[CA_Libertarian]

Originally Posted by locosway

So, umm....

How do I pay with cash?

There's the option to send check/money order via mail. They might also accept cash, but it's a little more risky to send via mail.

Just make sure you include a note that it's for Thesues' case.

[bruss01]

I donated $10 even though times are tight for us right now (wife not working at all this past year).

I have mixed feelings about the case. Yes, I think the law is wrong, and I think it is being wrongly applied (in terms of justice) in this case. However, it does make for a stark reminder that if one is going to open your mouth (or display an openly worn firearm as a show of making a political statement) then you have to be smarter and sharper than your opposition, and make sure you are 100% legal 100% of the time, or eventually they will have you over this sort of barrel.

Good luck Mr. T and I hope blind justice manages to come up with an acorn on your behalf!

(obscure reference to that old slogan "Even a blind sow can find an acorn once in a while")

[MudCamper]

Originally Posted by oldrifle

If you want to donate using GunPal, just send a payment to donate@calgunsfoundation.org through your GunPal account.

Put "Theseus Defense Fund" in the comments box so they know what it's for.

Yes, I know, but IMO there really should be a GunPal option listed on that page.

Bump for another $100.

[GrizzlyGuy]

Originally Posted by CA_Libertarian

Good question... I forgot to ask everyone who donates to post the amount they're giving in the thread so i could get a tally. Most did, it appears.

Oops, I didn't. Mine was for $50, confirmation code=98A58390V2943351K

[CA_Libertarian]

Originally Posted by bruss01

...you have to be smarter and sharper than your opposition, and make sure you are 100% legal 100% of the time, or eventually they will have you over this sort of barrel...

Thesues was 100% legal 100% of the time. This is simply a case of an activist DA trying to get an activist judge to re-write the law to create a new crime.

In any case, thank you for your contribution. In this state, who knows which of us might be the next target of the gun-grabbers that be. I find it reassuring to know there are people out there who are willing to make sacrifices to help out their fellow man.

[inbox485]

Originally Posted by bruss01

I have mixed feelings about the case. Yes, I think the law is wrong, and I think it is being wrongly applied (in terms of justice) in this case. However, it does make for a stark reminder that if one is going to open your mouth (or display an openly worn firearm as a show of making a political statement) then you have to be smarter and sharper than your opposition, and make sure you are 100% legal 100% of the time, or eventually they will have you over this sort of barrel.

I think the important thing to remember in this case is that Theseus was legal 100% of the time. A DA has decided to crusade against gun owners and has found a judge with zero respect for rule of law that is willing to change to law enough to charge an innocent man. They both know it will either be tossed out by the jury or by an appeals court, but the damage will have been done financially. There is a special place in the far depths of hell for the both of them.

[demnogis]

Donated $50 yesterday, after payday tomorrow donating another $50.

Theseus needs to win this case. If not, it will set bad case precedence in regards to the private property exemption in 626.9.

[jmlivingston]

Thread's stickied. Like 'Crew said earlier, it probably doesn't need it but I did it anyway. One of us will unstick it in a day or two.

John

[CA_Libertarian]

Thanks to all that contributed. I don't think we made it to the $5,000 goal. However, I'm very happy with the turnout. Considering this was impromptu and mid-week, I think we did good!

Thanks again to those that donated, and to those I'm sure will see this the next day or two and donate after the deadline.

I'll still be sending another $10 to the cause, plus $20 next month to CGF's general fund.

BTW, there's some good play-by-play of day one of the hearing posted over on OpenCarry.org thanks to "coolusername". Start at the bottom of page 6.

[locosway]

Good luck... I only have cash on me and I don't know how to get cash to anyone.

[demnogis]

Another $50 donated, conf 18094722K80652431.

[JaMail]

so how much did we raise? had to have been damn close to 5k, with all the people putting in 100's

[vladbutsky]

$100

Transaction Details (GUNPAL Transaction ID: 7ED1480900)

Payment Sent To: The Calguns Foundation (finance@calgunsfoundation.org)
Status: Transaction has been successfully Completed

Comments: Theseus Defense Fund

[anthonyca]

Bump for $50. Conf #3DG545819G2378***

[Johnny Diablo]

$30 7ED1481F4C

[CitaDeL]

Money order inbound by mail.

[bodger]

Another $25 going out today. And more next week when I do my mid-month job billing.

Keep this going folks, we can't risk Theseus losing his appeal due to lack of funding counsel.

Theseus got put on a greased rail to a guilty verdict by a DA and a judge who cared more about making a point and swatting an "activist" than they did upholding the law and rendering genuine justice.

This hurts everyone, and not just gunnies.

Fill up this war chest!!

[Theseus]

Just a quick note. My appeal will be handled by a court appointed attorney. At this point the defense fund will pay my outstanding bill with Bruce.

As much as we can get that filled the better. He worked hard on this case even if you think he might have not done something right. He wasn't the only one in charge of making a decision. . . I was there too. trust me when I say that Bruce did good by me.

As for the judge and DA, I believe that they both truly did what they believed to be their job. The judge made what I believe to be by him, proper legal decisions. It does no one any good to call them names or berate them personally.

What we can do is help make this good case law that is enforceable against judges like mine so that this won't happen to anyone else.

Also, on another note. . . I won't be able to post any of the transcripts and such until at least sentencing.

[bruss01]

Originally Posted by CA_Libertarian

Thesues was 100% legal 100% of the time. This is simply a case of an activist DA trying to get an activist judge to re-write the law to create a new crime.

Unless I am in complete misunderstanding of the case, he was within 1000 feet of a school with a firearm, but did not realize that fact. That is technically illegal, isn't it? And ignorance of the law (or of where you gun happens to be in relation to the school) is no excuse? The only defense I see to the facts is whether he could have "reasonably" known where the school was, and it seems there is a lot of room for a DA to make a case there, such as, if you don't know where the schools are, don't go toting a gun around. <shrug> Is that your definition of 100% legal, to be arguably "right" (and equally arguably wrong) in a grey area? To me 100% legal means beyond all doubt, unarguably in the right. If you are 100% legal you will never be charged at all, anything else, you get charged, and it's up to a judge and jury to hash it out. For instance, I can unarguably walk down the street chewing bubble gum and blowing bubbles. No law against it, so if I got arrested for that it would be laughed out of court 5 minutes into the preliminary hearing because I was 100% unarguably legal.

By all means, feel free to correct me on any misunderstandings if you can do it clearly and concisely, without a lot of irrelevant window-dressing or slanting the facts to favor a particular point of view. I know the case has been discussed ad nauseum here but I'm not about to sift through 2000 pages of posts to find all the details that can be written up in a paragraph and a half, to find one small subtle point on which I may be misinformed.

[Theseus]

This has been explained plenty of times in the regular thread. Keep this the fund raising thread please.

Originally Posted by bruss01

Unless I am in complete misunderstanding of the case, he was within 1000 feet of a school with a firearm, but did not realize that fact. That is technically illegal, isn't it? And ignorance of the law (or of where you gun happens to be in relation to the school) is no excuse? The only defense I see to the facts is whether he could have "reasonably" known where the school was, and it seems there is a lot of room for a DA to make a case there, such as, if you don't know where the schools are, don't go toting a gun around. <shrug> Is that your definition of 100% legal, to be arguably "right" (and equally arguably wrong) in a grey area? To me 100% legal means beyond all doubt, unarguably in the right. If you are 100% legal you will never be charged at all, anything else, you get charged, and it's up to a judge and jury to hash it out. For instance, I can unarguably walk down the street chewing bubble gum and blowing bubbles. No law against it, so if I got arrested for that it would be laughed out of court 5 minutes into the preliminary hearing because I was 100% unarguably legal.

By all means, feel free to correct me on any misunderstandings if you can do it clearly and concisely, without a lot of irrelevant window-dressing or slanting the facts to favor a particular point of view.

[Beatone]

50.00 sent. Confirmation #1PE16750SS2238221

[bruss01]

Originally Posted by Theseus

This has been explained plenty of times in the regular thread. Keep this the fund raising thread please.

Sorry for the drift. By way of apology, I'll send another $10 contribution on my next payday. Anyone who wants to answer me can send a PM. Fight the good fight, carry on.

[Fot]

60393881GH4972936 $10

Money tight with work slow downs around the Holidays

[Timberline]

Can someone please correct the misspelled name in the thread title?

[JTecalo]

$10 by gunpal

[CA_Libertarian]

Better late than never! Thanks for the donation!

Even though I don't believe we made the $5,000 mark, I'm still donating another $10 to Theseus's case, as well as matching my total $20 with donations to CalGuns Foundation.

Thanks again to all who donated, and again to CGF for facilitating the donations for this case.

[Trigger Guard]

In for $10 Confirmation number: 6XE70481WN6681016

[emtnsocali]

any word on how things are going for him????

[emtnsocali]

Confirmation number: 1KS10300XH665070R for $25

[Beatone]

Originally Posted by emtnsocali

any word on how things are going for him????

Check here http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...142379&page=71
Post #707.

[freedomtools]

sent $25 paypal

[xxdabroxx]

is theseus going to appeal?

[inbox485]

Originally Posted by xxdabroxx

is theseus going to appeal?

As far as I've heard he is preparing it already.

[Theseus]

Appeal filed.

At this point all donations through Calguns does nothing for my future case and only pays my exhaustive legal bill from the trial. If you are donating take that into consideration. Any money to my dfense fund at this point will not make my appeal any smoother and might be better donated toward Calguns Foundation.

I appreciate the support until now. . . but the best support I can have right now is a members sponsored shoot in Nevada where I can once again feel the love of cold steel or aluminum on my hands. I would love to be able to fire a firearm again...

[Liberty1]

Good luck and God Speed...

[inbox485]

I just noticed in Cooley's motion to suppress mistake of fact that apparently he thinks the GFSZ is 1000 yards!

Also your pages from the answer appear to be scrambled. 1st page appears correct. Following pages are from other motions.

[artherd]

Keep donating anyway - this is a brother in arms who's done nothing wrong yet got convicted anyway.

Brief summary: Theseus was in a public area of private property. Private Property is exempted from the law. The judge was too stupid to realize this and found against him anyway.

Theseus was legal.

[boxbro]

Originally Posted by artherd

Keep donating anyway - this is a brother in arms who's done nothing wrong yet got convicted anyway.

Brief summary: Theseus was in a public area of private property. Private Property is exempted from the law. The judge was too stupid to realize this and found against him anyway.

Theseus was legal.

I don't think the judge was too stupid, I think he was probably just too bias.
If that is the case, he is not fit to be a judge.

[bodger]

Originally Posted by Theseus

Appeal filed.

At this point all donations through Calguns does nothing for my future case and only pays my exhaustive legal bill from the trial. If you are donating take that into consideration. Any money to my dfense fund at this point will not make my appeal any smoother and might be better donated toward Calguns Foundation.

I appreciate the support until now. . . but the best support I can have right now is a members sponsored shoot in Nevada where I can once again feel the love of cold steel or aluminum on my hands. I would love to be able to fire a firearm again...

I searched a lot of the Theseus threads and did not find an answer so I've revived this thread.

What is the status of Theseus' appeal? It's of particular interest to me and probably to others as well since McDonald went our way.

Any update?

[Maestro Pistolero]

I really would like to see this resolved in his favor. Ditto any updates?