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Old 12-18-2009, 10:27 AM
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Question As a female, do you find when you go to the range...

Do you find that when you go to a range guys look at you like, "wtf is she doing here?!"? Have you ever had anything said or done to you by guys at the range just because you're a female shooter?

What sort of gender based treatment have you experienced?
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From a male point of view, male shooters are enthusiastic about female shooters. I think the "wtf is she doing here?!", is more like "dude, thats hot that she shoots"


The point is female shooters are openly welcome. Us male AND female shooters need as many shooters as we can get. The change of scenery is nice too
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I'm a male shooter and I don't treat girls shooters any different then male shooters, Actually I've never treated a girl different then my guys friends. I'm there at the range to shoot my guns. Honestly don't really matter to me who's there. Girls or guys. Girls have been shooting guns for a long time so I don't see why some guys get all excited when a girl goes shooting. I mean I can't seem to get my g/f to go with me, but it doesn't bug me, but I bug her about it haha. Just stating my opinion. I mean who ever is at the range is there to shoot there guns.

An example, I went to the shooting range here in Bako, and there was a girl shooting on the bench next to me, and I liked how her rifle looked, It was a Winchester model 70, just like the one I have, I went to talk to her about it, but I didn't realize until then it was a girl and she asked me if I was surprised or shocked that a girl was shooting and I said no, then she told me, "your a first". I told her "no offense but the rifle caught my attention, didn't even notice your were female" so we talked about how she got the rifle and mine then went back to shooting.
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I've had a mixture of both in the past. At a public range, I suppose the guys who don't know me see me as an oddity. I'm sure they wonder if I know what I'm doing and are waiting for something stupid to happen -- on my part. I get that while I'm out fishing too, so it's nothing new.

BUT, as soon as they see it's not plinking, the attitudes begin to change to a more positive note. Naturally, there will always be one ignorant person in the group who will choose to behave like a jerk, so I've also learned to grow a thick skin. Some men are insecure and are just crabby.

It's ok... I'm out there to practice and don't expect everyone to be my buddy. As long as they're civil, it's all good.

Now, at matches, I don't feel like a freak at the circus. The guys are supportive, good-humored, and very social. Besides, I supply all the donuts, so they have to be nice to me or I'll cut them off!
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I know that I tend to see other shooters in terms of experience/skill rather than gender. I am happy to offer input or advice (be they male or female), but only if it is obvious that they would welcome it. If I'm not sure, I keep to myself because I find it rude to assert that "I know more you and must correct what you are doing wrong."

Safety is the only exception, though. If they're being unsafe, I'll stop them immediately.

I have heard from female shooters that many hate it when a male shooter not only feels the need to "correct" her technique, but also thinks it appropriate to touch her without permission while doing it.
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I went to talk to her about it, but I didn't realize until then it was a girl and she asked me if I was surprised or shocked that a girl was shooting got the rifle and mine then went back to shooting.
You need your eyes checked. I'm sorry, I would never miss if a babe was shooting next to me. The first thing I do when I shoot is look at the caliber (no pun) of people around me. I don't want to spend my afternoon next to some soldier of fortune wacko, or gansta's doing a gun check for tonight's drive by entertainment. I also look at what guns they are shooting and how they handle them (male or female). There have be more than a few times where I have never fired a shot and left due to the type of people and the way they were handling guns.

For sure I would notice a woman, mainly since you just don't see it too often.

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From a male point of view, male shooters are enthusiastic about female shooters. I think the "wtf is she doing here?!", is more like "dude, thats hot that she shoots"


The point is female shooters are openly welcome. Us male AND female shooters need as many shooters as we can get. The change of scenery is nice too


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You need your eyes checked. I'm sorry, I would never miss if a babe was shooting next to me. The first thing I do when I shoot is look at the caliber (no pun) of people around me. I don't want to spend my afternoon next to some soldier of fortune wacko, or gansta's doing a gun check for tonight's drive by entertainment. I also look at what guns they are shooting and how they handle them (male or female). There have be more than a few times where I have never fired a shot and left due to the type of people and the way they were handling guns.

For sure I would notice a woman, mainly since you just don't see it too often.


Well I usually go to the benches off to the sides where nobody is at, and I don't go stare at who's shooting, I'm there to shoot my guns not check out the people using them. I don't care who's next to me usually, but thats just me. Also don't really care what there shooting, I just happened to notice the rifle she was using, and she had a hat on and short hair, so it was a bit difficult to tell it was a woman.
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Hell, I'll be honest. I treat female shooters differently because, they usually know how to shoot better than most guys. If I'm at a match, chances are that most of the female shooters will outshoot me. I even had one do it using my rifle and ammo with only a few hours to get used to the gun! OK, I shot better groups but, she shot a better score. Yea, women shooters scare me because, they (as a whole) are capable of dominating all types of shooting venues.
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The "Wtf is she doing here" look is more like "damn" why cant my chick be in to guns like her, sigh" lol
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the only girls i say "wtf is she doing here?" to are the ones sitting in the car complaining about the noise, or sitting on the bench doing their fingernails. Oh i've seen it plenty too!! they usually come with D-bag guys who cover just about everyone at the range with their muzzle at one point or another, and will shoot when you're down a "cleared" range.

Any other lady who happens to be engaged in shooting.....that's just hot! I'll admit i get a little....when my wife unloads a mag ...women seem to grasp the technical aspect of shooting too since it's objective based. do this, then that, and this will be the result. That's something i found most women tend to like! (it also helps if you give them a pink gun or a shiny one j/k)
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You'll only get discouragement by idiots who have something to prove. Just outshoot them and they'll shut their pie hole real quick. I hate it when guys put down any woman who is out there at the range for any reason be it not wanting to shoot a 300 win mag because it hurts or just not grouping well because its her first time out there. I have seen guys shut down pretty quick by women because they have nothing to prove a lot of the time and when they shoot well, the instigator just walks away with his tail between his legs.
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One day at the range this past summer an off-duty cop gave me some of his departmental ammo (hollow points too!). He even let me fire one of his pistols. Didn't feel disrespected by his attention at all.

On another occasion another shooter (who I'd met late last year and hadn't seen since) found out I'd brought the right ammo but the wrong pistol to the range. So he handed me his 1911 and said, Here. Shoot this.

Two Sundays ago another shooter gave me a bunch of his .45 ammo. He'd reloaded them himself and the ammo was of two different grains. (Just moments before he'd disassembled my S&W 1911 to determine if something was amiss.) Then we went over to the action pistols range (my first time there!), where he gave me a free firearms lesson and then let me shoot some of his ammo (that he had in his bag). I felt real special that day, if you know what I mean.

This past year I shot a lot of pistols and rifles belonging to guys I didn't know. For sure, their friendliness, generosity and firearms knowledge just bowled me over. Men like these guys truly demonstrate the firearms enthusiast ideal and spirit. If only I could be as generous and sharing as they.
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I think it's great to see the women folk at the range, you'd never get a negative remark from me.
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From a male point of view, male shooters are enthusiastic about female shooters. I think the "wtf is she doing here?!", is more like "dude, thats hot that she shoots"


The point is female shooters are openly welcome. Us male AND female shooters need as many shooters as we can get. The change of scenery is nice too

ditto that, we are just checking you out!
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This past year I shot a lot of pistols and rifles belonging to guys I didn't know. For sure, their friendliness, generosity and firearms knowledge just bowled me over. Men like these guys truly demonstrate the firearms enthusiast ideal and spirit. If only I could be as generous and sharing as they.
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My girlfriend says YES!

one of the more annoying things that happened at the range.

RSO: what are we going to about her shooting?

Me: what do you mean?

RSO: she doesn't have control of the gun

Me: how does she not have control of the gun?

RSO: The muzzle goes too high after recoil.

I'm starting to get pissed now

Me: you mean as high as the guy shooting the mag down the line?

RSO: Well no but...

Me: all her shots are in the 10 ring how does she not have control?

RSO: Well I... um... well

Then he walks away. No RSO has ever said anything about her shooting other than to make fun of me b/c shes a better shot.
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My girlfriend says YES!

one of the more annoying things that happened at the range.

RSO: what are we going to about her shooting?

Me: what do you mean?

RSO: she doesn't have control of the gun

Me: how does she not have control of the gun?

RSO: The muzzle goes too high after recoil.

I'm starting to get pissed now

Me: you mean as high as the guy shooting the mag down the line?

RSO: Well no but...

Me: all her shots are in the 10 ring how does she not have control?

RSO: Well I... um... well

Then he walks away. No RSO has ever said anything about her shooting other than to make fun of me b/c shes a better shot.

What a *****. I bet he was just jealous of her ability! So, out the range and, if you can, the RO. We should know where not to go.
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I don't want to say the range b/c all the other RSOs are really nice and helpful.
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bleh, male, female, trans-g, who cares as long as they are into the sport?
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When I take my lady she usually doesn't get treated any different but shes usually with me. Although last time we went there were a bunch of inbred hillbillies being perverts, I was at the truck getting my staple gun and she said one of the guys made a comment to her about her a**. I came back she told me and I told the guy to get his eyes of my ladies A** and to keep em on his target. After we left she said they made her feel really uncomfortable and she doesn't want to return to that range. I told her "well you do have a nice A**" Haha but I explained to her that most the guys I shoot with or are serious about the sport are respectable men. I mean you can't help but stare at a beautiful woman sometimes but eyef****** her and making comments just ruined her range experience. I don't like that range anyways they run you're Drivers License everytime and put it in a damn computer and from the times I have been there It doesn't seem like that range attracts a good crowd.
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Feel the same way. Don't matter to me who's shooting, as long as there enjoying it and having fun and not complaining. lol.
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Do you find that when you go to a range guys look at you like, "wtf is she doing here?!"? Have you ever had anything said or done to you by guys at the range just because you're a female shooter?

What sort of gender based treatment have you experienced?
If anything, I'm glad to see female shooters at the range.
Most of the time, They have a huge grin too!
Its good to know that not all of them think guns are evil and such.


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Never said that, when I see a woman at the range. But I do get that "wtf is he doing here?!" feeling when I go into Joanne's(a sewing/craft store). Feel's like I just invaded a country.

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From a male point of view, male shooters are enthusiastic about female shooters. I think the "wtf is she doing here?!", is more like "dude, thats hot that she shoots"


The point is female shooters are openly welcome. Us male AND female shooters need as many shooters as we can get. The change of scenery is nice too
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Funny you mention that, I always feel very out of place in Victoria Secret, and can't wait to leave.

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lol, Well, I guess I sort of got my answer. It's good to know that it seems that guys are willing to be open to females entering this arena. It's a little disheartening that there aren't more on Calguns, however!

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I love the fact my lady enjoys shooting and hunting it just means more time we can spend together doing something WE BOTH like. It truly is a hard thing to find in a companion. While it is not her favorite hobby but every once and awhile shes glad to hit the range with me.
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Well, of course there's going to be some typical "guy behavior" of checking out the female types... and I do not doubt for one minute that the reverse isn't also true... no matter where you go.

That being said, I'm going to be initially more concerned with the handling skills of someone I'm shooting with or next to than anything else. Why? Simple. I don't want to get shot...

When I do go to the range, I'm more than happy to "share my sport". I might have my Garand or my Higgins .22 or my 1911 or my Glock 23 or... whatever else with me. If someone wants to put a couple rounds downrange, I'll usually be more than happy to let them! The reason is that perhaps whatever they're shooting isn't right for them or whatever I'm shooting is different enough that it'll widen their experience base or perhaps remember what it was like to shoot that kind of gun, or whatever!

Male or Female... shooting is a fun sport! Now if I could only get my wife to agree...
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I have noticed that the older guys who typically go to the outdoor ranges are a bit friendlier then the younger guys I typically see in the indoor ranges. They will normally come over and offer assitance or pointers (I always allow them to do so and say thank you) they are also very excited for me to try their guns most of the time and love to get positive feedback.

They just stare at what I am shooting but don't really say anything and take up way more bench space then they should. They don't move there stuff over or anything for new shooters and force me to put my stuff on a bench far away. Thats more of a lack of home training then a male/ female thing.
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The "Wtf is she doing here" look is more like "damn" why cant my chick be in to guns like her, sigh" lol
You said it!
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I think ooh thats cool, but then again none of them are my age and I don't find any of them attractive.
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As a girl, and a new shooter. I always feel like a complete idiot. Any advice or encouragement from any more experienced shooter is welcome.

As long it's not blatantly obnoxious. ;-)
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As a girl, and a new shooter. I always feel like a complete idiot. Any advice or encouragement from any more experienced shooter is welcome.

As long it's not blatantly obnoxious. ;-)
Like the previous posts, the best thing to do is be safe. Don't feel like an idiot because we all had to start somewhere.

But yes, some people come on a little strong even when they're trying to be helpful. I draw the line when a guy demands that I shoot a particular gun just because he says so. Boy, does he have an education coming!
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:56 AM
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I'm in the moo-moo/beldame class of women shooters; range masters and male shooters see me coming and think, "Hey, I wish MY grandma was into shotguns!" (No one has ever been discourteous to me, and usually there are other -much younger- women shooting when I go to the range. They may hear/put up with all sorts of guff I haven't had to deal with for years.)
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As a girl, and a new shooter. I always feel like a complete idiot. Any advice or encouragement from any more experienced shooter is welcome.

As long it's not blatantly obnoxious. ;-)
What part of Cali are you from? lol, I'm hoping to find someone near Sac who could go shooting with me! It seems there are no other women nearby.

And by the way, I know EXACTLY what you mean about feeling like an idiot. Over time it's gotten easier, but at first I felt like I had NO clue what I was doing! lol, mainly because I didn't! Thank goodness for good instructors! (9mmepiphany is a godsend!)
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I take my wife shooting occasionally and now my 15 year-old daughter. I think they both get treated very well. Maybe the fact they're with me somehow changes things.
I love to ask the guys who bring daughters or even younger girlfriends what types of guns the younger ladies prefer. I like to let my daughter try different things, as long as she enjoys it.
I never offer advice to anyone unless they have first asked me a question. I than try to respond 'kindly', not with attitude or ego. I usually joke by telling them free advice is usually worth what you pay for it ;-).
I truly hope you ladies all feel very welcome at any range. I want to see as many of you as possible learning to shoot well.
Thanks for letting me interject.
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