[offrdmania]

Came across these, i doubt they would cycle in a semi auto but still cool for some plinking. These will definitely kill those pesky spiders in the corner of the livingroom.

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm...dID=AU1B222337

[bigthaiboy]

I have a 500rd box of the Aguila Colibri ammo. Comes in two "loads": 375fps and 500fps. Natchez's suggestion of shooting a .22LR in your living room is inadvisable. A 20grn lead bullet traveling at 375fps or 500fps can definitely do some damage.

I have shot them in my garage, and at 15ft, a 20grn bullet traveling at 375fps will bury itself in a wood beam. After seeing that, I wouldn't want to get shot by one.

Very cool to shoot though. Will not cycle a semi-auto at all. Quieter than an air rifle, if shot from a rifle. But loud if shot from a pistol with a 3" barrel.

[freakshow10mm]

Have some of the 500fps loads. Stupid quiet with a suppressor on my P22. Will not cycle the action.

[coq]

Sounds cool but I haven't tried those, as I only have semi-auto...but I do like the subsonics...they are noticeably quieter than regular .22LR, and they easily cycle.

[BroncoBob]

I've used them for a couple of years in my Rossi Pump. Great little rounds.

[MAD SVT]

i accidently bought some with my last large e-purchase... have yet to try them out

[CSACANNONEER]

I have 4000 or so rounds of these. I've been shooting them for the last five or six years. They are very fun in my Super 14 Contender. They are not ment for rifles because they can sqib easily but, they can be shot from them if you pay attention. They will not cycle any SA. BTW, my Benjamin .22cal pump air rifles deliver a lot more energy than these rounds do. So, I don't suggest using them on small game or pests that are over 25' away!

[bigthaiboy]

Forgot to mention that, with only a 20grn bullet the overall round is shorter in length than a regular .22LR, so feeding from the mag can be troublesome, on both manually cycled SAs and bolt actions.

[CSACANNONEER]

Originally Posted by bigthaiboy

Forgot to mention that, with only a 20grn bullet the overall round is shorter in length than a regular .22LR, so feeding from the mag can be troublesome, on both manually cycled SAs and bolt actions.

True, the OAL is shorter but, the brass is lr brass so, these can't be fired from a .22 short or .22 long, just .22 long rifle. Although you might experience feed problems in some mag fed guns, they work great in wheelguns and pumps.

[beemaze]

Colibris and Super Colibris work perfect in my bolt action, mag fed Remington 581. I've killed many a flying rodent with these....

[caldude]

I just got some of these. They are less powerful than my pellet gun, but also make less noise. Just for grins, I used an old CD as a target and the Colibri bullets just bounced off. My pellet gun punches right through CDs.

[sevensix2x51]

i have been shooting super colibris through my 10/22 for at least a few years. they are awesome, and pack more heat than a lot of pellet guns. ive gone head to head between the two into phone books, and the super colibri can kick some serious butt... they are certainly awesome. a little bit noisy in a handgun, but sound like a red ryder in a rifle almost... always good to have a box or two lying around...

[olhunter]

Originally Posted by beemaze

Colibris and Super Colibris work perfect in my bolt action, mag fed Remington 581. I've killed many a flying rodent with these....

Marlin 81 for me. Yep, backyard sky-rats drop like flies (fly's?). Anyone notice that they bleed a lot? Seems like more than other birds.

[snobord99]

I have the Colibri (375fps) version and it packs more punch than my .177 pellet gun (which is about 1,000fps). Went through more pages of the phone book and had no problem putting an exit hole in a not-yet mature lemon while the pellet couldn't make the exit hole.

Works great in my 10/22, just use it like a bolt action and manually cycle them. Major problem is they drop like crazy.

[k1dude]

Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER

I have 4000 or so rounds of these. I've been shooting them for the last five or six years. They are very fun in my Super 14 Contender. They are not ment for rifles because they can sqib easily but, they can be shot from them if you pay attention. They will not cycle any SA. BTW, my Benjamin .22cal pump air rifles deliver a lot more energy than these rounds do. So, I don't suggest using them on small game or pests that are over 25' away!

I've seen several one-shot racoon kills at 40' with the 500fps Super Colibri's out of a lever action. I suspect they'd be deadly on small game to 100'.

Correction: The one shot kills were with CCI CB Long's, not Aguila Super Colibri's. Since I was thinking of the wrong ammo, you're most likely correct. 25' is probably the max effective range for pests.

[k1dude]

I keep reading in posts here that the Colibri's are less powerful than a pellet gun. That isn't true. .177 pellets at 1000fps have something like 17 ft. lbs. of energy at the muzzle. The Super Colibri's have something like 33 ft. lbs. of energy at the muzzle. So basically the .22 subs pack twice the punch of a .177 pellet.

Correction: I was thinking about CCI CB Long's, not Aguila Super Colibri's. Super Colibri's only have 11 ft. lbs. of energy. So they have less energy than a .177 pellet at 1000 fps.

[maxicon]

I've got some of the Super Colibris, and they definitely pack a punch. I've seen them go completely through 3/8" pine and embed in another piece behind it.

[bohoki]

i bought a whole case of them about 8 years ago

the stuff is kind of corrosive it has just about ruined my remington pump

[zhyla]

What's the legality of shooting these in, say, your garage? Are there laws against this or is it ok as long as you're not being reckless?

[maxicon]

Depends on where you live, but in general, discharging firearms within the city limits is illegal, regardless of the power of the rounds.

[zhyla]

Originally Posted by maxicon

Depends on where you live, but in general, discharging firearms within the city limits is illegal, regardless of the power of the rounds.

Figures. Probably for the best - I could see grabbing the wrong mag and accidentally punching a hole in the neighbor's house.

[Brasspolisher]

I don't have any experience with these rounds, but if you want another source besides Natchez (at a lower price, at least at the moment), they turned up in a 'deals' email from JGSales earlier in the week:

22LR Aguila 20GR Super Colibri Solid Point. 50rd Box - $3.19

[U2BassAce]

Originally Posted by bigthaiboy

I have a 500rd box of the Aguila Colibri ammo. Comes in two "loads": 375fps and 500fps. Natchez's suggestion of shooting a .22LR in your living room is inadvisable. A 20grn lead bullet traveling at 375fps or 500fps can definitely do some damage.

I have shot them in my garage, and at 15ft, a 20grn bullet traveling at 375fps will bury itself in a wood beam. After seeing that, I wouldn't want to get shot by one.

Very cool to shoot though. Will not cycle a semi-auto at all. Quieter than an air rifle, if shot from a rifle. But loud if shot from a pistol with a 3" barrel.

I shot the 375s they will go through a full 1 gallon plastic milk container when shot out of a 5 inch barrel from 30 feet away. Don't ask me how I know. BTW pretty loud. About like a nail gun.

[stfrog]

I have used them in my walther p22,But they would not work in my ruger mk3.The round is to short.

[bigcalidave]

Originally Posted by bohoki

i bought a whole case of them about 8 years ago

the stuff is kind of corrosive it has just about ruined my remington pump

What's corrosive? There is no powder! The thing I found shooting these is they leave a LOT of lead in the barrel, like I have shot them until a rifle stops shooting before.. Then you gotta ram out all the lead and clean the heck out of it.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

It all depends on where you live. Many places only have restrictions on shooting outside of your home. I was under the impression that you can set up a plinking lane in your garage and not run into any issues. At least according to the local gunsmith and the cops that frequent his shop. Personally I like the CCI CB Longs. They don't cycle any SA actions either. But they do a number on rabbits, ground squirrels and feral cats out to about 40 yards. I mostly use them to avoid disturbing the neighbors. Not because shooting is illegal there. But mostly so I don't have to field any questions about what happened to their cat Fluffy, after repeatedly telling them that it was trying to attack our chickens...

[troysland]

My brother bought a box of these and ran them through his Colt Umarex M4 before reading the box. Bad Idea. He bent to all hell my set of cleaning rods trying to push the stuck bullets out of the barrel. We counted about 4 total but hard to tell. It was more like 4 small chunks of lead. It left a lot of lead fouling in the rifling as he also destroyed my boresnake by running it through before a good copper brushing! It tore up like a dental floss wrapped around a shoelace. Sorry, that's the best visual I could come up with. Moral of the story, read the box!

[beemaze]

Lead fouling occurs with any lead projectile. So yea, cleaning's a ***** if you don't do it more frequently than you would do with FMJ ammo.

As for the primer, I am not aware of it being corrosive. FYI, most corrosive ammo is corrosive because of the primer, not the powder....

I've shot it through an old bolt action Remington and my sons' Davy Cricket (great for training the little ones BTW) without any corrosion issues. One of my buddy's in Vegas shoots his Colibris through his Walther G22 (Herons killing his Koi fish!). Obviously, he has to cycle the bolt manually. Oh, and the Herons don't like the lead either lol.

[jsmith8918]

I've used them only occasionally in the garage to check function after tinkering with angles on firing pins and such. Good for that role. At a distance of only 15 yards, the drop is significantly noticeable compared to a standard load so you can't really use them to sight it for any other load.

[jdberger]

great stuff for pigeons.

My roommate and I used to come home from class and do a little pest control til the GF came home from work one day to find one flopping in the driveway.

She wasn't amused....

[rromeo]

So it's okay for a bolt action rifle as long as I'm paying attention for a stoppage in the barrel?

[Sheldon]

I have shot a few boxes of the Super Colibri thru my Winchester 52D and it has a 28" barrel. Been fine so far. Just be sure it leaves the barrel before you stack too many behind one another.