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Old 01-19-2007, 10:43 AM
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:57 AM
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Can we get this thread back on topic please?

Where's the pic of the SA Pro?
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The original Springfield Armory actually developed and built rifles. Did you know the M1903 and Garand were developed and produced at Springfield Armory? If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck..... This sounds like a company to me. In the late 60's Springfield closed it's doors in Springfield Mass only to reopen ~5 years later in Illinois. Some dude bought the name and began producing M14 rifles. This dude had a right to use that name hence the reason you see "Springfield since 1794"

I guess it is ok for other companies to file chapter 11, restructure, and sometimes close it's door with just a NAME only to reopen years later. I am sure Tobasco Sauce and the Colonels chicken is not the same either. But I guess it is not ok for Springfield to do this.

I guess your problem is you want the label to say "Springfield since 1974" instead of "Springfield since 1794"... well you always can write to the Gov't to complain hahahaha. Springfield Armory Inc, has the right to use the NAME. Marketing gimmick? Maybe, but what of anything on this earth is not a marketing gimmick?

You can try to buy the NAME Marine Corp LLC, and set up your own company, I just want to say good luck with that. I don't think the Gov't will let you use the motto "Marine Corp since 1775" for your company... but anyways good luck with that. Why do you want to use that name anyways? You trying to raise a private mercenary naval infantry battalion?
Springfield Armory in Illinois is NOT a restructured Chapter 11 company. As was stated it has ABSOLUTLEY NO RELATIONSHIP to the Government's Springfield Armory except that they bought the rights to use the name only. Nothing else was transferred. The "real" Springfield Armory is a museum today.

The company in Illinois bought the name so they could market M-1's with a familiar name. In the 80's the sons, the Resse brothers, began producing mil-spec 1911's under the SA name also. Except for the Custom Shop guns, they are all imported guns made by and assembled by Imbel in Brazil. Only the TRP's get some assembly in the US. The old NM serial numbered Mil-specs were also assembled here in the US.

ATF looks at Springfield as an importing company and doesn't include their production in the stats for US manufactured weapons except those from the Custom Shop. These can be found in the ATF listings under David Resse of Geneseo rather than the Springfield Custom Shop for some reason.
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Getting back to the pics....
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You go right ahead and keep on believing Springfield Armory Inc. has a direct lineage to the US Governments' Springfield Arsenal. We all know otherwise and laugh at you. HA HA.

And it's Marine Corps numbnuts, not Marine Corp.

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Ummm.. should I post a pic of a real Marine CorpS 1911?
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Cartman stop being such an instigator.

You're wrong.

Now, where's the pic of the SA pro? I know one of you has one.
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Here's a pic of a freaking SA Pro. Now can we please keep this thread on topic?

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Thank you Black Talon. Very, very nice.

I sorta figured it would be you.

edit: is that really a 3XX serial number? When did you purchase it?
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Scootergmc, how did you get that gun and where can I find one?
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:19 PM
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I can give you the hook up if you have about 5 grand. Mine was a gift.
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That's an interesting piece, since that's not an actual DET 1 pistol, and yet is a Kimber with DET 1 serial #... which they were supposedly not ever supposed to sell on the civilian market? Their civilian version was supposed to be a very short run of MCP-1 serial prefixed pistols, and then was followed by the "Warrior" and "Desert Warrior."

Now, clearly you have it, so don't go getting all defensive, I'm simply saying all the USMC SOCOM guys I know, and all the sources I read when they were originally putting this pistol out a few years back, stated that the DET 1 pistols were further modified by the Quantico armorers after they were received from Kimber (Dawson rail, Ed brown safety, Wilson mags, and coyote gunner's grips rather than the Kimber factory grips). That's the only reason I say yours isn't an actual DET 1 pistol. But I could well be mistaken, in any case, divulging your hook up or not, how did you come by it, and what would you say it is. Either way its a very nice looking pistol.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:05 PM
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I won't get defensive. Trust me.. Doubters exist everywhere since it is "impossible" to get this gun on the civilian market. But you are mistaken. This is the actual pistol exactly as manufactured for the DET. The guns were shipped directly from Kimber to Dawson where the rails and Sure Fire IMPLs were added (with assistance from Mark Larue). The Ed Brown GS and Simonich Gunner Grips (now made by Strider- I'm having a set made) were added by the DET, along with the Gemtech Lanyard (and the Safariland Holster, FWIW).

At the request of the DET to Kimber, a limited number of pistols were manufactured and offered for personal sale to members of the DET. Hence my gift. It's the actual Det-1 pistol- Exactly as produced by Kimber. Is it the actual pistol in "DET-1 carry form"---, no. Not yet. I will not mount the accessories. I will leave it as is with the accessories unattached but complementing it.

FWIW, the flag in the background was carried on an OIF DET mission.

But hey, this is the internet... believe what you want!!

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Jeezus Hotel Kee-rist.

I think I just scorched my shorts.

Nice job Scooter!!!
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Here's mine:
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Atoning for my previous off-topic sins on this thread.


Top-bottom: Springer loaded, Springer Mil-Spec, Springer Ultra-Compact Loaded. Right: Colt M1991 Government

Nice grips Thomye!! I have some Punishers on my TLE
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Default rorschach don't get mad.

rorschach don't get mad.

Here are the better pics of the one and only Springfield 1911 TRP Light Armory Kote. Greatest production 1911 ever ever ever.




Here is my M1903 Sprinfield. Notice how it says "Springfield Armory" just like my TRP =)




Here is the new 2006 Springfield Armory kid with WWI Grandpa Springfield Armory 1903. I hope I don't piss off rorschach by having this pic. I know how he does not like 1974+ Springfields be associated with pre-1968 Springfields =)
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rorschach don't get mad.

Here are the better pics of the one and only Springfield 1911 TRP Light Armory Kote. Greatest production 1911 ever ever ever.

Is this currently on the CA roster of approved firearms? Without the part number, I can't tell.
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Is this currently on the CA roster of approved firearms? Without the part number, I can't tell.
Yes it is approved. Springfield 1911 TRP.
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Old 01-20-2007, 3:37 PM
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Are you guys, besides a shooter, a photographer? Some of the pictures in here really turned out good. It brings out the true beauty of 1911's
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Yes it is approved. Springfield 1911 TRP.
Darn! now I have to start saving for one!
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edit: is that really a 3XX serial number? When did you purchase it?
Yep CRG3xx. It was one of the early ones with the Wilson mags. I got it new about 5 years ago, and I sold it about a year ago. It was actually my second Pro.
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Nah Scooter I wasn't doubting the authenticity of the pistol or your having it, I was just curious how you came by it and I wasn't aware they had made extras for personal sale to DET 1 members as you said. Anyway, like I said, very nice pistol, and thanks for sharing it's background with us.

On a sidenote, curse you USMC SOCOM guys for thinking your DET 1 is the only "DET" in existence.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:16 AM
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Nah Scooter I wasn't doubting the authenticity of the pistol or your having it, I was just curious how you came by it and I wasn't aware they had made extras for personal sale to DET 1 members as you said. Anyway, like I said, very nice pistol, and thanks for sharing it's background with us.

On a sidenote, curse you USMC SOCOM guys for thinking your DET 1 is the only "DET" in existence.
No prob!! Let me know if you have any other questions....

And the USMC Det doesn't exist anymore. It was disbanded. Politics.
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Sorry about the crappy pic... Still learning my way around my Canon PowerShot SD600.

Springfield TRP:

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Nice grips.
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Give ya' 25 bucks for that bunch of parts.

(You can even keep the grips.)
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Give ya' 25 bucks for that bunch of parts.

(You can even keep the grips.)
Looks to have seen some use, but it is nonetheless a Baer... best 1911 on the market in my personal opinion.

(I'll give you $30)
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Did someone pull a Jet Li in Lethal Weapon type move on you Black Majik?
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Did someone pull a Jet Li in Lethal Weapon type move on you Black Majik?
I've had so many silly people come in and ask me if that's possible... it was funny the first time, after that it got old. One guy actually said he really wanted a Beretta but was afraid to buy one because someone might take it apart if he had to use it...


And so as to not be a derailer~


SA Mil-spec SS -- His name is Gram.
C&S 4.5# hammer & trigger kit
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Spyderco Adventura & Galco leather


I'm very happy with it as is, but the mainspring housing is probably getting switched out in the near future, my only other thought is a low-pro rear sight.

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Yep CRG3xx. It was one of the early ones with the Wilson mags. I got it new about 5 years ago, and I sold it about a year ago. It was actually my second Pro.

I'm its current caretaker but I don't intend to ever part with it. I've put a little over 4000 rounds through it since I got it and its been purring along just fine. I'm gonna shoot it until SA Custom can't fix it no more. I'll probably go broke trying to do it though. This pic was taken a few months after I got it and it still looks about the same except for more wear on the barrel hood and tiny wear marks from normal use and holstering. The Black T is one tough finish. I use CMC Powermags and I upgraded the Wilson mags Black_Talon gave me with the gun with Tripps followers and springs.

I've long forgotten how much I paid for it. One of the best premium 1911's you can buy off the shelf. It may not be as pretty as a Baer, Brown, or Nighthawk but the quality is there where it counts and I like the all businesslike look of the thing (I own a wonderful Baer TRS also) If you have the means go for it.
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Colt MK IV Series 70 Gold Cup National Match.



A lovely thing of beauty.
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beautiful gun picked one up just like it
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My contribution. Wish I could figure out how to post the pictures to display rather than just the link............



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A lovely thing of beauty.
I got one myself. I think the S70GC is my favorite of the herd.
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A lovely thing of beauty.

NOW THAT'S A PERFECT 10 TO ME.
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