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Old 09-22-2017, 11:52 AM
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What exactly is your big plan of defiance?
For many many years I contributed to pro 2a groups, I voted every election, I challenged folks in my sphere of influence with pro 2a thought, didn't seem to matter as so many in CA sit on their hands and do nothing and let the present aristocracy in CA continue it's war path to socialism.




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I didn't run away scared, I left for many reasons, mostly financial and quality of life. After living in CA for over 40 years and witnessing its slow, unrelenting decline, I knew it was the best choice for me and mine.
As for taunting,, I was not taunting, it was real sympathy for whats happening to the last free folk in CA.


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Anyone who says they see even 1 benefit to RAW, is an ostrich with its head buried in the sand and its feathered *** exposed to limp wristed, but tight fisted passers by on Santa Monica Blvd, in West Hollywood, in front of club RAGE. All of you who did register all have signed up to be majorly screwed in the very near future.
Another hint is that you will not be able to pass these rifles down to family. Making it very easy to effectively remove all weaponry eventually from citizens hands. As an heirloom the item is charged with extra meaning, and godly beauty, which is the most dangerous weapon against these scum.

You must all repent now in the name of the lord and gather as free men in great numbers, under the flag of this nation and march the capitol nonstop until they are defeated. They have kept us fat stupid and happy and if you can't see your own enslavement looming over you you are dead already. The only way this will work is if GOD IS INVOLVED AND THE NUMBERS ARE TREMENDOUS.

Everyone needs to stop jibber jabbering about what aunty Cameltoe Hairass will let you have, and take it back.

It will only work again if GOD IS THERE< AND YOU ARE THERE.

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It's really nice in San Diego today. Absolutely beautiful day.

There's no la Jolla in Idaho.
And there is no Frank Church in CA,



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any updates caliguy or crazedss? over a month now with nothing back?
Ok, I just got 7 emails for all 7 of the rifles I submitted on the first day.

It's the same email that a few people here have received already that says they are processing the submissions and results will come via mail.

In case anyone is wondering, It took 2 weeks for them to get back to my submissions after having to resubmit those 5 back on Sept 11..

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So I guess we continue to wait now.
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I didn't run away scared, I left for many reasons, mostly financial and quality of life. After living in CA for over 40 years and witnessing its slow, unrelenting decline, I knew it was the best choice for me and mine.
As for taunting,, I was not taunting, it was real sympathy for whats happening to the last free folk in CA.
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So sad to read this thread. Like sheep to the slaughter.
Them's fightin' words. And just because I choose to hedge my bets with CA and register a small number of my ARs, that does not make me a sheep. That's just the smart play in a bad situation.

I've been here for over 50 years. I've also witnessed the decline. I often feel the urge to flee to a free state myself. But I haven't. Yet.
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Ok, I just got 7 emails for all 7 of the rifles I submitted on the first day.

It's the same email that a few people here have received already that says they are processing the submissions and results will come via mail.

In case anyone is wondering, It took 2 weeks for them to get back to my submissions after having to resubmit those 5 back on Sept 11..

Hope this helps..

So I guess we continue to wait now.
Thanks for the update. DOJ really draggin their feet on this. I guess the takeaway is dont wait til the last minute if you intend on registering.
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Well, I just got an email from them but it doesn't say in regards to which firearm, the two RAWs or the one VolReg with self determined serial, which I plan on also RAWing
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Here is a thought? Can DOJ even approve any registered firearm now with pending litigation in process? If the Law and/or the Regs are overturned what would the approval even means?

So with all the delay, does it means DOJ is just waiting for the outcome of the litigation before they put out the approval?
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Here is a thought? Can DOJ even approve any registered firearm now with pending litigation in process? If the Law and/or the Regs are overturned what would the approval even means?

So with all the delay, does it means DOJ is just waiting for the outcome of the litigation before they put out the approval?
Unless there is an actual injunction issued the DOJ has to process registrations. It's the law. I think this is pretty clear.

Less clear, if all of some of the new laws are overturned, what's the status of these new registrations. I'm not fully aware of all the RAW laws but I believe DOJ is able to accept and approve RAW applications without the new laws. You'd think the registrations would be valid. But I could see it going the other way too.
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For self built are they referring to firearms built from scratch like an 80% lower or are they also referring to firearms built from 100% stripped receivers?
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For self built are they referring to firearms built from scratch like an 80% lower or are they also referring to firearms built from 100% stripped receivers?
80% builds.

100% receivers were made by whoever's company is stamped in the receiver, not you.

This was also verified when someone tried registering their home-assembled (from 100% receivers) and checked the "home built" box on their app, and DOJ sent a message saying that it wasn't considered a home build.
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It's really nice in San Diego today. Absolutely beautiful day.

There's no la Jolla in Idaho.
There also isn't a poo covered downtown giving everyone Hepatitis.
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There also isn't a poo covered downtown giving everyone Hepatitis.
Or if there is, there's rain to wash it away.
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This may have already been answered, but I'm getting ready for a deployment and don't have the time to search: Can one submit an AW registration for a homebuild before the VolReg process has been completed? I don't know how long it will take and I want to get the submission in before I leave the country.
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This may have already been answered, but I'm getting ready for a deployment and don't have the time to search: Can one submit an AW registration for a homebuild before the VolReg process has been completed? I don't know how long it will take and I want to get the submission in before I leave the country.
Check out my thread on the subject, we basically do not know yet. We have tried to submit AW reg applications using volreg'd serial numbers but no one knows if it will work. The only other alternative is to submit to the DOJ process, which is now available via form 1008 . There is no chance they will reg an AW without a volreg or DOJ assigned #.

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For each of my AR type rifles that I submitted and application for, I received an email:

Subject: California Firearms Application Reporting System (CFARS) Submission Confirmation Notice

(my details and the firearm details)

The California Department of Justice has received your electronic AB 1135/SB 880 Assault Weapon Registration and will begin processing your submission. You will be notified of the results via U.S. Mail. If you have any questions, please use the Report an Issue feature in the CFARS application https://cfars.doj.ca.gov. For questions regarding your account, please email the Bureau of Firearms at: bofcris@doj.ca.gov

For my home build pistol I received nothing yet. But I also noticed that I had an error on that application, and had previously reported and issue to them. So who knows what could be going on there... Could be that it's a pistol. Could be that it's a home build. Or it could be that I reported an error in the app.
OK an update. I received an email from CFARS. I logged on and saw this reply to my reported issue:

"Hi Paul, I made your application incomplete so you can change the serial number."

And my pistol reg was changed from In Progress to Incomplete. So I went in and corrected the serial number and resubmitted it, and it's back to In Progress.

This all looks like good news to me.
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OK an update. I received an email from CFARS. I logged on and saw this reply to my reported issue:

"Hi Paul, I made your application incomplete so you can change the serial number."

And my pistol reg was changed from In Progress to Incomplete. So I went in and corrected the serial number and resubmitted it, and it's back to In Progress.

This all looks like good news to me.
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Ok, I just got 7 emails for all 7 of the rifles I submitted on the first day.

It's the same email that a few people here have received already that says they are processing the submissions and results will come via mail.

In case anyone is wondering, It took 2 weeks for them to get back to my submissions after having to resubmit those 5 back on Sept 11..

Hope this helps..

So I guess we continue to wait now.


It's a mystery what the process is. I also applied for half a dozen AW on day 1. On sept 11 I got same letter referencing just one gun, and a request to correct model name on another (which I completed immediately). Nothing since. Every thing shows in progress still online. I wonder if they are not entirely consistent with the letters.
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Because of this post, I was worried that I put the wrong date on my application for one of my guns, so I contacted the FFL and sure enough, I was off by 20 days, I logged on and sent an error message last night and just now saw that they changed my application to incomplete so I went in and fixed it.

So at least that aspect of the process is relatively quick.
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So today we are 8 weeks since the DOJ registration website went live, and as of Saturday 9 months into the registration period and not a single person has received a registration confirmation in the mail.

I don't think that I am the only one here that thinks some kind of shenanigans is going on here. If the DOJ expected 1.5 million firearms to be registered, they are really going to have to bring their numbers up and quickly. I am guessing that only a very small percentage (likely low single digit) of those that are going to register have been submitted and nothing returned in 8 weeks.

There are only 12 weeks left in this year a couple of which are probably holiday/vacation time for state workers, and about 25 work weeks next year prior to 7/1/2018. That is literally 175 working days or 8571 registrations per day. Anyone else think this is an impossibility?

It will be interesting to watch as 7/1/2018 approaches and the DOJ still has hundreds of thousands of registrations pending.
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Someone who spoke to DOJ a couple weeks ago said they mentioned that they don't have a "system" (whatever that means) in place for finalizing the registrations yet.

So I'm not reading into it too much yet. The 2-month delay might only be the result of that, and once that system is going hopefully things will start getting processed much faster - but only time will tell.
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I'm worried and have decided that if no word is received on pending regs I will start my 20 rifle reg process in two weeks. That would give them 10 weeks for processing time, and it's just too close for me to wait considering that they might wait another 2 months and then say "sorry" when time runs out.

The proof that this whole thing is the last thing they want to do is so apparent it might as well be dancing on our noses.
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I'm worried and have decided that if no word is received on pending regs I will start my 20 rifle reg process in two weeks. That would give them 10 weeks for processing time, and it's just too close for me to wait considering that they might wait another 2 months and then say "sorry" when time runs out.

The proof that this whole thing is the last thing they want to do is so apparent it might as well be dancing on our noses.
If you are referring to the injunction, I doubt anything will happen in two weeks.

I'm still holding out until end of December.




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If you are referring to the injunction, I doubt anything will happen in two weeks.

I'm still holding out until end of December.
Not even considering the injunction in my metric. That's fools gold. I hope it happens but either way it's important to make plans without it in being realized.
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Not even considering the injunction in my metric. That's fools gold. I hope it happens but either way it's important to make plans without it in being realized.
What are you waiting for then if you don't mind my asking.
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What are you waiting for then if you don't mind my asking.
Word to get back on those that registered. I'd like to know what was rejected and why, etc.
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Word to get back on those that registered. I'd like to know what was rejected and why, etc.
Ditto. We've learned a lot in the last 2 months, I'm guessing we'll learn a lot in the next 2 as well.

I'm giving it until 12/31... if we still don't know what DOJ is doing by then, I'm just going to roll the dice and complete my apps the best I can.
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Ditto. We've learned a lot in the last 2 months, I'm guessing we'll learn a lot in the next 2 as well.

I'm giving it until 12/31... if we still don't know what DOJ is doing by then, I'm just going to roll the dice and complete my apps the best I can.
Haha you've since moved up from March and I have since moved back from October.
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Haha you've since moved up from March and I have since moved back from October.
My plan is fluid

I'll still wait til march/april if DOJ starts issuing registrations soon, but if it's still looking like this huge mess by 12/31 then I'm doing it sooner
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i got notification from CFARS that additional photos are required. The registration changed from "in progress" to "incomplete" on the transaction history. Where would I go to edit the registration form. Thanks everyone for any assistance.
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i got notification from CFARS that additional photos are required. The registration changed from "in progress" to "incomplete" on the transaction history. Where would I go to edit the registration form. Thanks everyone for any assistance.
You just go back in and click the CRIS Registration link.. Then click "My Transaction History" .. You will see the serial number of each of your submissions as a link. When you click it, it will bring you to the form and you will be able to change things and re submit..


EDIT: Ive seen a couple of posts of people having issues with pics. For reference, he's what my pics looked like. These are actually resized to 1024x768. The actual ones are HUGE, but this should give an idea of something that appears to have been accepted. Even at this lower resolution, you can see the rifle make/model, serial number (I blacked it out for purposes of posting here), features, etc .. For features on this rifle, I selected Pistol Grip and Flash Hider.


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What did they say was wrong with your original photos?
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It is an MP5 pistol. The model and serial number are at the top of the frame.
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Old 10-05-2017, 10:50 PM
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Any updates? One thing that i'm curious about is with the raddlocks and how those are viewed from the DOJ?
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So what if you don't know where or when you bought your lower?
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So what if you don't know where or when you bought your lower?
I sent in the form (I'm forgetting the name) that gets them to tell me what I have registered. It should include dates as well. Must be notarized, must include a copy of your DL, that's it.
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It's called the AFS. Needs a notary. It's not very accurate, usually.

AFS form.
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so I registered a few last weekend and got nothing so far (except an email receipt for credit card charge). Is that normal?
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