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Old 12-01-2009, 9:32 PM
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Exclamation If you get in trouble with the law for your guns - PLEASE contact CGF

Folks, if you get arrested or cited for your LEGAL weapons, PLEASE CONTACT CGF.

There have been several recent cases where people have not contacted us, and/or have decided to rely on local counsel or public defenders.

If the case is appropriate, we can work WITH your local counsel or public defender to make sure that you get the best representation possible and that your counsel is educated as to your gun rights. We do this at no charge as part of our mission as a non-profit.

In certain cases, we will even have our own attorneys represent you.

If you are concerned about attorney/client confidences being breached, you may contact ME, as I am a licensed attorney and everything you say to me will be kept in confidence.

Remember, we can't help you unless you reach out to us.

To contact us, PM any of the board members such as Kestryll, Ivanimal, Bwiese, Hoffmang, etc. . . OR PM me.

ETA: You may also email the CGF Hotline at hotline@calgunsfoundation.org -- or use the confidential form at http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/hotline.


PLEASE NOTE THAT THE BUSINESS CARDS THAT BOXBRO MADE ARE AWESOME - HERE'S A LINK TO THEM:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/a...3&d=1261674969

It is very important that there continue to be NO SUCCESSFUL OLL PROSECUTIONS IN CALIFORNIA.

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Old 12-01-2009, 9:37 PM
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Good to know Oak. Thank you.
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Old 12-01-2009, 9:42 PM
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No problem! Make sure all your shooting friends know this too!!!



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Bravo CGF, will make a Christmas donation next pay day.
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I hope it never comes down to it. But if it happens, I will be contacting you. Thank you!
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+1, thanks to the CGF and the lawyers that make it all happen!
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Thanks Oak. I hope I never have to use the number or the email but props for putting it out there.

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Awesome. Man, we need like a business card or something we can stick in our wallets.
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Should this be a sticky or is it posted somewhere else?
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Wow, This is such a great thing to do. I respect and appreciate this very much as does everyone else here!! This Calguns is the best thing since sliced bread! Way to go stand-up guys here. Now we need to get more people to donate to this great organization to help out these guys that are willing to put all the time/sweat to build this site into what it has become and more.
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I am in big trouble now! I cant stop buying ammo, and I have a terrible obsession with needing to own more firearms then anyone I know!!! Help???
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Old 12-02-2009, 12:30 AM
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Awesome. Man, we need like a business card or something we can stick in our wallets.
+1 to this idea
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This thread should be stickied, methinks...
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Thanks Oaklander. It's great to know that CGF is out there for these cases.
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Default Is this California only?

I realize Calguns is a California organization, but we have a few people from other states.

Perhaps it would be good to know how many people are from other states because everntually we will have to network across the country anyway.

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Please remember that freedom is not free! We spend a lot of money on aggressive lawyering in CA and Federal Courts.

Please use the link in my signature to donate to The Calguns Foundation.

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you guys are awesome

thanks for the info.
I already put you in my blackberry with all your info and i've never even met you
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Please remember that freedom is not free! We spend a lot of money on aggressive lawyering in CA and Federal Courts.

Please use the link in my signature to donate to The Calguns Foundation.

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that's why I set up automatic donations from work
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Awesome, put it in the phone.
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Folks,
Here's another famous Bill Wiese "bulleted list" (I don't do pie charts like Oaklander does)...
  • We often CAN do SOMETHING, even A LOT
  • .... but we have to KNOW about it ASAP ! !
  • Even if you already have an attorney we likely can help him if he's not a gun lawyer
  • CGF's Oaklander (lawyer) or his investigator can get details of your case confidentially and decide if or how things proceed, level of support, etc.
  • Even if the case is not perfectly 'clean', we may be able to offer some personal assistance to defense atty even if CGF cannot allocate legal/financial resources due to "color"
  • If you know of a 'situation', don't try to get deep info or have your buddy dig himself a deeper hole - put your buddy in contact with us here.
  • WE CAN'T FIGHT IT IF WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
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This is good information.

Contact info of all CGF atty's should be kept on the refrigerator or in a spot easily accessible to family etc should something happen to anyone here.

I have a lawyer friend who I would normally call first, but after reading this, I would make sure he had the numbers of the people here.

Should we make a contact list in this thread? Should it also contain the advertising lawyers here: Michel and Associates, Davis and Associates?
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good info.
lets see I have oaks number on speed dial, hoffmangs number on speed dial, ivans number on speed dial. Ill let y'all know if I have any problems.
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Oaklander,
Can the CGF create a "business card" we can download, print, and add to our wallets, hang on the fridge for emergencies?
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Excellent info and thanks for the generous offer. You are now in my speed dial along with my regular lawyer. Now working on committing your number to memory along with hers.
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Good idea!

I know Calguns.net is working on a luggage tag - let me see if we can add some CGF contact info.

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Thanks for the heads up.
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putting your info on my safe right under the sticker that tells the Police to have the proper warrent to open and search.

And Thanks again for being here for us.
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Oak, ping me when you have a second so we can get some info rolling (hotline?).
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Sounds like a potentially decent use for Google Voice.

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Until Oak comes up with something, which will surely be better, here's a completely amateur business card.

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Added the phone number to the contacts list on my cel. under the premis that if I have it I won't need it.
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Saved info into my Blackberry. Very good to have JIC
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Adding info to my cell.

Thanks for everything you do, guys.

Anyone know of any of these CG members that got nailed for OLLs and didn't say anything? Seems like they're ripe for Oaklander's trout of reality...
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Any call to the CGF main line comes to me 24x7 - 650-275-1015. If someone doesn't pick up, leave a voicemail and a call back number or email and someone will get back in touch with you shortly.

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It is very important that there continue to be NO SUCCESSFUL OLL PROSECUTIONS IN CALIFORNIA.
Amen to this, especially when legal CA gun owners go out of their way to follow the laws and still have to deal with ignorance law enforcement agencies.
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thanks guys. thread sent to my SO also just in case they won't give me my cell phone to call cgf. imagine that... SO asks me why didn't you call me first. well, duh.. I needed a lawyer. LOL

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Numbers saved. Hope I never have to use 'em.
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It would be great for CGF to develop a safe magnet warning against unauthorized entry, more impressive than a law office and maybe a way to make some money also.
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Since this is a "sticky" - I added the CGF number to the first post - please call BOTH numbers.
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