[DaveFJ80]

EDIT: Got the SuperNova (pics below). Thanks for the info.
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I'm looking to purchase a shotgun and I was really looking into the Mossy 500 and the Remy 870, but decided that I could spend a little more and get something that I really liked... either the 590A1 or the Benelli SuperNova Tactical. The way I looked at it was by the time I add a pistol grip 'rifle style' stock, mag extension, and GRS, I'd end up paying about the same (maybe a difference of $20 or $40, but that's negligible when spending around $500 anyways).

My friend and I were talking and he really thinks the Benelli is in a class of its own. Would you consider this the case and if so why exactly? I've held both guns and shot the Mossy 500 before. I like the feel of both guns with the pistol grip stock, but the Benelli feels a bit 'smoother' for me. The safety buttons and locations on either gun works for me (I didn't care for the 870 safety).


Which is a better buy for quality, reliability, and even holding its value in the long run? Anyone have specific preferences between the 2 shotguns? Right now I'm leaning towards the SuperNova and picking up a Nordic +2 mag extension. But the 590A1 holding 1 extra shell and only needing a pistol grip stock and GRS does look really tempting.



Here's the ad for the 590A1 at Turner's. They carry the SuperNova tactical w/pistol grip for $499 but said they'd knock off $20 (giving me a free shotgun bag) due to the "HD Shotgun sale" ad they were having.

[Crusader]

The SuperNova is the best pump-action shotgun I have ever used. It is also a very well balanced gun and the ghost ring sights are really handy. I would go with the SuperNova. Besides, they can be purchased for around $500-$550 now anyways.

[parish33]

i own a m590A1 mossberg its an ausome gun to me its way better than other shotgun manufactures out there personaly i think its a well made shotgun has a metal trigger guard most have plastic, a durable parkerized finish a heavy walled barrel and what i love the most about the mossberg is that it comes with a (10) year warrenty that is clearly states in the owners manual so that to me is fantastic!!

[grammaton76]

I personally like the M590A1. Nothing negative to say about the Supernova, just a matter of preference. The newer ones are coming with rifle-style sights, and that's a nice upgrade vs the bead sight on mine.

[M1A Rifleman]

I'm happy with the A1, but I prefer the Ghost Ring site models for slugs.

[IrishPirate]

The 500 and 590 are the best out there. You can get a 500 with 18.5" and 28" barrels for under 300 at big 5. Then check out ebay for tactical packages that fit 500 and 590s. actually, here's the link. for the best package i found.

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOSSBERG-500-590...item5ad4733a28

the mossbergs are the most customizable shotguns out there which also means that the prices are going to be competative....not sure how much benneli offers but it's a solid gun. I say mossberg all the way though.

[dansgold]

It really gets down to what is driving your decision. I think most people would agree that the Benelli is an overall superior piece of engineering ... but that's not the whole story.

Given that the Remington 870 and Mossberg 500/590 are famous for incredible reliability under very harsh use conditions, what drives the Benelli decision? (I am a Mossberg fan myself ... for whatever that's worth)

Benellis always seems to have a smoother action ... they FEEL great. I've noticed that people seems to constantly working on them to preserve that feel, whether or not its necessary for the sake of function I cannot say. By all accounts the Super Nova series is excellent in all respects.

One Benelli advantage is that it is capable of using everything from 2.75" to 3.5" shells, while the 870 and 590 use only 2.75" and 3" shells. If you have a need for 3.5" shells (can't imagine why in a tactical/HD shotgun) ... well, there you go.

[trickyvic]

For me it's Remington or Benelli. I can't get used to the safety location of the Mossbergs. Can't go wrong with either of the three.

[hd0642]

i woulnt say the nova is in a class of its own but i would rate it right there with the 870. both of these actions are really smooth - MUCH SMOOTHER THAN THE 5XX MOSSBERGS. this being said i am in day 2 of the 10 day wait on a nova tact from big 5 on sale this week for 359, i also own a win 1300.

[grammaton76]

I like that the safety on the Mossberg is in a place where you pretty much can't accidentally trip it.

I never use the safety on my guns. My safety is no round in chamber unless I'm ready to fire. (And no, I have a well publicised dislike of Glocks, so this isn't Glockism coming out in me!)

[tootall79]

Just run to Big 5 buy the Benelli Nova Tactical for $349 and have fun!

[Wolfhound9k]

I like my Benelli Super Nova very much, and feel that for the price (if you eventually want a pistol grip stock and GRS) it's actually a better value than a tricked out 870 or Mossberg because you can get those options from the factory for around $419 if your local gun shop is reasonable.

The only gripes that I have about the Super Nova is that you cannot mount a SureFire forend (currently not produced) and the length of pull on the stock is fairly long for my shorter arms. The receiver is also fatter than on a 870 or a Mossberg, so most breechlocks or Lifejacket systems won't fit.

I've been waiting a while now for accessories to start popping up on the market for this particular model pump shotgun, but honestly I don't think it's gonna happen other than a few accessories from TacStar or Mesa Tactical...

[eccvets]

if you like the Benelli better, spend the extra cash and get the Benelli over the 590 or the 870. IDK why its so hard for people to choose a gun. Its quite easy, just buy what ever you like better and feels better to you. Who gives a crap what anyone else thinks (their opinoins are often very wrong)!

[M9Man]

Since they are both fantastic shotguns I think this choice will come down to which one you like the controls on more and which one turns you on more to look at. I have the supernova and I freaking sleep with it I love that shotgun .

[DaveFJ80]

Thanks for the input. I went by Turners today and checked out both the 590A1 and the SuperNova tactical. After holding both and seeing how they feel, and how well they were built (craftsmanship), I ended up buying the SuperNova tactical w/pistol grip today. Got it for $499 with free bag ($479 after the cost of the bag). Besides the priceing being pretty good for me, I really liked the look, the feel, and the quality of the Benelli. The only thing that I didn't like was that it didn't hold as many shells, but nothing a mag extension won't fix. Don't get me wrong, the Mossberg is still an awesome gun. But choosing between the 2 on the spot, the Benelli just worked a lot better for me. If I have more funds later, I want to pick up a cheaper 500 and play around with that.

[M9Man]

Ooohrah! she will do you proud . I think the thing I like the most is how natural the presentation of the sights is. You can close your eyes bring the gun up and the sights will be aligned with your eyes when you open them. If you want any upgrades like side saddles and mag extensions for that gun check out http://www.mesatactical.com/ If your not getting a mag extension right away be sure to remove your mag plug. you might need a circle clip tool to compress the sprung retainer inside the mag tube for that though. Is it just me or does that cylindrical notch in forend seem a good place to mount a light?

[randy]

The Benelli is a higher quality shotgun than the Mossberg.

[pTa]

you mention it/ yet its not an option?

870!!! or Benelli M1S90

[pigiron]

I'm late to the party, I was going to suggest getting the Vang Comp 590A1.

[M9Man]

Can you shoot slugs through a vang comp barrel though?

[BroncoBob]

Oh Benneli is by far the better shotgun, here is my desert camo Super Nova with a few of my 45's. The ghost ring sights are awesome. I installed a rail should I decide to put a scope on it.

[pigiron]

Originally Posted by M9Man

Can you shoot slugs through a vang comp barrel though?

Most certainly. Spot on @ 50 yards. Hold about 5" high @ 100 yards.

[ZombieKiller]

590 A1 hands down.....its uglier and scarier too...

[krzgoat]

Originally Posted by hd0642

i woulnt say the nova is in a class of its own but i would rate it right there with the 870. both of these actions are really smooth - MUCH SMOOTHER THAN THE 5XX MOSSBERGS. this being said i am in day 2 of the 10 day wait on a nova tact from big 5 on sale this week for 359, i also own a win 1300.

I've got the same two guns. Winchester 1300 was my first shotgun I purchased years ago to start hunting with my step dad. About a year and a half ago I picked up my Nova Tact onsale for 299 at a local gun show. Love both shotguns.

I haven't shot an 870 myself but have shot plenty of Mossbergs and I prefer my Nova.

[DaveFJ80]

I just saw today that Big 5 has the 590 (not A1) 9-shot 'security' shotgun on sale for $359 here: http://big5sportinggoods.shoplocal.c...id=-2088705927

Is there really a big difference between 590 and 590A1? What about 590 and 500? (I only ask because a couple of weeks ago Big 5 had the same 9-shot 'security' 500 for sale at $259). I almost wished I waited on my purchased and checked this gun out. But I'm still happy with purchasing the Benelli SuperNova.

[grammaton76]

Not sure but I think the major difference between M590 and M590A1 is that the M590's trigger guard is plastic, and the M590A1's trigger guard is steel.

[k3nnex]

My friend is about to pick up one of these bad boys

[Boomer...]

Originally Posted by grammaton76

Not sure but I think the major difference between M590 and M590A1 is that the M590's trigger guard is plastic, and the M590A1's trigger guard is steel.

Lifted from Mossberg's website, partial description of 590A1 Special Purpose series reads:
Specifications that include a heavy-walled parkerized barrel, metal trigger guard assembly, metal safety button, and an upgraded magazine tube that can easily be opened for cleaning and is readily adaptable for a magazine extension.

I chose a 590A1 Mariner at least in part for these reasons as a built tough shotgun that I'll never wear out. It sports a full factory stock which I have no interest in changing, although I did just buy an IST Biothane sling to mount on the included sling studs. YMMV...

[DaveFJ80]

Picked up my SuperNova today after being in 'gun jail' for the past 10 days. Threw on the LimbSaver slip-on pad (the precision pad doesn't work on the tactical Benelli stocks) and put on the Nordic Components +2 magazine extension. Gave it a good cleaning and then went to the range to put 40 shells through it. The gun fires like a champ and it's extemely smooth and easy to use. Much better than the Mossberg 500 I shot a month ago, and the GRS put my slugs right on target. It was very easy to hit dead on at a stationary target at 50 yards. My shoulder feels good as I don't feel a thing (the LimbSaver pad is extremely soft, where as the factory Benelli pad is as hard as a rock).

Here's a quick pic that I took tonight before heading off to the range. I don't plan on doing much to the gun by putting extra crap on it. I might add a flush rail on top, or possibly a Nordic Components magazine clamp with rail. But otherwise I like how the gun looks right now... clean, simple, and effective.