her wisdom, to issue anyone a permit.

And here we are. So good luck with Laurie; it can be done, but sadly, it's unlikely. In my esteem, the permits that have been issued by the SO's are ones that were issued many Sheriff's ago and have just been re-approved through the years.
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Thats when you get a rental home in a neighboring county with a better sheriff. Apply for a CCW there and once you have it, its good anywhere in the state.

Thats the good thing about living in Kern County. You get a CCW and then you can legally carry in LA and other liberal areas. A ccw holder gets harrassed but there is little they can do.
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CCW holders does not get harrassed. Once the officer or deputy knows your CCW holder and it's good... they tend to trust you more since you've been through all the background checks.
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CCW holders does not get harrassed. Once the officer or deputy knows your CCW holder and it's good... they tend to trust you more since you've been through all the background checks.

This is not true. I have seen it a few times. In jurisdictions where guns are evil and concealed weapons are the devil they do not appreciate conservative counties issuing CCW permits that are valid in their jurisdiction. They will cite you for anything and everything they possibly can.
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I guess it all depends on the city/county you are in when stopped and the circumstances. For most cops (that I talked to)... they are gun friendly and have no problems with CCW... like I said... they tend to trust you more ONCE they confirmed your permit is real and valid. Plus, they do not know if you "know someone" to get that permit and don't want to p1ss off anyone up top. Cops (or anyone) are more nervous around a person with a gun... but less if they know you are a good guy with a CCW.

I have a CCW from OC... have not been stopped yet with it. But from my research and talks with cops... as long as you pass the attitude test... they will not harass you. Treat them with respect and you will be treated the same... with or without a CCW.
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I guess it all depends on the city/county you are in when stopped and the circumstances. For most cops (that I talked to)... they are gun friendly and have no problems with CCW... like I said... they tend to trust you more ONCE they confirmed your permit is real and valid. Plus, they do not know if you "know someone" to get that permit and don't want to p1ss off anyone up top. Cops (or anyone) are more nervous around a person with a gun... but less if they know you are a good guy with a CCW.

I have a CCW from OC... have not been stopped yet with it. But from my research and talks with cops... as long as you pass the attitude test... they will not harass you. Treat them with respect and you will be treated the same... with or without a CCW.
Try carrying your weapon and your permit into Sacramento or San Francisco and see what happens....

Shoot, some jurisdictions are trying to take the guns away from COPS.
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Every single day.
See my location. Never had a single hassle; in my experience, Apeman is correct. Once the street cops know who you are, they tend to relax and the trust level goes way up.
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If you live in a county/city where it is difficult/"impossible" to get a CCW, contact the people at www.californiaconcealedcarry.com

If you have a legitimate need, not just a want, for a CCW, "Billy Jack" over there just might be able to help you.

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Shoot, some jurisdictions are trying to take the guns away from COPS.
Now that's fair. If all citizens are disarmed, that should include all the police too. After all, they are ordinary citizens, and not military, right? They also should not be allowed to have anything the regular citizen cannot have (full-auto, 11+ round mags, 50BMG, open or concealed carry, etc.).
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I think asking for permission to exercise a right is crap.

I really cant blame someone for wanting a CCW permit, but I believe anyone that does so is complicit in the Governments violation of our rights.
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This is not true. I have seen it a few times. In jurisdictions where guns are evil and concealed weapons are the devil they do not appreciate conservative counties issuing CCW permits that are valid in their jurisdiction. They will cite you for anything and everything they possibly can.
I've heard plenty of horror stories of people getting harassed by cops. However, besides traffic stops, why should the cops know you carry? Concealed means concealed.
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Now that's fair. If all citizens are disarmed, that should include all the police too. After all, they are ordinary citizens, and not military, right? They also should not be allowed to have anything the regular citizen cannot have (full-auto, 11+ round mags, 50BMG, open or concealed carry, etc.).
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in your argument, i'd say disarm the military too if that's the case. they are ordinary citizens like police officers.

i don't know what jurisdictions are taking guns away from cops. must not be in CA.
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...Try carrying your weapon and your permit into Sacramento or San Francisco and see what happens....
Been there; done that; no problems.
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I've heard plenty of horror stories of people getting harassed by cops. However, besides traffic stops, why should the cops know you carry? Concealed means concealed.
Because in O.C. (I don't know about other counties), one of the rules imposed by the S.O. is you must inform any LEO who contacts you of your CCW status.
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so if you got a CCW in mendocino county it would be good in all other CA counties?
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