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Old 07-25-2017, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopalong View Post
Unfortunately, this is the winning answer.
I agree. So the best line of attack it's to show the virtues are at odds with one another. We need to reframe the gun laws as anti civil rights that disproportionately effect women and minorities. Supported by facts and evidence. Young progressives are ready to blame all actions by the government as racist. We simply need to arm then with those facts. There is ample historical documentation that gun control was instituted in California to disarm Hispanics and Asians. Further allowing sheriffs or any government official to deny a CCW systemically impeded women and minorities. Making cosmetic or better described ergonomic features illegal is women or disabled people that would make better use of or even require such features.
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Old 08-31-2017, 5:07 PM
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Originally Posted by IVC View Post
Not really.

Compare to the "roster lawsuit" where we can show that training materials explicitly say "don't use these 'safety' devices'," where we can get the same gun if it's private party transfer and where supposedly unsafe guns are grandfathered on the roster. Yet, we are getting turned down by the courts...
With respect to the roster, grandfathering and currently allowing PPT of non-roster handguns - we all know how the CA legislature would attempt to remedy that situation, yes? Not by going up but by going down, so to speak. Perhaps that would bite them in the fanny.
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