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Old 09-27-2008, 10:56 AM
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I NEED HELP FAST! PURCHASED TwO UPPERS WITH FAKE SUPPRESSORS. ONE CAME WITH , suppressor on it that u can screw and unscrew off, the other came with a flash hider that i can"t for the life of me unscrew, and the can seperate?? which was supposed to arrive attached to barrel. how the hell do i take the flash hider off to screw on the fake can. please email me with some feedback. stonewoe@aol.com
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I NEED HELP FAST! PURCHASED TwO UPPERS WITH FAKE SUPPRESSORS. ONE CAME WITH , suppressor on it that u can screw and unscrew off, the other came with a flash hider that i can"t for the life of me unscrew, and the can seperate?? which was supposed to arrive attached to barrel. how the hell do i take the flash hider off to screw on the fake can. please email me with some feedback. stonewoe@aol.com
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What platform are we talking about ?
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M 4 SPIKES TACTICAL OPERATOR UPPER. CAR 1 CAN.
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What kind of rifle?
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Try heating it up a bit. Waive the flame from a propane torch over it. Should work.

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Do this only if you will maintain legal CA length!

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M 4 SPIKES TACTICAL OPERATOR UPPER. CAR 1 CAN.


Is the break/flash hider pinned and welded or just on there really tight?
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If it's an M4 barrel, it has a flash hider permanently silver solderred on to be legal length doesn't it?

You should call Spikes and discuss what you have versus what you want with them.
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If it's an M4 barrel, it has a flash hider permanently silver solderred on to be legal length doesn't it?
Well, it could be a 16" M4 profile barrel.
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hey man i have no clue, i ordered it from spiketactical.com . they got the order right on one upper and the other has the flash hider unmoveable on it with the fake can in a seperate bag, it was supposed to come with no flash hider and can installed?

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what do u suggest


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hey man i have no clue, i ordered it from spiketactical.com . they got the order right on one upper and the other has the flash hider unmoveable on it with the fake can in a seperate bag, it was supposed to come with no flash hider and can installed?
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ahhh crap i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that, i'm in california, looks like they screwed up my order on the operator upper, and i'll proabably have to send it back and than wait forever for it to arive in mail. ****!!!!! can a gunsmith get that flash hider off, and how much would it cost, any home remeides to getting it off!!!! i'm going to post a pic of what it looks like.

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ahhh crap i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that, i'm in california, looks like they screwed up my order on the operator upper, and i'll proabably have to send it back and than wait forever for it to arive in mail. ****!!!!! can a gunsmith get that flash hider off, and how much would it cost, any home remeides to getting it off!!!! i'm going to post a pic of what it looks like.
yes, a gunsmith can get that flash hider off... the problem is, is that if that barrel is a 14.5" barrel with a perm-attached flash hider, it's perm-attached for a reason. once you remove that FH it becomes a SBR. you'll have to determine if that's the case.
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just checked their site... looks like they only offer the Operator upper with a 16" barrel. don't know why they would perm-attach it on there.
can you see the discoloration on the FH where they may have perm-attached it?
and last but not least, ummmm... righty-tighty lefty-loosey...
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it was a custom order on an upper as well. if it has to go back man its going be a pain in the *** royaly



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ahhh crap i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that, i'm in california, looks like they screwed up my order on the operator upper, and i'll proabably have to send it back and than wait forever for it to arive in mail. ****!!!!! can a gunsmith get that flash hider off, and how much would it cost, any home remeides to getting it off!!!! i'm going to post a pic of what it looks like.
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the flash hider appears to be dinged up, major lube in that bolt???? don't really see discoloration but its quite dinged up , i'll have a pic up in a couple mins. thanks bro

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just checked their site... looks like they only offer the Operator upper with a 16" barrel. don't know why they would perm-attach it on there.
can you see the discoloration on the FH where they may have perm-attached it?
and last but not least, ummmm... righty-tighty lefty-loosey...
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ok the sd1 arrived cool with can, see my problem with the operator upper.
any feedback appreciated so i can solve this problem



see how they gave me can seperate when it should have been installed. is that flash hider permanetly fixed to the barrel, how do u get that off




by the way these rifles are so damn awesome, they just screwed up on that flash hider crap part, that launcher, wow, sweet baby. i need this thing off though, it's bugging me.

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check out this link: http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/perm-vortex.jpg
or http://ar15barrels.com/gfx/perm-attach.jpg
does your flash hider have any of these marks on it. i doubt they perm-attached the FH on there. just use a wrench to twist it off if there are no marks like that on there. wrap the FH with something if you don't want to mar it up, or just twist it off.
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We'd need a closeup of the flash hider (and good lighting, focus and resolution) to tell.

Do you see a spot on your flash hider that looks like this:
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Depending upon where you're located, you could take it to AR15barrels and he'll make it all better.
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If the upper with the flash suppressor has a 14.5" barrel, the flash suppresor is probably permanent attached.
You would have to send it to someone like me to have the permanent muzzle device machined off.
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no marks at all on fh like the ones u put up. let me find a wrench . thanks guys
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we have a gunsmith who can do it for you 650-960-3006
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no wrench here its at work, about to rip off my hands trying o take it off with my hands, so i'll do it later, i can't see any of those soldiering marks at all on the fh. so hopefully all i need is a wrench.


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I am on my phone and can't tell size. Measure from the back (stock side) of the forearm to the end of the hider. If it's over 15.5" then it's not permanent

If it is under then it's permanent.

If perm send it back

Otherwise try a penetrating lube and don't wuss out
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how much and where at

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no marks at all on fh like the ones u put up. let me find a wrench . thanks guys
huh? what were you trying to use before when you tried to take it off? your kung fu grip?
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yeah using my cobra ninja kung fu grip, go figure ha, thats proabably why i can't get that thing off. the can on the sd just screwes right on and off. hmmm by the way where on this site can i find a used detachable carry holder for ar-15 and rail detachable riser. thanks

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probably cus there's more area for you to grip... use a wrench and that thing should screw right off.
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??? can u be more specific

If it is under then it's permanent.

If perm send it back

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I need to know if your barrel is over 16"

If it's not then the fh is permanent

If it is then you need a wrench
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??? can u be more specific

If it is under then it's permanent.

If perm send it back

Otherwise try a penetrating lube and don't wuss out
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if it is under then it's permanent.- YES, this is to follow SBR laws.

if perm send it back.- YES, if what you ordered was a 16" barrel and didn't request a perm-attach FH.

penetrating lube and don't wuss out- depends, the upper is brand new so it shouldn't require any penetrating lube, just a little bit of strength and THE PROPER TOOL.
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From what I can tell from those pictures that is a 16" barrel. The 14.5" M4 barrels have a shorter section forward of the grenade launcher mounting notch.

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no wrench here its at work, about to rip off my hands trying o take it off with my hands, so i'll do it later, i can't see any of those soldiering marks at all on the fh. so hopefully all i need is a wrench.
They don't come off by hand! Please tell me you didn't make this entire thread without first trying a wrench?
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yep no wrench, by hand, but for someone who has there barrel fh welded they know what to do now. my stag upper on my other m4 is welded on there. now i know what to do to get that ***** off and put a fake supressor on there. send it to gun smith. lol

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yeah using my cobra ninja kung fu grip, go figure ha, thats proabably why i can't get that thing off. the can on the sd just screwes right on and off.
I'm going to ask a question that you don't have to answer.
Are you serious?
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From what I can tell from those pictures that is a 16" barrel.
The 14.5" M4 barrels have a shorter section forward of the grenade launcher mounting notch.
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