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Old 03-07-2010, 10:17 PM
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Default AR 15 kits.

Me and my dad collect WW2 rifles but we were thinking about getting some modern. We were thinking about getting some AR 15's but we want different ones. I want a retro one (looks like Vietnam era M16) and he wants like a modern looking one. Where is the best place to buy a complete kit? Do all AR 15's shoot .223. I don't no anything about them haha. Are they easy to customize like change out certain parts. lol.

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Old 03-07-2010, 10:29 PM
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i think your question is a bit vague but here goes:

no, not all AR's shoot .223. they can shoot an interesting array of rounds from 22lr to .308 win to .50 beuwolf (and a few others in between)

certain parts are sold in kit form, i do not know of anyone selling a complete rifle in kit form. you can amass all the parts into your own personalized kit, and then assemble yourself or have it done professionally. (yes they are very customizable)

one common option is to purchase the lower reciever (the part considered to be the gun), get yourself a lower reciever parts kit, buttstock assembly, magazine locking device and 10round mag, and assemble it yourself per these instructions :http://www.calguns.net/OLL/assembly.html
all this is fairly simple and can be done with a modest tool collection. if you do all that you have one half of the gun. the cheaper half!

then you need an upper receiver group. for many it is more practical to buy these as a completed unit. they require specialized tools to assemble and may be slightly intimidating to the novice. it is also usually cheaper to buy a completed upper.

there is probably someone selling complete rifles that would fit the bill of a 70's era nostalgic AR, and there are hoards of people selling complete modern style AR's.

i know i've missed lots of stuff... the search button is your friend.

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Old 03-07-2010, 10:32 PM
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Thanks, well that answered alot of questions and I did search but could not find anything about where to get a whole kit, well I want to build it myself. Sounds cool to say I built it lol. haha.

But thank you!
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:45 PM
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forgot to mention:

the first thing you should do is read THIS: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

by building it yourself you run the risk of inadvertently assembling it to an illegal configuration, thus rendering you a lowlife scumbag felon.
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No offense, but how do you get to 584 posts here on Calguns and not know about the AR style platform yet? Just curious, maybe you only use the C&R part of the forum as you stated with your WWII collecting? Anyways, welcome to the "club" If you're interested, a few vendors sell the "kits" minus the stripped lower, as previously stated. You're retro-build sounds like fun. Oh and Kerplow was right on. Number one thing, follow the law, and learn the flowchart as a study-guide!
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generly,
A1 is your Vietnam rifle
A2 is your classic rifle
a3/m4 are your modern rifles (carbines)


and there are about a bazillion variants, most are chambered in 5.56 (commonly called .223)
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You can run a .458 SOCOM on the 5.56 lower and use the same mags.
To run a .308 don't you need to use an AR 10 lower?
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You can run a .458 SOCOM on the 5.56 lower and use the same mags.
To run a .308 don't you need to use an AR 10 lower?
yes. i should have been more specific.
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Look at Tacticalcity.com
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yes. i should have been more specific.
Eh, I have a lot to learn too. I went to the gun show today and saw the size difference in the AR 10 vs. AR 15. It's pretty damn obvious. They also didn't have a single AK kit. There were a few complete rifles but no parts at all.

Are they starting to make .17 HMR uppers?
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No offense, but how do you get to 584 posts here on Calguns and not know about the AR style platform yet? Just curious, maybe you only use the C&R part of the forum as you stated with your WWII collecting? Anyways, welcome to the "club" If you're interested, a few vendors sell the "kits" minus the stripped lower, as previously stated. You're retro-build sounds like fun. Oh and Kerplow was right on. Number one thing, follow the law, and learn the flowchart as a study-guide!

Most of my post are in the C&R but thought I'd try and get some newer. The newest gun I have besides my .22's is a 1964 Marlin, .30-30 Lever Action. lol.

But thanks for all the information. I will read up on it.
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Ok I no this thread went dead but I have one more question. I did search on google and didn't find what I wanted to no. Also searched on here and same thing. (sorry if I repeat this question)

But can I have a list of all the AR-15 parts I will need. I was thinking of buying it part by part until I have all of it to complete it. Thanks.
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I am about done building my first AR, a very traditional one as well, but if I were to do it again I would just pick up a lower from a local gun store and buy this kit:

http://www.riflegear.com/p-774-rifle...rifle-kit.aspx

Riflegear is a great place to shop from, and based in CA so theyre worth supporting and its quick shipping.
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If you're just looking for a plinker go Del-Ton minus the Bolt Carrier Group, then get a BCG from Bravo Company.
Should run fine and good value as well.

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http://www.del-ton.com/

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-B...0auto%20mp.htm

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If you do get a different BCG, I suggest you headspace it, just in case
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+1 on checking the headspacing, Cheap insurance. My GS charged me $5
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