Saw this on craigslist...

[Diabolus]

Originally Posted by C-Los

what about bartering?

100 "roses"? any takers?

I see what you did there!!

[Fjold]

Originally Posted by Mike's Custom

Wrong! It is illegal to TRANSFER, including giving as a GIFT.

CA Dept. DOJ
Bureau of Firearms
Notice
Dec. 31, 2000

(First line of this document)
Effective January 1. 2000, the manufacture, importation, sale or TRANSFER of any large capacity firearms magazines. except to specifically designated parties and under certain conditions (including law enforcement use, loans for service/repair, et al.) is prohibited by law.

CA DOJ BoF Peanal Code Statues Pertaining to Large-Capacity Magazines Effective Jan, 31,2002

12020 (a) Any person in this state who does ANY of hte following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:

(2)Commencing Jan 1,2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who GIVES, or LENDS, any large-capacity magazine.

QUOTE=Caiman;3313331]I would have bought them had the price been much lower. Nothing wrong/illegal with buying hi-caps in state. That way, I could own hi caps legally.

You are wrong also. Read above.[/quote]





Mike,

You're not reading what I posted. I said that it is not illegal to buy one or receive one as a gift.

The law as you quote it above makes it illegal to sell, give, lend, import, manufacture, etc. but the law doesn't punish anyone who buys or receives one as a gift, loan, etc. It only addresses the actions of the person who makes, imports, sells, offers for sale, gives or lends it.

[CSACANNONEER]

Originally Posted by Mike's Custom

Wrong! It is illegal to TRANSFER, including giving as a GIFT.

CA Dept. DOJ
Bureau of Firearms
Notice
Dec. 31, 2000

(First line of this document)
Effective January 1. 2000, the manufacture, importation, sale or TRANSFER of any large capacity firearms magazines. except to specifically designated parties and under certain conditions (including law enforcement use, loans for service/repair, et al.) is prohibited by law.

CA DOJ BoF Peanal Code Statues Pertaining to Large-Capacity Magazines Effective Jan, 31,2002

12020 (a) Any person in this state who does ANY of hte following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:

(2)Commencing Jan 1,2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who GIVES, or LENDS, any large-capacity magazine.

QUOTE=Caiman;3313331]I would have bought them had the price been much lower. Nothing wrong/illegal with buying hi-caps in state. That way, I could own hi caps legally.

You are wrong also. Read above.

Please show me where in the law it states that it is illegal to "transfer" +10 round mags. You need to stop, reread the law carefully and not insert your own idea of what the law was intended to say. Instead, read what it does say. Nowhere does it state that it is illegal to buy or receive +10 round mags in Ca.

[Dangerpin]

Aren't there two parties in any transfer? I'm not a legal expert, just thinking that word alone might be a stumbling block.

[sv_1]

I purchased a pile of magazines from a craigslist guy who was offering them for sale whole. I asked him to take them apart and toss the followers in the trash before I payed or picked them up, that way there would be no questions that they were for parts only.

He seemed really grateful that I called to explain that he was breaking the law the way he advertised them. He had no idea.

[jarhead995]

Originally Posted by Mike's Custom

Wrong! It is illegal to TRANSFER, including giving as a GIFT.

CA Dept. DOJ
Bureau of Firearms
Notice
Dec. 31, 2000

(First line of this document)
Effective January 1. 2000, the manufacture, importation, sale or TRANSFER of any large capacity firearms magazines. except to specifically designated parties and under certain conditions (including law enforcement use, loans for service/repair, et al.) is prohibited by law.

CA DOJ BoF Peanal Code Statues Pertaining to Large-Capacity Magazines Effective Jan, 31,2002

12020 (a) Any person in this state who does ANY of hte following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:

(2)Commencing Jan 1,2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who GIVES, or LENDS, any large-capacity magazine.

QUOTE=Caiman;3313331]I would have bought them had the price been much lower. Nothing wrong/illegal with buying hi-caps in state. That way, I could own hi caps legally.

You are wrong also. Read above.[/quote]


I CALL BULLS**T the is spelled wrong..

[kellito]

Originally Posted by Mike's Custom

CA DOJ BoF PENAL Code STATUTES Pertaining to Large-Capacity Magazines Effective Jan, 31,2002

as long as we are fixing spelling....

[Caiman]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

Nowhere does it state that it is illegal to buy or receive +10 round mags in Ca.

^^ this.

[snobord99]

Originally Posted by Fjold

Mike,

You're not reading what I posted. I said that it is not illegal to buy one or receive one as a gift.

The law as you quote it above makes it illegal to sell, give, lend, import, manufacture, etc. but the law doesn't punish anyone who buys or receives one as a gift, loan, etc. It only addresses the actions of the person who makes, imports, sells, offers for sale, gives or lends it.

In all fairness, he didn't fully disagree with you. He says "Wrong! It is illegal to TRANSFER, including giving as a GIFT." So he basically does say it's illegal to be the transferor, but I don't see where he says it's illegal to be the transferee. Of course you could argue that that can be implied by his saying "Wrong!"

[Caiman]

Originally Posted by snobord99

In all fairness, he didn't fully disagree with you. He says "Wrong! It is illegal to TRANSFER, including giving as a GIFT." So he basically does say it's illegal to be the transferor, but I don't see where he says it's illegal to be the transferee. Of course you could argue that that can be implied by his saying "Wrong!"

On his post #19 all the way at the bottom, he replys to my statement where I stated that I would buy since there is nothing illegal about buying (i.e. legal to buy). So yes, the argument is strong that 'wrong' would imply that he is stating that it is 'illegal' to be the transferee.