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Old 05-18-2009, 5:17 PM
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Ok, so I enlisted in 05. But was discharged for not disclosing medical information. I'm eligible for re-enlistment and have had two surgeries since my original discharge. As of now I need at least 2 waivers, possibly 3.

I am nearing the end of my physical therapy from my knee surgery which I had last summer and am running over a mile now. Originally I could barely run 100 yards.

Last week, I contacted a guard recruiter. He told me the guard isn't accepting waivers right now for enlisted personnel. He told me with the economy and the end of the school year there are tons of applicants. He told me my only option for re-enlistment (obtaining my waivers) would be if I finished my AA degree or just accumulated 60 units. Then he could work with me to get a commission. Otherwise he couldn't do anything for me until maybe Oct-November, when the pool of applicants dries up.

I am planning to finish my degree one way or the other, but with working full time I'm at best 2 years off still. So hell by then the situation could change and they may not be giving waivers for Officers.

Anyways my question...

What would be the best degree to shoot for if one wanted to go for a commission? I asked the recruiter and he told me just having 60 units would be enough, because the Guard needs Officers bad. I was going to go for a business degree as I have future plans of hopefully opening my own business. Although I was wondering if another degree would be more appealing?


I'm not strictly stuck on the Guard, but I own my home, so while I want to go full time, I want to stay local. I'm considering poking my nose around in the Army and Air Force reserves to see if the situation for waivers is the same. I'm only 23, so I'm not in a rush, but I won't lie that I'd love to get back in sooner rather then later.
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Old 05-18-2009, 7:55 PM
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I know in the Regular Army, an AA only gets you E-3 it does not get you a commission. I have 60 units and they told me the highest I can go in at is E-3. With a BA you can go in as an E-4 or get a commission. Good luck.
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Old 05-18-2009, 8:01 PM
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I know in the Regular Army, an AA only gets you E-3 it does not get you a commission. I have 60 units and they told me the highest I can go in at is E-3. With a BA you can go in as an E-4 or get a commission. Good luck.
the guard you just need 60 units,the commission is from the state
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Old 05-18-2009, 8:05 PM
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the guard is the best shot to get back in the military. the state gives the waivers, not DA, so it's easier
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Old 05-18-2009, 8:19 PM
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the guard you just need 60 units,the commission is from the state
I see. So could someone join the guard and get commissioned and then switch over to the regular army at the same rank?
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Old 05-18-2009, 8:28 PM
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I see. So could someone join the guard and get commissioned and then switch over to the regular army at the same rank?
no then you need a BA, the OCS(one weekend a month) in state is different from REG ARMY OCS...
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no then you need a BA, the OCS(one weekend a month) in state is different from REG ARMY OCS...
Got it. Thank you. I don't really know much about the guard. I enlisted in the Army and I leave for basic training next month.
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Back when I was younger and thinner, the technical degrees (engineering, mathematics, computer science and other science fields) were always in short supply so they got the most scholarships for ROTC. Once you are in, you will be expected to get a Master's Degree before making Major, so you could study business and get an MBA at that time.
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The National Guard is probably your worst bet at this point. The Army National Guard no longer grants ANY medical waivers or moral waivers. The minimum ASVAB score is a 50 (compared to 31 or so with the other branches).

The way it looks, you'd most likely require two waivers. A 'moral' waiver for your original discharge and a medical waiver because of whatever the condition was and the two subsequent surgeries resulting from it.

You should try the Active Army or the Army Reserves.
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It looks like you are in Sacramento. We have PT every Tuesday and Thursday at 4 pm if you want to come work out with us and talk to the recruiters. Send me a pm if you are interested. They also have weekend things they do every now and then.
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Old 05-19-2009, 12:08 PM
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The National Guard is probably your worst bet at this point. The Army National Guard no longer grants ANY medical waivers or moral waivers. The minimum ASVAB score is a 50 (compared to 31 or so with the other branches).

The way it looks, you'd most likely require two waivers. A 'moral' waiver for your original discharge and a medical waiver because of whatever the condition was and the two subsequent surgeries resulting from it.

You should try the Active Army or the Army Reserves.

It's sad that I get more information online on a message board then from talking to a recruiter...

How'd you get your info? Are you a recruiter or active?

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It looks like you are in Sacramento. We have PT every Tuesday and Thursday at 4 pm if you want to come work out with us and talk to the recruiters. Send me a pm if you are interested. They also have weekend things they do every now and then.
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It's sad that I get more information online on a message board then from talking to a recruiter...

How'd you get your info? Are you a recruiter or active?



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i think his a guard recruiter if i remenber correct
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