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Old 06-27-2015, 11:38 AM
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Exclamation Where to live to get a CCW if you work in CoCoCo or parts of Ala Co



If you work in CoCoCo or most of Ala Co, you can get a CCW if you are willing to move to either Solano or San Joaquin counties and willing commute to work.

Vallejo (Solano Co) is excellent for folks working in Rodeo, Pinole, San Pablo, El Cerrito, Orinda (all western CoCoCo) or Berkeley (Alameda Co), depending upon traffic, time of day, and BART. (Napa Co SO also issues CCWs.)

Benecia (Solano Co) is excellent for people working in Martinez, Bay Point, Concord, Pleasant Hill, Clayton, and Walnut Creek (central CoCoCo).

Rio Vista (Solano Co) and Stockton (San Joaquin Co) are excellent for those working in Pittsburg east to Antioch, Oakley, Brentwood, and Discovery Bay (eastern CoCoCo).

Folks who work in San Leandro, San Lorenzo, Hayward, Union City, Fremont, Castro Valley, Dublin, Pleasanton, and Livermore (all in Alameda Co) (again, depending upon traffic, time of day, and BART), as well as people in Alamo, Danville and San Ramon (southern CoCoCo), can live in Tracy and get CCWs (from the San Joaquin SO).

BOTTOM LINE: People working in any part of CoCoCo and people working in parts of Alameda Co can get a CCW if they are willing to commute from either Solano or San Joaquin county. (A LOT of people are renters nowadays, so moving won't be as bad for them.)

ETA: for people who own homes in Ala or CoCoCo, you might consider moving and renting it out, rather than selling since there still is the possibility that we could win Shall Issue via the courts. The main point of this thread is that folks in Ala and CoCo should no longer count on getting a CCW from their sheriff or chief and do what is necessary now rather than wait any longer.

(This is an updated & condensed version of a previous thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=876454)
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Fairfield, Suisun City, Vacaville also.
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Fairfield, Suisun City, Vacaville also.
Right.

Since moving is such a PITA, I was just using the closest cities to get people to think "outside of the box", outside of their own counties, that getting a CCW is possible and practicable.

Of course, if they're willing to put up with a longer commute, they've got more options.
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Anything close to san jose lol Fresno is to far to commute or I'd move there
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For Alameda County is Mountain House the closest?

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Anything close to san jose lol Fresno is to far to commute or I'd move there
Like folks working in San Mateo or SF Co, unless you LOVE to commute you're probably SOL.

This needs to change!

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For Alameda County is Mount House the closest?
Where's that?

Of course, what is "closest" for Ala Co depends if you're talking about working in Pleasanton or Berkeley....

I only listed major cities in the OP so that people would recognize them and consider them. Of course, I'm sure there are unincorporated areas in Solano and San Joaquin counties that are closer than the cities I mentioned. I just want Ala & Coco people to start thinking "outside of the box" to get CCWs. They should no longer count on us winning a Carry Case in federal court.
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so, why don't you elect a constitutional sheriff?
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so, why don't you elect a constitutional sheriff?
The answer is obvious: because such are unelectable in the 5 major counties in the SF Bay Area (SF, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Ala, and CoCoCo).

The only way the antis that do get elected will issue is by being forced by the courts. Recent history in the fed cts suggests that even that door may be closed. Thus, we need to be creative in working around the obstacles to getting CCWs.
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Vallejo and Stockton are s___holes. I would never recommend moving there solely for obtaining the privilege of getting a CCW.
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"Vallejo and Stockton are s___holes. I would never recommend moving there solely for obtaining the privilege of getting a CCW."

Tracy might come close, my reason for asking the above question. I should have asked "Closest safe, family friendly town near Livermore"

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Vallejo and Stockton are s___holes. I would never recommend moving there solely for obtaining the privilege of getting a CCW.
Who in their right mind would move *anywhere* solely for that?
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Vallejo and Stockton are s___holes. I would never recommend moving there solely for obtaining the privilege of getting a CCW.
Vallejo is a craphole, but there are a few areas of the city that are not too bad. I live in Glen Cove, and its kind of the hidden gem of the city.
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Where's that?
Mountain House, I guess that is where he meant. it is before Tracy.
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Vallejo and Stockton are s___holes. I would never recommend moving there solely for obtaining the privilege of getting a CCW.
If there's nice, safe parts of Oakland (and there are), I'm sure there's nice, safe parts of Vallejo and Stockton: they're too big to be all crummy and dangerous.

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Vallejo is a craphole, but there are a few areas of the city that are not too bad. I live in Glen Cove, and its kind of the hidden gem of the city.
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Tracy might come close, my reason for asking the above question. I should have asked "Closest safe, family friendly town near Livermore"
I'm just trying to get people to realize that, usually, where they work is fixed but they might be able to move where they live. All it takes is moving on one side of a county border vs the other and you can get a CCW.

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Who in their right mind would move *anywhere* solely for that?
1) People regularly ask these sorts of questions (e.g., "What's the closest sheriff/county to the Bay that issues CCWs?").

2) Some people have getting a CA CCW on their "bucket list." If Peruta gets sent down for new trial under current law (public LOC banned) (or for some other reason), and then has to go back up appeal, appeal en banc and then to SCOTUS, it might not get cert for another 5 years and we might still lose.

3) People on this forum are moving all the time (we've got >200,000). If you point out that moving to one side of a county border vs another might be the difference between a husband and wife getting CCWs to protect their family or not, its something they can factor into their decision.

4) A LOT of people are renters (houses, condos, or apartments). When their lease comes up, they may have to move or they may now decide to move, and if they do it right, they can get a CCW too, so why not?
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Mountain House, I guess that is where he meant. it is before Tracy.
Maybe I should have pointed out the obvious for some folks (not you): you do NOT have to move to any of the cities I mentioned, you only have to move inside that county's borders in order to apply w/that county's sheriff.
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Thanks Best Sale, Mountain House, I guess that is where he meant. it is before Tracy.
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Since our kids are grown and we are now empty nesters, we just moved from Livermore to Tracy. Sold our large Livermore home for $400 sq. ft. and bought a NEW home in Tracy for $250 sq. ft. Granted it is a bit warmer than Livermore, and does not have the vibrant downtown that Livermore does, it's a great place to live. Everything is cheaper, and the folks are very down-to-earth.
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Anything close to san jose lol Fresno is to far to commute or I'd move there
San Benito County, Hollister
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San Benito County, Hollister
Are you serious. Hollister issues?

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Are you serious. Hollister issues?

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I don't know about Hollister PD, but I am pretty sure San Benito Sheriff does. The city was just there to tell him what city to head for...
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Does anyone here have a ccw issues by San benito county? And of so is it because you are one of the rich ones or because the sheriff is pro-gun. We all know we're running short on those.

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Actually, contra costa is starting to issue
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That's to far for me Hollister would be perfect. That would be a 45 minute commute. But I need several confermations before I plan a move. Is there anyway to find out.

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Actually, contra costa is starting to issue
CoCoCo has never been impossible, at the San Francisco level.

What evidence are you seeing that suggests an increase beyond the 36 in 2011?
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That's to far for me Hollister would be perfect. That would be a 45 minute commute. But I need several confermations before I plan a move. Is there anyway to find out.

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There's a San Benito thread in the counties forum.

Sheriff's website includes this interesting statement:

The standard of “good cause” varies from
county to county, and recently has not
been a roadblock to our applicants.

http://sbso.us/concealed-weapons-permits
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There's a San Benito thread in the counties forum.

Sheriff's website includes this interesting statement:

The standard of “good cause” varies from
county to county, and recently has not
been a roadblock to our applicants.

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Now to find good cause. It's my right isn't good enough. What did you guys say? please pm me in private if that makes you feel more comfortable. I'm not rich nor do I own my own business so I think I'm pretty much assed out right? At the moment no one has tried to kill me and I'd rather keep it that way. But if I ever do need it unfortunately it will probably be to late. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is if my car brakes down and ill end up walking to my dad's house where I would move to. And walking though empty dark streets surrounded by empty land isn't to much fun. What if a wild bore comes out of no where and eats me

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Don't use any of those.

Read between the lines on the quote from the Sheriff's website. Go to the San Benito thread in the counties forum. Contact some of the people posting there.
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