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Old 10-06-2017, 1:55 PM
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Default 590A1 Mariner vs 870 Marine Magnum

Ah yes, the classic Remington vs Mossberg debate, here to stoke the fires once again.

http://www.mossberg.com/product/590a...mariner-50777/
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https://www.remington.com/shotguns/p...-marine-magnum

Do any of you own either? What comparisons can you gleam between the two? I already own a home defense shotgun, so this will be more of a "pleasure" buy. I want it because it looks cool and I've heard good things about both. I won't be buying until a few months out, probably January or Feb of next year, but I'd like to weigh options and opinions. I've ruled the Rock Island M5 out, not because it doesn't look cool but because it is supposedly more "rough around the edges" from the factory. I'd rather put down money (but under $1000) for a more upscale pump.

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Old 10-06-2017, 2:03 PM
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Since you're getting the mariner type version you might want to look into whether the internal components of these two shotguns are as protected as the corrosion resistant ( hopefully ) outside surfaces, even if you're just getting it for the looks.

Hopefully those parts are made from stainless steel where possible or at least coated with some type of corrosion resistant coating.

The extra weight of the steel receiver of the Remington 870 never bothered me and it's a reasonable trade-off but I really do prefer the location of the Mossberg's safety.

It's right near your trigger hand's thumb for easy activation and right under your eyeballs for quick positive confirmation.

But I grew up shooting Mossberg 500's so maybe I just prefer that type of safety, when available.
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Old 10-06-2017, 2:11 PM
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Since you're getting the mariner type version you might want to look into whether the internal components of these two shotguns are as protected as the corrosion resistant ( hopefully ) outside surfaces, even if you're just getting it for the looks.

Hopefully those parts are made from stainless steel where possible or at least coated with some type of corrosion resistant coating.

The extra weight of the steel receiver of the Remington 870 never bothered me and it's a reasonable trade-off but I really do prefer the location of the Mossberg's safety.

It's right near your trigger hand's thumb for easy activation and right under your eyeballs for quick positive confirmation.

But I grew up shooting Mossberg 500's so maybe I just prefer that type of safety, when available.
Good point. Rarely (very rarely, actually) do I purchase stuff merely because it's cool. It has to also have a practical application. In this case, I already have a HD shotgun... but I want to "buy up", and the new would replace the old. I mean, if I'm only going to own one of something (a shotgun... I own many handguns and rifles), it should function flawlessly, be utterly reliable, and look good at the same time... all while having a simple aesthetic.

Internal components would definitely matter to me also. And the weight I don't care about so much. My primary concerns are (in order of relevance):
1) reliability... (which bleeds into #2)
2) quality of finish and of internal components
3) maximum capacity
4) price point
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Old 10-06-2017, 2:21 PM
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Fwiw...if you want rifle sights on the 870, check out the Police Marine Magnum, model #25047.

It's not in the catalogs, but you can get one.

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Old 10-06-2017, 3:08 PM
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Well the Remington says nickel plated and the mossberg says marinecoat for the finish. Might want to look into what marinecoat actually is. The Remington does look better.
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870 Marine, Mesa Tactical with Hydrolic Buffer and Limbsaver M4 pad, 18.5" Marine Barrel with Trijicon Rifle Sights, Remington Marine 2 shot Extension with SBE Tactical Follower. Wilson Combat Over size Safety, Mesa Tactical 6 round shell holder mounted on stock or receiver or both. Remington LE Forend. Can't do this with the Mossberg.
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I have never handled or shot a mossberg but you should go with the mossberg. Just because I will never buy a remington product until they sold from the freedom group. The new 870's are built like crap now.
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