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Old 04-13-2009, 3:54 PM
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Default Newbie guide to the Big Reno Gun Show?

Yes I know there are half a dozen "who's going to Reno" threads but I can't find anything posted about what should first timers expect. This is my 1st trip to the Big Reno show but not to guns shows in general. I'll be heading up Thursday night with a friend and staying at The Grand Sierra Thurs-Fri but I have a bunch of questions about the show like:

When should I line up Friday morning to get in?

Is it better to buy tickets in advance or at the door?

What major vendors are the best bet for finding reloading supplies (I need SP primers) and where are they typically located? Do there vendors have limits on how many primers you can buy?

Is there a big booth or vendor that is known to sell milsurp stuff (Ammo/mags/C&R guns)?

Has the show been know to have pick-pocketing problems? I figure I'd be carrying a good amount of cash.

How long does it take to make a complete "round" in the show and see every booth (on average)

If I bought a C&R gun on say Friday where is a safe place to keep it? Do people carry them with them or do they leave them inside the hotel room?

What other stops are "musts" when I leave Reno? I figure I'd stop in at Cabelas at least. (I'm mostly into C&R)

Any other tips/pointers you can think of?

Sorry for the noob questions but I would assume there are a few others on CG that will be making their first trip. I just don't want to get there and get stuck looking around like a tourist.
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Old 04-13-2009, 4:37 PM
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And if you buy a couple thousand rounds of ammo, is it "safe" to go put it in your car? Have there been any reports of cars being watched and then "unloaded" while your back inside the show?
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I've never been to this show, and have no real constructive advice, but I would like to respond to one of your questions, which caused me to chuckle a bit. You may have a legitimate concern, but the question just hit me as somewhat ironic -

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Has the show been know to have pick-pocketing problems? I figure I'd be carrying a good amount of cash.
That would be one brave pickpocket. Nevada is Shall Issue w.r.t. CCW licenses. I don't know if the show has restrictions on carrying (also very ironic if so), but I'd LIKE to think most crooks are smart enough to not try to lift somebody's wallet at a gunshow in a state that allows its citizens to protect themselves.

I just found that entertaining.

Back on topic, I plan on going as well, but probably won't make it up until Sat morning, so I look forward to some real answers to your questions.

(This reminds me, I need to finish my Utah CCW paperwork. Utah CCW=NV carry)
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If I bought a C&R gun on say Friday where is a safe place to keep it? Do people carry them with them or do they leave them inside the hotel room?
I went to a Reno show about 10 years ago. It was at a casino that had a fairly large auditorium. Probably about 150 - 200 tables. The main entrance to the show was inside the casino. Anyway, I had brought my Glock with me because I didn't want to leave it in my room so I wore it around the show. After leaving the show I went to the casino & played the slots for a couple of hours still wearing my Glock (open carry since I wasn't an NV resident). Nobody said a word or gave me an odd look. Wonder what they'd do nowadays?
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its too late to buy your ticket now they have to mail it to you

i think its 14 for 3 days or 7.50 a day

if you are just going one day buy the 3 day anyway and sell it to someone for $10 people are always coming in

if you go with friends set up meeting times like see you at noon in the booze room(just an example)

dont wear anything that screams (i'm from california) or pot leaves or baggy pants pulled down to your knees

make a list of things you want because walking throught the door is awe inspiring and some are known to collapse and forget their names

if your wallet has a drivers licence window flip it over so know one sees it as you are pulling out cash

dont break any federal laws

bring a back pack

it will be crowded learn how to politely swim through crowds

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dont expect miwall to have any primers past noon on friday

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Buy your tickets there.

If you want primers and/or ammo be at the door Friday at opening time. Buy that stuff first and then take it to your car or room, then go back to look around at all the other stuff. Miwall has hand trucks they will loan out (with a drivers license) so you don't have to carry it all by hand (ammo is very heavy after a while).

Miwall usually has their tables in the left rear of the first room, and along the back wall of the back room. They have pretty much the same stuff at both places.

Don't leave the show rooms without getting your hand stamped (or what ever they are using that day).

I carry my cash in one front pocket and my wallet in the other front pocket.

Take a small back pack/book bag for all the little stuff you might buy.

Take several unsigned copies of your C&R because you never know what you might find.

Don't be afraid to haggle. Especially with private sellers of C&R firearms. Lots of private sellers will have a table if they are selling a sizeable collection. But always keep your eyes open for private sellers wandering around with a rifle for sale on their shoulder.

Cash talks when haggling a price. Avoid using a credit card if you can. A credit card requires producing ID. ID makes you from CA. Cash makes you from the USA.

Most dealers I have bought C&R rifles from when I'm short of cash, when I lay a copy of my license on the table and ask if they'll take a check, say yes, even though they can plainly see I'm from CA. Writing a bad check to a FFL is fraud on the federal level and most of them seem to know that. I've bought many C&R rifles with a check.

If there are any C&R firearms you want, rifles or hand guns, research prices BEFORE you go so you know what the fair market values are.

If you are staying all 3 days, go back late Sunday. Sellers don't want to take stuff home are more willing to cut the price if they haven't sold.

And like the bohoki said, don't break any federal laws.
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I went to a Reno show about 10 years ago. It was at a casino that had a fairly large auditorium. Probably about 150 - 200 tables. The main entrance to the show was inside the casino. Anyway, I had brought my Glock with me because I didn't want to leave it in my room so I wore it around the show. After leaving the show I went to the casino & played the slots for a couple of hours still wearing my Glock (open carry since I wasn't an NV resident). Nobody said a word or gave me an odd look. Wonder what they'd do nowadays?
It's still the same.
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In Second room (After booze room )when you go through door turn right on first aisle and go over to 3 or 4 vendors to right ( usuially a balg guy in his late 30's and a teenager or 20 somthing ) they have the best bargan plastic tus to dig through ,trust me real treasures await in those bins !
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Great info so far, keep it coming!

Also: Can I buy tickets for the show Thursday night? And are there 2 lines in the morning (1 for tickets and 1 to get in)? What i'm getting at is if I didn't buy tickets in advance will I have to wait in 2 long lines?
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I suggest if your some kind of military, wear your shirt. The last couple times I have gone I get treated a lil better and I also seem to get less nonsense in regards to prices. I should have posted that sooner. But there are alot of vendors who are exmilitary and know we dont get paid much.
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What's up with all the hiding that you're from California? Do they really treat you differently if you are complying with the law? Why would they care?
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They hate Californians. Sad fact. Alot of tables I went to the common thread of conversation was what a crap place Cali was. One of the guys I went with in order to pass himself off as not a Kalifornian would joke about it to get some sales. They are private vendors and have the choice not to sell.
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What about Californian vendors? Are there any over there?
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Check the road conditions. There was some paving going on last week on 80.
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What about Californian vendors? Are there any over there?
There's a few. Commercial vendors normally will have their business name on their name tag.

I believe there's also a color difference between the name tags for commercial vendors and private sellers (with a table), but I do not remember what it is.
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Last time I was there a fellow CA youngster was arguing with a vendor about the legality of stipping down pmags to bring back to CA. 49er jacket and pants hangin down to his knees. It wasn't pretty.

Please don't make a scene if you are rejected. Cash is king.

Do a big quick sweep before you buy cause prices vary from rooms.
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ive been to many small shows and carried a rifle or two i wanted to sell with a sign on them is that ok in reno
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ive been to many small shows and carried a rifle or two i wanted to sell with a sign on them is that ok in reno

no prices on sign allowed the guards are adamant about that
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The bald guy with the tubs is Ronning. In the back left of the big room is Big Jim 6'6'',16 tables good stuff, he is out of Oakdale, a good guy to know.
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If a CA vendor sells at the Reno gun show... do they still need to collect sales tax?
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Random question: will I be able to find Duracoat, Alumahyde, Gunkote, etc at the Reno show? The Crossroads shows here have not had anything that I could find in these departments....
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  1. When should I line up Friday morning to get in?
  2. Is it better to buy tickets in advance or at the door?
  3. What major vendors are the best bet for finding reloading supplies?
  4. Is there a big booth or vendor that is known to sell milsurp stuff (Ammo/mags/C&R guns)?
  5. Has the show been know to have pick-pocketing problems? I figure I'd be carrying a good amount of cash.
  6. How long does it take to make a complete "round" in the show and see every booth (on average)
  7. If I bought a C&R gun on say Friday where is a safe place to keep it? Do people carry them with them or do they leave them inside the hotel room?
  8. What other stops are "musts" when I leave Reno? I figure I'd stop in at Cabelas at least. (I'm mostly into C&R)
  9. Any other tips/pointers you can think of?
1. Get in line by 8:30am. 8am is even better and gives you time to sip your triple venti mocha with whipped cream from the Starbucks inside the GSR.
2. Doesn't matter much. There's a small discount coupon that you can find online that may save you a few bucks. I get the three day pass because I live here.
3. Miwall has some reloading crap, but there are other smaller vendors that should have what you need.
4. Milsurp stuff is all over the place. Second room is your best bet. John from Morgan Hill CA no longer shows up at the Big Reno Show. I hope he's OK, but he was getting elderly. He was one of the better C&R/milsurp dealers.
5. Yes, they're called 'casinos'. Keep your money in your front pocket if you're worried. I'd also not keep it in one big wad in case you're thinking about haggling over prices.
6. Two hours minimum.
7. Hotel room closet is safe enough. So is your car if you valet park it at the GSR.
8. Spend your remaining money at the casinos, please. There is also Scheel's to the East on I-80, Cabela's to the west on I-80, and US Firearms Academy on Moana Lane. USFA has better than show prices, actually. It's an EBR emporium.
9. Valet your car at the GSR unless you like carrying a hundred pounds of ammo down a long steep hill to the parking lot. Bring a foldable wheelie cart if you have one. Show-goers always swarm the ammo sellers first, and there's a Miwall booth in each room. Start your tour with the far room. Spend lots of money. Eat at Johnny Rockets instead of the GSR's hotdog stand. Don't speed crossing the NV/CA state line because the CHP are jerks and Nevada lets the CHP pull you over in NV if your moving violation occurred in California.
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Random question: will I be able to find Duracoat, Alumahyde, Gunkote, etc at the Reno show? The Crossroads shows here have not had anything that I could find in these departments....
Guy in room #1 usually has a selection of Duracoat for sale.
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If a CA vendor sells at the Reno gun show... do they still need to collect sales tax?
A CA vendor such as Miwall will collect NV sales tax but not CA sales tax. The payment on use tax for the items you bring back into CA is on you.
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Cash talks when haggling a price. Avoid using a credit card if you can. A credit card requires producing ID. ID makes you from CA. Cash makes you from the USA.
^^^ This.

It's hard for first-timers not to look like they're from CA. Pretty soon, you learn the 'neutral' style of dress.

Here's why Californians get treated like used food at the Big Reno Show:

1. Some guys are just jerks who like to bag on Californians. Y'all's queers and whutnot.

2. Many table vendors resent wasting a lot of time talking to some Californian who was all ready to buy a big ticket item, then disappointed a moment later when the vendor realized he couldn't lawfully sell the item to them. It happens several times a day to everyone selling something that's restricted in CA. Sellers also don't like repeating themselves to some dipwit from the East Bay who get all resentful at the innocent table vendor over CA's stupid laws about putting a 30-round mag on their SKS. It's not their fault; go look in a mirror.

3. As a result of the lost sales to the Caltards who have to be read the riot act, many vendors resolve to make every other Californian that they can sell to pay full retail price for what items they're allowed to buy. Therefore, you don't want to be taken for a mark. Try not to identify yourself as a Californian. If you look like a prissyboy and can't help it, tell them you're from Utah and pay cash.

4. At best, many vendors at the show typically see Californians as the drooling kid wearing a crash helmet riding in the back of the short bus -- A drooling helmeted kid with hyper-rich parents, that is. All of this is based solely on the fact that you're a Californian who lives where politicians say what size your plasma TV can be, how your black car is causing global warming, and where the police charge you with a felony for scaring a seagull near a protected wetlands, not least that you don't have any gun show money because your retarded steroid-shooting governor can't pay your state income tax refund because they spent it all on the illegal Mexicans who broke into your house while you're away at the gun show. To them, you're just a plain old sappy idiot, and probably a lib'rul who smokes salvia while driving. It would be morally repugnant to let someone like that who probably drove here in a Mercedes M-class SUV go home with his money intact.

If I were you, I'd get some Wrangler jeans and a University of Nevada 'Wolfpack' pullover sweatshirt before you go inside the show. Pay in cash.

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Can someone substantiate that they don't sell powder at the show? If so, of the other stores nearby, Scheel, USFA, or others, what are their powder prices? Since I made the trip to NV, I figured I just paid for the Haz Mat fees!

Keep the info flowing - this is good stuff.
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^^^ This.

It's hard for first-timers not to look like they're from CA. Pretty soon, you learn the 'neutral' style of dress.

Here's why Californians get treated like used food at the Big Reno Show:

1. Some guys are just jerks who like to bag on Californians. Y'all's queers and whutnot.

2. Many table vendors resent wasting a lot of time talking to some Californian who was all ready to buy a big ticket item, then disappointed a moment later when the vendor realized he couldn't lawfully sell the item to them. It happens several times a day to everyone selling something that's restricted in CA. Sellers also don't like repeating themselves to some dipwit from the East Bay who get all resentful at the innocent table vendor over CA's stupid laws about putting a 30-round mag on their SKS. It's not their fault; go look in a mirror.

3. As a result of the lost sales to the Caltards who have to be read the riot act, many vendors resolve to make every other Californian that they can sell to pay full retail price for what items they're allowed to buy. Therefore, you don't want to be taken for a mark. Try not to identify yourself as a Californian. If you look like a prissyboy and can't help it, tell them you're from Utah and pay cash.

4. At best, many vendors at the show typically see Californians as the drooling kid wearing a crash helmet riding in the back of the short bus -- A drooling helmeted kid with hyper-rich parents, that is. All of this is based solely on the fact that you're a Californian who lives where politicians say what size your plasma TV can be, how your black car is causing global warming, and where the police charge you with a felony for scaring a seagull near a protected wetlands, not least that you don't have any gun show money because your retarded steroid-shooting governor can't pay your state income tax refund because they spent it all on the illegal Mexicans who broke into your house while you're away at the gun show. To them, you're just a plain old sappy idiot, and probably a lib'rul who smokes salvia while driving. It would be morally repugnant to let someone like that who probably drove here in a Mercedes M-class SUV go home with his money intact.

If I were you, I'd get some Wrangler jeans and a University of Nevada 'Wolfpack' pullover sweatshirt before you go inside the show. Pay in cash.
thats some good sheet Cowboy. Haaa haaa...Utah.... LOL

You working the show this weekend? Mind giving a play by play of Friday this year?

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If you make it to Reno you've got to hit Cabelas, and they have powder.

My family raised honeybees, and I spent my summers in NV on the alfalfa ranches, so I fit right in and have never been accused of being form CA.
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I've always been able to score my best deals on Sunday afternoon. Yeah, you risk not finding what you want b/c the item has been sold, but it's harder to negotiate earlier on in the show.
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haha, he said Caltards.
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haha, he said Caltards.
i roffled at that too.
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You working the show this weekend? Mind giving a play by play of Friday this year?

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I will be first in the door when they open, spend an hour inside, then go to work where I can post a quicklook wrapup.

If anyone has special requests on information/pricing/availability they'd like me to relate, post them here. I'd be happy to help.
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Old 04-16-2009, 9:55 AM
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^^^ This.

It's hard for first-timers not to look like they're from CA. Pretty soon, you learn the 'neutral' style of dress.

Here's why Californians get treated like used food at the Big Reno Show:

1. Some guys are just jerks who like to bag on Californians. Y'all's queers and whutnot.

2. Many table vendors resent wasting a lot of time talking to some Californian who was all ready to buy a big ticket item, then disappointed a moment later when the vendor realized he couldn't lawfully sell the item to them. It happens several times a day to everyone selling something that's restricted in CA. Sellers also don't like repeating themselves to some dipwit from the East Bay who get all resentful at the innocent table vendor over CA's stupid laws about putting a 30-round mag on their SKS. It's not their fault; go look in a mirror.

3. As a result of the lost sales to the Caltards who have to be read the riot act, many vendors resolve to make every other Californian that they can sell to pay full retail price for what items they're allowed to buy. Therefore, you don't want to be taken for a mark. Try not to identify yourself as a Californian. If you look like a prissyboy and can't help it, tell them you're from Utah and pay cash.

4. At best, many vendors at the show typically see Californians as the drooling kid wearing a crash helmet riding in the back of the short bus -- A drooling helmeted kid with hyper-rich parents, that is. All of this is based solely on the fact that you're a Californian who lives where politicians say what size your plasma TV can be, how your black car is causing global warming, and where the police charge you with a felony for scaring a seagull near a protected wetlands, not least that you don't have any gun show money because your retarded steroid-shooting governor can't pay your state income tax refund because they spent it all on the illegal Mexicans who broke into your house while you're away at the gun show. To them, you're just a plain old sappy idiot, and probably a lib'rul who smokes salvia while driving. It would be morally repugnant to let someone like that who probably drove here in a Mercedes M-class SUV go home with his money intact.

If I were you, I'd get some Wrangler jeans and a University of Nevada 'Wolfpack' pullover sweatshirt before you go inside the show. Pay in cash.
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At best, many vendors at the show typically see Californians as the drooling kid wearing a crash helmet riding in the back of the short bus- not least that you don't have any gun show money because your retarded steroid-shooting governor can't pay your state income tax refund because they spent it all on the illegal Mexicans who broke into your house while you're away at the gun show. To them, you're just a plain old sappy idiot, and probably a lib'rul who smokes salvia while driving.
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Do you think asking about U15 stocks, and Bullet Buttons might give away the fact your from CA??
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The guns, parts, ammo, stuff, etc.. isn't cheaper in Reno. Yea, the laws are better but you're not going to save any money by driving all the way there. They will have is LOTS and LOTS of everything at full retail prices because the show is so big.
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Old 04-16-2009, 9:16 PM
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The guns, parts, ammo, stuff, etc.. isn't cheaper in Reno. Yea, the laws are better but you're not going to save any money by driving all the way there. They will have is LOTS and LOTS of everything at full retail prices because the show is so big.
One more time (Plastic baggie deal for $25.00 included one "complete"mystery LPK, one "new" A2 grip and one DPMS 10 round AR mag) and same show one DC Engineering SKS mag and one late 60's USGI Colt M16A1 Aluminium mag both for $20.00 if you cant find good deals there then no don't go
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:10 PM
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I drove up today and am currently staying at the GSR. I'll be waking up around 7:30 or so to stand in line so I'll update you all later in the day how the show is for those who are comming up Friday night or Saturday.

Like another member said there are a few places on the 80 where they are doing construction so figure that delay into the drive.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:18 PM
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I will be there Iam a NV resident so iam safe stop at scheels and buy a wolf pack t shirt and blend in.Dont use a credit card i watched a CA resident get denied at the Crossroads show because the see id written on his card.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:19 PM
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Look at all tables before making a purchase i saw P-Mags vary in price up to ten bucks at the last show.
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