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Old 06-25-2009, 8:58 PM
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anyone know where to get a KAC muzzle break? i heard they cost $450 anyone think its worth it?



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looks like a tacticool disco ball hahaha
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i remember looking it up. i believe chris costa of magpul dynamics uses it. from what i've read on ar15.com, its going to be a limited run due to the complexity of manufacturing (correct me if i'm wrong)
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thats what i read too. but i hear that the material its made of is top line. but the break will last longer than the barrel....hahahaha
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Cool!Does it cut diamonds??
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For 450 it better shoot my rifle and be able to hand me another mag when I'm done.
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yes that is and she is my wife....homie. drool all you want.
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For 450 it better shoot my rifle and be able to hand me another mag when I'm done.
totally agree. that break would be good for an AK or any other 7.62 rifle. but the ar15 has such a small kick i dont think its worth it
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It was a limited run. Made of super-hard Inconel, it took hours of laser cutting to cut the tiny vents. Both Chris Costa and Travis Haley of Magpul have them on their carbines, and I have seen these brakes in person. There is no perceivable muzzle rise, and they have nice flash suppressing capabilities too.

Funny thing is, they are basically the same overall concept as an A2 flash hider with the front mostly closed off, sort of like the Branson Comp.
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totally agree. that break would be good for an AK or any other 7.62 rifle. but the ar15 has such a small kick i dont think its worth it
People dont buy brakes for their AR15s to save their shoulder, its meant to make them shoot faster. They dont call it the KAC triple tap brake for nothing
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I so need one or two of those...
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It is worth it. Used it first hand. Very effective. I don't understand why they can't just make a steel version, maybe they will.

$432.95

http://www.operationparts.com/KAC_KN...EL_p/25683.htm



PS. $450 is just equal a case of XM193....
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How is the side blast on these? I have used a Phantom Brake, and it was unbearable to shoot or stand next to another shooter. It was like a cannon going off next to your ear!

Are these better in this respect? I'd hate to spend $435 for something I would hate using.

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It is worth it. Used it first hand. Very effective. I don't understand why they can't just make a steel version, maybe they will.

$432.95

http://www.operationparts.com/KAC_KN...EL_p/25683.htm



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Here is some pictures of the brake in action.









Its loud, bright and it is very expensive. build with the KAC M4QD suppressor in mind, it utilize the Inconel as the base material this material is expensive and most suppressor mfg use it as the blast baffle. KAC build an entire muzzle out of it.
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How is the side blast on these? I have used a Phantom Brake, and it was unbearable to shoot or stand next to another shooter. It was like a cannon going off next to your ear!

Are these better in this respect? I'd hate to spend $435 for something I would hate using.
Didn't notice any, but I was shooting outdoor, and not in a "line", and I didn't get a chance to stand right next to the brake. It certainly did not give me the sense of "a cannon going off".
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I've used a lot of different comps on my rifles. The best in recoil reduction was the Miculek, but the directed blast out of the short barrel came back to my face.

The worst so far, was an early Branson I got from DPMS. The blast was horrendous, the recoil was the same with or without the brake, and the end-cap blew off before I had fired 300 rounds.

The GI brake works just OK.

I have fired a buddy's rifle with a FA Enterprises Extreme screwed on......VERY nice, but very odd.

I now endorse JP Enterprises brakes. Although large, they nearly eliminate recoil, direct the blast away from me, and up the "exotic" factor by 10. I plan on adding them to all my black and green rifles.
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nice..PWS products might be a cheaper alternative.
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There are many many brakes out there...

The reason is that this KAC brake is supposed to be better than others... I haven't try ALL the brakes out there, but this particular one is indeed very effective! (it is pricy tho)
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I understand but is this 10 times better ? (450 dolls against 45/50)..if they make it in steel for a decent price, it could be available to us poor peasants
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I understand but is this 10 times better ? (450 dolls against 45/50)..if they make it in steel for a decent price, it could be available to us poor peasants
The KAC name make it 2x the price.

The materials make it a couple more times.

That sounds about right for anything KAC.

If you think it is too expensive, then it is not for you.

A KAC 2-stage trigger is $350? Is it worth it? Probably not. Is it KAC, yes, it is.
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The KAC name make it 2x the price.

The materials make it a couple more times.

That sounds about right for anything KAC.

If you think it is too expensive, then it is not for you.

A KAC 2-stage trigger is $350? Is it worth it? Probably not. Is it KAC, yes, it is.
KAC 2-stage is NOT worth the price, that I know for sure.
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+1 on Miculek! I have it on a DPMS .308 AR upper and it recoils like my 5.56 with A2 birdcage.
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There are many many brakes out there...

The reason is that this KAC brake is supposed to be better than others... I haven't try ALL the brakes out there, but this particular one is indeed very effective! (it is pricy tho)
I like my Surefire MB556....very effective, and not so loud..
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I'm happy with the MSTN Quiet Control Brake: http://www.pri-mounts.com/mm5/mercha...e=AR15_M16_ACC
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It's for tacticool mall ninjas.

Inconel is not that expensive, we use lots of it in turbines here at work and the laser cutting is done on CNC machines that are start and forget.
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Inconel is not that expensive, we use lots of it in turbines here at work and the laser cutting is done on CNC machines that are start and forget.
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......the laser cutting is done on CNC machines that are start and forget.
You should have used the RONCO slogan for a lot of their food stuff like their Rotissere....... SET it, and FORGET it.......


I love those infomericals, never bought anything but the food looked so good. Too bad they don't make infomericals for gun products

Can you imagine the infomercial for the KAC break, with Chris Costa saying "bust 'em", hahahaha........ "But wait thats not all, every break comes with a free PMAG, with just 5 easy payments of 49.95, you too can be like Travis Haley and Chris Costa."
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Has anyone tried one of these on an AR pistol. I'd be interested in how much the recoil gets reduced and how much of a blast comes back.
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A $450 muzzle brake is a wast of $. If you want the most effective one on the market, get the JP model. Kills 70% of .223 recoil. They have a vid of a guy shooting a XM177E2 on full auto and the thing doesn't move--he is also only holding the gun with one hand. Its an impressive piece and only like $90.
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...and they have nice flash suppressing capabilities too.
Flash suppression??

See photos of brake in action on page 2, courtesy of smglee.

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Flash suppression??

See photos of brake in action on page 2, courtesy of smglee.
I heard you have to keep the slots in the brake clean or you get a huge fireball. Supposedly costa's brake was very dirty thats why the muzzle flash was so huge.
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I heard you have to keep the slots in the brake clean or you get a huge fireball. Supposedly costa's brake was very dirty thats why the muzzle flash was so huge.

don't think so... I was there at the M4C LAV private class, Costa started with a clean gun.. it was throwing fireballs...
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Have you seen the types of threads the OP starts?

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why you hatin' randall?...hahaha

just trying to get all the info i can before i pull stupid buy and look like a dusch.
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why you hatin' randall?...hahaha

just trying to get all the info i can before i pull stupid buy and look like a dusch.
Well, at least you can shoot for batting .500.
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Well, at least you can shoot for batting .500.
so so true. man....its 3am. and i'm drunk on this forum. i seriously have no life and i'm truely a internet combative.
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There are definitely people buying this thing tho.... they've got like 10 yesterday, and it is down to 3 now...

http://www.operationparts.com/KAC_KN...EL_p/25683.htm
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I bought one. Wanted one before but couldn't find one. Always thought it looked cool from the PDW pics. I plan on using it with a KAC flip up FSB on a pistol. I still need the URX carbine length rail.
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