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Old 12-04-2017, 2:52 PM
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Default California "FFL 03 Friendly" Ammunition Dealers starting 1/1/18

I've been trying to sift through all the discussions to compile a current list of which vendors will be supporting FFL 03 / COE holders here in California.

Kudos to BennyAdeline for starting a similar thread in the General Gun Discussion. His tread title Ammo ban action plan for those of us with 03 FFL and COE didn't seem to address specifically a listing but sort of evolved into it.

Keep in mind I have not personally confirmed the validity of each vendor which is why I linked the Calgunner's thread who did. I'll try to keep this list updated as I sort through more. Feel free to add any you have confirmed to this discussion. Also please feel free to update if any on this list should not be there or have changed their policy.


Aim Surplus (confirmed by ghostrider)

American Marksman (confirmed by lweinlan)

ammo.com/ (confirmed by lweinlan)

AmmoForSale.com (confirmed by lweinlan)

Ammoman (confirmed by Tacticaldad)

Ammomen LLC (confirmed by Andy292)

Ammo Supply Warehouse (confirmed by BennyAdeline)

Ammunition to Go (confirmed by cheifhwt217)

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Bone Frog Gun Club (confirmed by BennyAdeline)

Brownells (confirmed by Sig so sour of ca and lweinlan)

Buffalo Bore Ammunition (confirmed by DontWorryScro)

BulkAmmo.com (confirmed by Rob Jones)

Bullet Barn (confirmed by Skypass307)

DoubleTap Ammunition (confirmed by 97F1504RAD)

Extreme Reloading (confirmed by extremeventures)

Freedom Munitions (confirmed by SonOfaDI)

Georgia Arms (confirmed by PatC415)

J&G Sales (confirmed by jeffsenpai and SonOfaDI)

Lucky Gunner(confirmed by Rob Jones)

Midsouth Shooter Supply (confirmed by noozeyeguy)

Octane Munitions (confirmed by Skypass307)

Outdoor Limited (confirmed by lweinlan)

Palmetto State Armory (confirmed by BennyAdeline)

Peak Performance Ammunition (confirmed by Skypass307)

Prepper Gun Shop (confirmed by PrepperGunShop)

Prime Ammunition (confirmed by fawndog)

Selway Armory (confirmed by lweinlan)

Sniper Central (confirmed by Wlee)

Southern Ohio Gun (confirmed by delfino)

surplusammo.com (confirmed by arrowshooter)

TargetSportsUSA (confirmed by BennyAdeline and Cortelli)

United Nations Ammo Company (confirmed by joefrank64k)

Underwood Ammo (confirmed by tracy9676)

Ventura Munitions (confirmed by lweinlan)

White Birch Armory (confirmed by DontWorryScro)

Wideners (confirmed by Harleymrc)

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J&G Sales will be honoring C&R + COE, plainly stated on their facebook account.
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A few months back Midway USA seemed to imply they would ship. I already sent them my documents to attach to my account. Might be worth a followup
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What's the ffl fee for excepting out of state ammo purchase?
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Old 12-09-2017, 12:16 PM
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Nice! Thanks for helping spread the word
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What's the ffl fee for excepting out of state ammo purchase?
I doubt that the FFL's service fee (or ammo vendor's service fee) for facilitating out of state purchases will be limited by the state. In any case, there are no regulations yet released and nothing in the law that specifies this, at this time.
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Thanks for the list.
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Angry No joy from Freedom Munitions

I had sent an inquiry asking if they would be shipping to FFL + COE holders.

This was their reply:
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http://dealers.howellmunitionsandtec...rProgram.html”
I told them I wasn't about to spend the money on an ammo permit, plus pay the (in)convenience fee to my LGS, just so I could buy their ammo.
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I had sent an inquiry asking if they would be shipping to FFL + COE holders.

This was their reply:


I told them I wasn't about to spend the money on an ammo permit, plus pay the (in)convenience fee to my LGS, just so I could buy their ammo.
I got this answer:

Brenda A (Freedom Munitions)

Dec 20, 05:53 PST
While the law does allow for certain exemptions, our system does not - yet. We are working on new functionality that will allow us to ship directly in certain situations, but we do not have an expected date for that to be available. We are working on it, but we can't do it just yet.

Thanks for your patience!

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J&G Sales will be honoring C&R + COE, plainly stated on their facebook account.
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J & G Sales added to the list. Thanks for confirming.

Almost time for me to make a few orders to really confirm who is on board and what the process is.

If anyone has already done so please share your experience.
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Confirmed: TargetSportsUSA’s account management screens now allow for an exempt box to be checked and upload of relevant documents to be associated with an individuals account.
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I've been trying to sift through all the discussions to compile a current list of which vendors will be supporting FFL 03 / COE holders here in California.

Kudos to BennyAdeline for starting a similar thread in the General Gun Discussion. His tread title Ammo ban action plan for those of us with 03 FFL and COE didn't seem to address specifically a listing but sort of evolved into it.

Keep in mind I have not personally confirmed the validity of each vendor which is why I linked the Calgunner's thread who did. I'll try to keep this list updated as I sort through more. Feel free to add any you have confirmed to this discussion. Also please feel free to update if any on this list should not be there or have changed their policy.




Ammoman (confirmed by Tacticaldad)

Ammo Supply Warehouse (confirmed by BennyAdeline)

Bone Frog Gun Club (confirmed by BennyAdeline)

BulkAmmo.com (confirmed by Rob Jones)

J&G Sales (confirmed by jeffsenpai and SonOfaDI)

Lucky Gunner(confirmed by Rob Jones)

Palmetto State Armory (confirmed by BennyAdeline)

SGAmmo(confirmed by BennyAdeline)

TargetSportsUSA (confirmed by BennyAdeline and Cortelli)
Please add Aim Surplus to your list of vendors who accept 03 FFL w/COE
***PLEASE NOTE: Beginning January 1, 2018 all sales of ammunition to California must ship to an FFL dealer/ammunition vendor. After Thursday, December 21st, 2017 we will ship ammunition orders only to FFL Dealers and CA State licensed re-sellers of ammunition. The only exceptions:
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A few months back Midway USA seemed to imply they would ship. I already sent them my documents to attach to my account. Might be worth a followup
I sent Midway my FFL 03 and COE and received the following response:

Dear Mike,
Thank you for your response. As of right now the only information we have been told is that we only accept the Type 1 FFLS. We have not been told about any changes for the future yet. If changes are made, our customers will know. I am sorry for the inconvenience, Sir.

If you have any additional questions or comments, please feel free to contact us at 1-800-243-3220. Our hours of operation are Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. CST. You may also email us at customerservice@midwayusa.com.

Thanks for Your Business!
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Has anybody checked with Brownells or Wideners yet? I emailed them both this morning and will post when I receive a reply.
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Has anybody checked with Brownells or Wideners yet? I emailed them both this morning and will post when I receive a reply.
Already heard back from Wideners and they're good to go. This was their response:


"Thank you for thinking of Wideners.com for your ammunition needs.

You can visit www.wideners.com and click on the "Log In" link at the top-right of the page. The left side of that page dusplays "Login or Create and Account" and the blue with white lettering "Create an Account" button leads to https://www.wideners.com/customer/account/create

On that Create and Account page, fill in the brief required information and "Submit".

Once you have your account set up, you may attach and send an image of the C&R type 3 FFL and CoE via email to wideners@wideners.com or fax the documents to 423-815-1348.

Both documents must be valid and in-date and we can only ship to an address that appears on at least 1 of the 2 documents. Note that when an in-date document expires, we must get a new valid copy to continue shipping."
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I checked with Natchez (https://www.natchezss.com/) and it is a no go:

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Dear Sir,

We apologize we are currently unable to bill or ship ammunition to California customer.

Thanks,
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I checked with Natchez (https://www.natchezss.com/) and it is a no go:
Natchez is a chain store. You need to reach someone at Corporate to change policy.

Most likely on the next quarterly profit statement, and they see a decline form sales to California; then someone might raise the issue of selling to FFL03.

But I doubt they are that smart.

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I checked with outdoorlimited (http://www.outdoorlimited.com/Default.asp) and it is a GO:

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Yes we will please send a copy of your FFL03 or Certificate.

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I checked with Natchez (https://www.natchezss.com/) and it is a no go:
Currently - so we need to keep on checking !

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List updated to include Outdoor Limited and Wideners.

Thanks for confirming these!

I also changed the title of this thread and removed "Out of State" since there may eventually be a vendor located in California....

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List updated to include Outdoor Limited and Wideners.

Thanks for confirming these!

I also changed the title of this thread and removed "Out of State" since there may eventually be a vendor located in California....
Great thread !

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Does anybody have a FFL03 in a city where ammo cannot be delivered (i.e. SF, LA)? Will any vendors ship to an alternate address connected to the purchaser?

My FFL03 address is in a city where ammo can't be delivered, but I have an apartment in a city without such restrictions.
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Brownell’s shipped to me. They emailed me a thing saying they can’t ship to ca. The have a dedicated email,for ca sales.

I was busy and forgot to reply. They ended up calling me (super nice customer service) and said to just reply with my 03and coe. They were more concerned with the coe.

Very happy.
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Brownell’s shipped to me. They emailed me a thing saying they can’t ship to ca. The have a dedicated email,for ca sales.

I was busy and forgot to reply. They ended up calling me (super nice customer service) and said to just reply with my 03and coe. They were more concerned with the coe.

Very happy.
Was it after 01/01/18 ?

And factory ammo or reloading ?
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Brownell’s shipped to me. They emailed me a thing saying they can’t ship to ca. The have a dedicated email,for ca sales.

I was busy and forgot to reply. They ended up calling me (super nice customer service) and said to just reply with my 03and coe. They were more concerned with the coe.

Very happy.
Was it after 01/01/18 ?

And factory ammo or reloading ?
I just did chat with a rep on the Brownell's website (01/07/18). It is a go with Brownell's but you will have to call them so that they can set you up (1-800-741-0015). See attached screenshot
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Great

Hopefully Cabelas's jumps in as well !

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The email address that brownells wants info sent to is ammorestrictons@brownells.com

They had me reference my order id# FYI.
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Does anybody have a FFL03 in a city where ammo cannot be delivered (i.e. SF, LA)? Will any vendors ship to an alternate address connected to the purchaser?

My FFL03 address is in a city where ammo can't be delivered, but I have an apartment in a city without such restrictions.
Yes Midway did before the FFL/COE-2018, unsure about if they are shipping to US now.
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Does anybody have a FFL03 in a city where ammo cannot be delivered (i.e. SF, LA)? Will any vendors ship to an alternate address connected to the purchaser?

My FFL03 address is in a city where ammo can't be delivered, but I have an apartment in a city without such restrictions.
I'm in S.F. and had several vendors ship ammo to me last year. I won't mention them here.
I've contacted ALL of them in regards to whether they will continue to ship, and also about alternative addresses not listed on the permit & COE.

Right now, Midaway is NO, and Freedom Munitions is NO.

Waiting patiently for replies.
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I'm in S.F. and had several vendors ship ammo to me last year. I won't mention them here.
I've contacted ALL of them in regards to whether they will continue to ship, and also about alternative addresses not listed on the permit & COE.

Right now, Midaway is NO, and Freedom Munitions is NO.

Waiting patiently for replies.
Thanks for sharing that. I, and I think others, would appreciate an update if you have one.

I have a feeling that someday I'll have to go through the trouble of changing the address on the FFL03.
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Freedom Munitions told me this morning they will NOT ship to "restricted" Ca zip codes even WITH an FFL license, and will NOT ship to addresses other than the one that is on the FFL license.

They have included a new banner on their homepage for "Preferred California Ammunition Vendors," to upload licenses.

I called Customer Service twice, because the first young lady I talked to was clueless about the new CA laws, and directed me to the New Banner, which appears to only be for Ammunition VENDORS in Ca.

Looks like I will no longer be dealing with Freedom Munitions.
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Freedom Munitions told me this morning they will NOT ship to "restricted" Ca zip codes even WITH an FFL license, and will NOT ship to addresses other than the one that is on the FFL license.

They have included a new banner on their homepage for "Preferred California Ammunition Vendors," to upload licenses.

I called Customer Service twice, because the first young lady I talked to was clueless about the new CA laws, and directed me to the New Banner, which appears to only be for Ammunition VENDORS in Ca.

Looks like I will no longer be dealing with Freedom Munitions.
I spoke to them a few days ago and they know of the 03FFL and COE exemption (I first send the a copy per email)

They want to ship to CA (not sure of the restricted area's since I don't live in one - and didn't ask) but at the moment it is a software issue for them

They are gonna 'adjust' it and from that monent they will hip to 03FFL and COE
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Thanks for the info. Unfortunately the Customer Service people I encountered this morning were not as helpful! So we wait...
If you go back to post # 17 you can read a copy of the email they send me as well
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It looks like it is a go with Selway Armory (selwayarmory.com).
Here is the response they emailed me:

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Our legal team is still working through the details on how our policies are going to be going forward regarding CA sales. You can email or fax a copy of your FFL and COE to the contact info below and we will be able to fulfill orders for now. However I do advise that our policies may change regarding CA sales in the future.

email: contact@selwayarmory.com
Fax: 1-406-204-0415

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Amber

Selway Armory
406.351.0156
contact@selwayarmory.com
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Selway added to the list. Thanks lweinlan.

Interesting that they left themselves some wiggle room.

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Glad Ammo Supply Warehouse is on the list, they are good people. If you go to Front Sight, they will bring your ammo to your hotel.
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