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So where do you go in cali to get one of these lowers???
If you search on here there is a lot of info on how to make one of the CA legal pistols.

But the short version is either find someone out of state that sells a 'single shot' AR Pistol (it will then be exempt from the handgun roster), then once you have the gun here it's legal to modify it any way you want, such as making it semi-auto (with a bullet button, EVEN if it's a rimfire).

The other way is to buy an 80% lower (http://www.ar15plus.com/) and make one yourself (and it also needs a bullet button). But be warned, it's a relatively simple thing to do, IF you have the right equipment and at least a little experience working/machining metal.

You just have to remember that you can NEVER sell or transfer that receiver and it can never have a stock put on it.

So it's easy, but it's not easy all at the same time. It also pretty expensive for a gun that doesn't have too many practical uses (says the guy with two AR pistols).
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If anyone has, I'm interested in a used 7.5" flat top pistol upper, new would be fine as well. I'll take it in almost any form but it doesn't need to have grips, flash hider, charging handle or bolt carrier group.

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[QUOTE=pacrimguru;2200101]updated pistol pics. i had the barrel shortened so that the kx-3 sinks back under the handguard a bit.


Very Nice, what's the specs on your pistol? Looking to build one after I sold my Professional Ordinance pistol way back. Whole lot of fun. What does it cost to build one like yours if you don't mind me asking.

Great looking pistol, just the right proportions I think, all the way around.
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updated pistol pics. i had the barrel shortened so that the kx-3 sinks back under the handguard a bit.
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Very Nice, what's the specs on your pistol? Looking to build one after I sold my Professional Ordinance pistol way back. Whole lot of fun. What does it cost to build one like yours if you don't mind me asking.

Great looking pistol, just the right proportions I think, all the way around.
thanks guys. here are even more updated pics of the pistol as it is now. i added the magpul MBUS sights. those other "updated" pics were actually taken a little while back.







the pistol's specs are:
- model 1 sales upper
- mega pistol lower
- 6.5" barrel
- VTAC Carbine tube
- Noveske KX-3
- Magpul MBUS
- Daniel Defense Sling Mount
- Spike's Tactical Pistol Buffer Tube
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Why do you need a bullet button on a pistol AR? I've never seen a BB on a pistol before...
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From what I remember reading it is because the magazine is not in the grip, and on a pistol a detachable magazine has to be inserted into the grip to be legal here. Since this state defines a fixed magazine as one that requires a tool to remove, installing a bullet button means it no longer is capable of accepting a detachable magazine outside of the grip and thus is legal...or so the current popular interpretation of the law goes.

If I am wrong please correct me. I am by no means an expert on pistol ARs.

There is a flow chart showing what is and is not allowed on pistol ARs somewhere here. Do a search for it and you will learn all you need to know. Discussing it here is kind of hijacking the thread, since people want to see pictures here...and learn about the law there. Not trying to be rude, just trying to avoid being flamed by other members.

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From what I remember reading it is because the magazine is not in the grip, and on a pistol a detachable magazine has to be inserted into the grip to be legal here. Since this state defines a fixed magazine as one that requires a tool to remove, installing a bullet button means it no longer is capable of accepting a detachable magazine outside of the grip and thus is legal...or so the current popular interpretation of the law goes.

If I am wrong please correct me. I am by no means an expert on pistol ARs.

There is a flow chart showing what is and is not allowed on pistol ARs somewhere here. Do a search for it and you will learn all you need to know. Discussing it here is kind of hijacking the thread, since people want to see pictures here...and learn about the law there. Not trying to be rude, just trying to avoid being flamed by other members.
You are correct. Since the magazine is outside of the pistol grip then you have to jump through all the hoops just like you would building an AR rifle.

The upside of this is that once you put the BB in, you also don't have to worry about all the other CA restrictions on what is 'legal' for a handgun, such as a threaded barrel.

The BB rule also applies to rimfire in the case of pistols (where they are exempt from all the BS on a rifle). This is do to the slightly different wording in the laws. With regard to rifles, the law makes a clear difference between a center-fire and a rim-fire, but when it comes to pistols, that important differentiation is missing, hence I have a BB on my .22 AR pistol.
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One more pic of my mega pistol. I want to buy a 22lr bolt and carrier for it eventually.
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thanks guys. here are even more updated pics of the pistol as it is now. i added the magpul MBUS sights. those other "updated" pics were actually taken a little while back.









the pistol's specs are:
- model 1 sales upper
- mega pistol lower
- 6.5" barrel
- VTAC Carbine tube
- Noveske KX-3
- Magpul MBUS
- Daniel Defense Sling Mount
- Spike's Tactical Pistol Buffer Tube
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i sell them. they are currently sold out, but i have other designs in stock right now. the break yo'self ones will be restocked in about a week. thanks!

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and the AKs are great looking asd well
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Just finished tonight. Three weeks after finding out about AR pistols, here it is.

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The new lady of the house.

RRA pistol lower
Sundevil upper
7.5" barrel w/ Noveske kx3
VLTOR CASV-MT
VLTOR lp gas block
VLTOR front sight
ARMS rear 40lp
CMMG .22 conversion kit
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RRA pistol lower
Sundevil upper
7.5" barrel w/ Noveske kx3
VLTOR CASV-MT
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CMMG .22 conversion kit
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The .22 conversion is just the bcg correct? Do you have a cap in place of where the buffer tube is supposed to go? would it still fire .22 without a cap there? i ask cuz i want to shoot .22lr without the buffertube, but dont have a cap for the area where the tube screws in (spikes tactical sells one but is sold out).... Will it work without that cap?

Btw that looks SHAWEET!!
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I personally wouldn't fire the gun without the cap in place. The cap and butt plate need to be installed so the takedown detent, spring and takedown pin are held in place not to mention it unsafe to have the bcg rear open even though its held in place by contact of the upper/rear portion of the bcg to the lower, all it takes is one incident and your lights would be out.

In the photo the rear cap was not installed, its at the machine shop being anodized. If anyone is interested I am thinking of making some extra butt caps for the .22 AR pistol conversions. They will be low profile, very similar to the Sig P556 pistol butt caps but will be able to be installed and removed very easily unlike the P556's cap.
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I personally wouldn't fire the gun without the cap in place. The cap and butt plate need to be installed so the takedown detent, spring and takedown pin are held in place not to mention it unsafe to have the bcg rear open even though its held in place by contact of the upper/rear portion of the bcg to the lower, all it takes is one incident and your lights would be out.

In the photo the rear cap was not installed, its at the machine shop being anodized. If anyone is interested I am thinking of making some extra butt caps for the .22 AR pistol conversions. They will be low profile, very similar to the Sig P556 pistol butt caps but will be able to be installed and removed very easily unlike the P556's cap.
Very interested on the caps
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My ar pistol when it came in:


My AR Pistol now (parts put together by those at OC Armory )




Thanks to Freakshow and OC Armory for making this possiblel

Specs:
-Complete pistol was bought from:
http://www.chesterarmsllc.com/AR15_Pistol.html
-Anvil Arms "registered pistol" marked lower with Bullet Button
-Bravo Company USA upper receiver (to replace the original A2 upper with a flat top upper)
- 7.5in barrel with YHM Flash hider
- MIAD grip and Magpul PMAG 10/30
- TROY industries MRF-C rail system
- Buffer tube looks to be from Model 1 sales (foam bought from bike shop)

Still feels a little rough, need to really smooth it out by breaking it in some.. Will hit the range my next day off


Any tips for me on where to keep it nice and wet before i hit the range? feels real dry, i already wet it in the 'moving' parts areas
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I'm working on it

YellowLogic billet60% with the custom EDM single shot sled


Broke two 1/8th bits, yes they were fun to get out


Not the greatest machining but....it all fits!


Pistol lower is now complete and upper is on the way
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Psssniper..... man thats a long way to go with that lower....nice though!!!! I'm over the 80% thing. Glad I did it. I ordered a bunch before the last ATF ruling.

I made 4 special ones engraved with my lastname...I gave em to my Dad. He kept one and gifted the rest to my little bros...5yrs, 3yrs, and 10mo....take that Obama!!
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Hey guys, i'll be hitting the range for the first time with my pistol shortly, but my pistol came to me bone dry. What should be lubed up plenty before i go? (i only have CLP)

What about buffer spring and tube? anything in there to lube?
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How about an Addax GPU 10.5" AR Pistol Upper...

We are going to start building these in approx. 2 weeks, just waiting on some 10.5" barrels to arrive.

We are also looking at possibly building a 7.5" barreled version, but that is going to take some time to develop.



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My ar pistol when it came in:


My AR Pistol now (parts put together by those at OC Armory )
Thanks to Freakshow and OC Armory for making this possiblel

Specs:
-Complete pistol was bought from:
http://www.chesterarmsllc.com/AR15_Pistol.html
-Anvil Arms "registered pistol" marked lower with Bullet Button
-Bravo Company USA upper receiver (to replace the original A2 upper with a flat top upper)
- 7.5in barrel with YHM Flash hider
- MIAD grip and Magpul PMAG 10/30
- TROY industries MRF-C rail system
- Buffer tube looks to be from Model 1 sales (foam bought from bike shop)

Still feels a little rough, need to really smooth it out by breaking it in some.. Will hit the range my next day off


Any tips for me on where to keep it nice and wet before i hit the range? feels real dry, i already wet it in the 'moving' parts areas

Nice job, that looks great.
Im going to go the same Freakshow route but I figure I let him catch up a bit.

CLP, just hoser down and it will come out where it doesn't want to be.

I like to use grease on the carrier to upper reciever slides. How does it feel with out the buffer and spring in? Mine felt rought till I shot it a few hundred rounds.

have a blast.

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Cobra you need a few of these...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=154459

Addax 10.5 upper...
http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/...idproduct=1095



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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=154459

Addax 10.5 upper...
http://www.adxtactical.com/store/pc/...idproduct=1095



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Went to the range last friday with my pistol, very fun

I got it sighted in at about 40-50 yrds, i want it to have an effective range of 100 yards, so should i re-sight it in? at what range should i sight it in to be effective up to 100 yrds?
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Went to the range last friday with my pistol, very fun

I got it sighted in at about 40-50 yrds, i want it to have an effective range of 100 yards, so should i re-sight it in? at what range should i sight it in to be effective up to 100 yrds?
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