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Old 02-08-2018, 8:57 AM
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Search for 'casino' and 'indian casino' came up with nothing for SB.
What are the rules for carrying or storage out at San Manuel Casino?
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I carry in San Manuel, as corny as it is... concealed is concealed. You're not breaking any law, but if they see you they'll probably ask you to leave. Indian reservations in California defer to state gun laws.
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Due to Federal laws (PL 83-280), the CA Penal Code applies to Tribal lands located within California.

Therefore...

It is CA legal to have a handgun in a not in plain sight locked container in your vehicle.
It is CA legal to have an unloaded long gun in your vehicle.

With a valid CA LTC permit, it is CA legal to conceal carry on an indian reservation (indian casino).
However, if discovered carrying, you can/will be asked to leave the reservation.
^Failure to comply, can result in an arrest for trespassing and them contacting your issuing agency.
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Thanks everyone.
Not going there to gamble but the new BBQ place sounds interesting.
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Just remember, if the San Bernardino County Sheriff is involved you will have to report the contact to your IA, which may not be pleased that you carried in a place in which alcohol was served; worse so if you actually had been imbibing. If you are going there for the BBQ, you best not drink.

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Just remember, if the San Bernardino County Sheriff is involved you will have to report the contact to your IA, which may not be pleased that you carried in a place in which alcohol was served; worse so if you actually had been imbibing. If you are going there for the BBQ, you best not drink.
Fully aware of the process and requirement for reporting to IA.

Won't be drinking that is for sure.
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If you are fully aware then good for you. Then you know whether or not you are required to report contact should a tribal PSO ask you to leave and you do so without argument.
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If you are fully aware then good for you. Then you know whether or not you are required to report contact should a tribal PSO ask you to leave and you do so without argument.
What is your problem?
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Just had my interview this morning. Told me it would be 4-6 months. It could be sooner but I believe they say this so that applicants would not flood their phones with calls about the status of their application.
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Just had my interview this morning. Told me it would be 4-6 months. It could be sooner but I believe they say this so that applicants would not flood their phones with calls about the status of their application.
You may be right - my timeline is:

application 10-18-17
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range date 2-17-18

Considering the holidays, it would seem they're still processing fairly fast.
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You may be right - my timeline is:

application 10-18-17
interview 12-1-17 (early appt due to cancellation)
redo livescan 12-13-17
clear background 2-2-18
range date 2-17-18

Considering the holidays, it would seem they're still processing fairly fast.

Thanks for the info! you are lucky you got an early appointment. I had my appointment set back in July for today and was trying to get something sooner. My only concern right now is that i'll be out of town almost all of April. Hope I can get a range date next month or at the very least a phone call before I leave. Do you know the number they reached you from so I can save it on my phone?
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Got 2 phone calls - missed the 1st one. They came from 909-387-3750 (the SBSD HR line) and from 909-387-5000 (SBSD main line). Should probably expect anything from a 909-387-XXXX number. Good luck.

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Got 2 phone calls - missed the 1st one. They came from 909-387-3750 (the SBSD HR line) and from 909-387-5000 (SBSD main line). Should probably expect anything from a 909-387-XXXX number. Good luck.
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Seems to be going fast. Interview 01/22/2018, cleared back ground 02/02/2018 and range set for 02/17/2018. See you there.
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Seems to be going fast. Interview 01/22/2018, cleared back ground 02/02/2018 and range set for 02/17/2018. See you there.
Wow! That's the fastest I've seen go thro here - good for you! Yeah, see you Saturday - and welcome to the forum!
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Glad to hear they are catching up. Most of us a year or two ago were 13 months from app to class, sounds like they've at least cut it in half.
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I have questions regarding the instructions for first time applicants for San Bernardino CCW.
B. ORIGINAL (plus one copy) of the following (NO EXCEPTIONS or you will have to
reschedule):
1. California Driverís License OR current active military ID and original state ID
2. County certified Birth Certificate or Naturalization papers/certificate
3. Utility bill with your name and service address (phone bills, cable bills, and past
due bills will not be accepted)
4. Current property tax bill, Grant Deed or Rental Agreement in your name
5. Marriage certificate (for each marriage)
6. Military discharge DD214 form, including discharge status

Do I need multiple of these items listed cause I will probably only be able to provide numbers 1 and 3. And 2 if its simply asking for my original birth certificate.
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Old 02-17-2018, 9:22 PM
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I have questions regarding the instructions for first time applicants for San Bernardino CCW.
B. ORIGINAL (plus one copy) of the following (NO EXCEPTIONS or you will have to
reschedule):
1. California Driverís License OR current active military ID and original state ID
2. County certified Birth Certificate or Naturalization papers/certificate
3. Utility bill with your name and service address (phone bills, cable bills, and past
due bills will not be accepted)
4. Current property tax bill, Grant Deed or Rental Agreement in your name
5. Marriage certificate (for each marriage)
6. Military discharge DD214 form, including discharge status

Do I need multiple of these items listed cause I will probably only be able to provide numbers 1 and 3. And 2 if its simply asking for my original birth certificate.
If you've never been married or in the service you can forget about 5 & 6.

If your original birth certificate is certified with the country seal embossed in the paper you are good with that one. If it's not certified you'll need to get one from the county you were born in.

You will need to provide proof that you live in San Bernardino county. To do this you will need to provide a utility bill not more than 3 months old (though I could be wrong on how old it can be).

If you're a renter you'll need your rental agreement. If you're a home owner you can use either your tax bill our your mortgage bill.

If you haven't applied I would recommend that you do that first. You will have several months to get all your paperwork together.

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If you've never been married or in the service you can forget about 5 & 6.

If your original birth certificate is certified with the country seal embossed in the paper you are good with that one. If it's not certified you'll need to get one from the county you were born in.

You will need to provide proof that you live in San Bernardino county. To do this you will need to provide a utility bill not more than 3 months old (though I could be wrong on how old it can be).

If you're a renter you'll need your rental agreement. If you're a home owner you can use either your tax bill our your mortgage bill.

If you haven't applied I would recommend that you do that first. You will have several months to get all your paperwork together.

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I have applied I just wanted to make sure I do everything correct.
As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
And to clarify, I absolutely need 1,2,3 and 4 at the same time, right?
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I have applied I just wanted to make sure I do everything correct.
As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
And to clarify, I absolutely need 1,2,3 and 4 at the same time, right?
Correct.

Though if you're still living at home I'm not sure what you're going to need as proof of residency.

I'll send you a pm with Sarah's number. Call her on Monday and explain to her that you live at home and ask her what you'll need to provide for proof of residency.

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Correct.

Though if you're still living at home I'm not sure what you're going to need as proof of residency.

I'll send you a pm with Sarah's number. Call here on Monday and explain to her that you live at home and ask her what you'll need to provide for proof of residency.

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Thank you for the help, and as for my birth certificate I don't think it has a county seal, it just has a seal for the City of Houston Texas
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Thank you for the help, and as for my birth certificate I don't think it has a county seal, it just has a seal for the City of Houston Texas
That may work. Tell Sarah that too when you talk with her.

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As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
Have your father create a rental agreement.
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As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here.
Are you planning to move soon?
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I have applied I just wanted to make sure I do everything correct.
As for the Renter's Agreement/tax bill, I currently am a living in my father's house while I am taking some classes near here. I do not pay rent or anything.
And to clarify, I absolutely need 1,2,3 and 4 at the same time, right?
I'm not saying this won't work for you, but when I did my interview back in November the first thing the guy asked was if I lived at home with my parents (likely due to my age, 26). I don't, but he proceeded to say that so many younger applicants try to apply while they still live at home. I think he was implying that they either won't or don't like approving applicants that live with their parents. Just a heads up for you.
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I submitted an application to San Bernardino Sheriff's but the next available appointment is not until March 2018. Too long! I called and cancelled and submitted an application to Ontario PD.

Talked to an investigator and he will call me in a week or two for an interview appointment. Said it shouldn't be as long because they don't get as many applications as SB.

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morrcarr67 guess he left us in limbo as to the outcome.
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Question regarding residence history and employment history. What if I can't legitimately remember the information?

Example 1: for work I lived in a house for about 6 months, before moving back home, which was 10-15 years ago. So I don't remember the address.

Example 2: I had two clerical jobs in different medical offices 15-20 years ago, I don't remember the employer name or contact information, it's been so long.

Example 3: in my last job, before my current job, the corporate office moved location, and changed contact information. I do not know their current information.

How would I address this on the application and employment history form?

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Question regarding residence history and employment history. What if I can't legitimately remember the information?

Example 1: for work I lived in a house for about 6 months, before moving back home, which was 10-15 years ago. So I don't remember the address.

Example 2: I had two clerical jobs in different medical offices 15-20 years ago, I don't remember the employer name or contact information, it's been so long.

Example 3: in my last job, before my current job, the corporate office moved location, and changed contact information. I do not know their current information.

How would I address this on the application and employment history form?

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Just answer with as much info as you can. Maybe do a little research between now and your interview date.
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Question regarding residence history and employment history. What if I can't legitimately remember the information?

Example 1: for work I lived in a house for about 6 months, before moving back home, which was 10-15 years ago. So I don't remember the address.

Example 2: I had two clerical jobs in different medical offices 15-20 years ago, I don't remember the employer name or contact information, it's been so long.

Example 3: in my last job, before my current job, the corporate office moved location, and changed contact information. I do not know their current information.

How would I address this on the application and employment history form?

Thanks for your help.
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Just answer with as much info as you can. Maybe do a little research between now and your interview date.
If I remember correctly they are only asking you to go back 10 years on work history and addresses. So I wouldn't even worry about those old addresses and jobs.

As 38 said do some research. Google is your friend.
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If I remember correctly they are only asking you to go back 10 years on work history and addresses. So I wouldn't even worry about those old addresses and jobs.
What he said.

They only want info from 10 years ago.
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If I remember correctly they are only asking you to go back 10 years on work history and addresses. So I wouldn't even worry about those old addresses and jobs.

As 38 said do some research. Google is your friend.
You can also request an employment history from Social Security.
It's not free, but it will give more specific details on dates and employers.
You can get a pretty generic report for free, but it's really not detailed enough for this.

For employers that have moved or no longer exist, I provided address/contact information as of when I worked there, with a note that they are no longer in business or have relocated and provided last known information.
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Seems to be going fast. Interview 01/22/2018, cleared back ground 02/02/2018 and range set for 02/17/2018. See you there.
That is hard to believe. I had my interview just a few days after you on 1/26/2018, and I havenít heard a thing? They also told me at my interview to expect 3-6 months for the background to clear, what did they tell you?
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That is hard to believe. I had my interview just a few days after you on 1/26/2018, and I havenít heard a thing? They also told me at my interview to expect 3-6 months for the background to clear, what did they tell you?
I think 3-6 months is the safe answer they give.
Has your employment info been returned?
Most delays are the employment forms.
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Has your employment info been returned?
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That must be my hold up. I have my current employer Finally sending back in my from after about a 3 week delay. Iíve been at my current for 5 years, do they send anything to past employers?
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That must be my hold up. I have my current employer Finally sending back in my from after about a 3 week delay. Iíve been at my current for 5 years, do they send anything to past employers?
No, just current.

The only reason I can see that they would contact past employers might be if they didn't get a "warm fuzzy" from the current employer, or perhaps if current employment were only a few months.
I would imagine that would come in the form of a phone call. Current employer just gets the form letter.
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Gates closed at 18000 Institution road. Guess we canít qualify when the roads are wet?
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Gates closed at 18000 Institution road. Guess we can’t qualify when the roads are wet?
Some of those roads are not passable in the rain.
Was there any signage about a detour? A number to call?

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It seems there was another way in through the track homes (back way in). The main entrance road was flooded.. it is now clear and gates are open.. Thanks .38
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It seems there was another way in through the track homes (back way in). The main entrance road was flooded.. it is now clear and gates are open.. Thanks .38
That fire road through Rosena Ranch is normally locked. The main road in is a nightmare even when dry!!
Were you able to get to class?
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