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Old 07-18-2014, 10:58 AM
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It's the year 2014.We live in a day and age where e-commerce is commonplace.

Hence why it is I submit that truly avoiding registration is unlikely. Say you have an 80% frame and finish it in your garage. True, the gun itself isn't papered. But the debit card you used to buy the holster, ammo, and magazines for it is. And it doesn't take a great deal of detective work to figure out you own a 9mm when your bank statement has MidwayUSA purchases all over for 9mm specific items.

Chances are you wouldnt be buying a 1911 extractor if you didn't own a 1911.And Uncle Sam has greater access to our finances then they ever did have to our gun documentation, whatever it may be.
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Last I heard, the contents of the purchase are not reported to the credit card companies or the banks. They would need to capture the invoice either from the company's files (via subpoena or hack), your email records (via subpoena or hack), or in transit between the company and you (hello Edward Snowden).

I doubt there are many first time gun owners purchasing 80% lowers so they already have a history of gun purchases. What's to say your not buying parts for an existing firearm?

It really all depends on who is looking and at what level. Between your web searches and traffic being captured and data mined by three letter agencies, power of subpoena, and investigative time, money and interagency cooperations, they can find it unless you are doing some serious secret-squirrel cash-only purchases at the store front.

You would have to be seriously on some Federal Agency's radar to get that level of digging. I doubt that any State would get that level of access. I am not concerned about it, but your miles may vary
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Old 07-18-2014, 11:24 AM
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It's the year 2014.We live in a day and age where e-commerce is commonplace.

Hence why it is I submit that truly avoiding registration is unlikely. Say you have an 80% frame and finish it in your garage. True, the gun itself isn't papered. But the debit card you used to buy the holster, ammo, and magazines for it is. And it doesn't take a great deal of detective work to figure out you own a 9mm when your bank statement has MidwayUSA purchases all over for 9mm specific items.

Chances are you wouldnt be buying a 1911 extractor if you didn't own a 1911.And Uncle Sam has greater access to our finances then they ever did have to our gun documentation, whatever it may be.
E-commerce is very commonplace. That doesn't mean it's use is mandatory. Cash still works.

You know the best way to keep people out of your business?

Don't tell them about it, or invite them in.
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Last I heard, the contents of the purchase are not reported to the credit card companies or the banks. They would need to capture the invoice either from the company's files (via subpoena or hack), your email records (via subpoena or hack), or in transit between the company and you (hello Edward Snowden).

I doubt there are many first time gun owners purchasing 80% lowers so they already have a history of gun purchases. What's to say your not buying parts for an existing firearm?

It really all depends on who is looking and at what level. Between your web searches and traffic being captured and data mined by three letter agencies, power of subpoena, and investigative time, money and interagency cooperations, they can find it unless you are doing some serious secret-squirrel cash-only purchases at the store front.

You would have to be seriously on some Federal Agency's radar to get that level of digging. I doubt that any State would get that level of access. I am not concerned about it, but your miles may vary
The contents might not be in the statement, but the vendor name would be. Ares Armory, to use an example, doesn't sell watch batteries. The government might not know what gun you specifically have, but they can prove you own something in an AR format chambered in caliber XYZ.
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It's the year 2014.We live in a day and age where e-commerce is commonplace.

Hence why it is I submit that truly avoiding registration is unlikely. Say you have an 80% frame and finish it in your garage. True, the gun itself isn't papered. But the debit card you used to buy the holster, ammo, and magazines for it is. And it doesn't take a great deal of detective work to figure out you own a 9mm when your bank statement has MidwayUSA purchases all over for 9mm specific items.

Chances are you wouldnt be buying a 1911 extractor if you didn't own a 1911.And Uncle Sam has greater access to our finances then they ever did have to our gun documentation, whatever it may be.
Stop relying on NCIS for an understanding of what credit card companies know and report. Your CC company doesn't know if you're buying ammo or synthetic deer urine by the barrel at cabelas. They would need to go to cabelas with the transaction information and convince cabelas(likely via court order) to hand over the invoice.

Your CC company doesn't care.

Now is it obvious you might own guns if your statements are full of purchases from weonlysellammo.com ? Sure. But the idea that a local agency can look up some database to see who purchased a size 12 boot within the past 3 months and get a list of names and addresses is complete TV crime drama bull****.
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True enough, the incursions of our own government against us likely goes far beyond what they've admitted to or what's been made public by other sources.

I believe defacto registration is very real, but I also believe in at least the shadow of the Constitution that's still begrudgingly allowed to exist in the nation that calls itself the United States of America, so while I have no doubt this government has been able to extrapolate knowledge of everything I own, they're still bound by the Bill of Rights to at least pretend they can't use that information against me.

And when the day comes that they no longer feel bound by the Constitution to respect my liberties and come for me, they'll know what kind of body armor to wear. It won't help them though.
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Anyone with any tech savvy can build a case about you so why worry about it. As always, we're small frys, not worth the effort unless you hit their radar. Pay your taxes, keep up on your bills and don't join a radical group, we should mostly be left alone. Our info. Is out there if you give them a reason to look and dig it up.
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I work at a company that stores emails for major banks (due to banking rules enacted after the 2007 meltdown), and I can tell you the headache it is to deal with terabytes of data coming in and being sorted and stored everyday.

Now you're telling me that online retailers will keep this info and have it stored and arranged for the Feds examine? Just for tracking down one guy, you're finding a needle in a haystack. To sort out all those petabytes of information so the ATF can go door to door to confiscate arms, is like sorting out a haystack made entirely of needles.

I'm sure the NSA can handle this project - if they have a unlimited budget in the billions earmarked just for this task
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There are still anonymous ways to purchase things on the Internet.

So, you want to buy an 80% blank or a parts kit, hell anything you want from the internet, but as anonymously as possible? Alright, let's do this.


1. Go purchase some Visa prepaid cards with cash in another town in a store you don't frequent, wearing clothes that aren't your normal getup.
2. Purchase an inexpensive tablet or other Internet capable portable device off Craigslist or Ebay (do NOT connect to your home network when you get this device)
3. Scout around your town for a recently foreclosed house, or a foreclosed house that at least looks like it might have inhabitants; enough to fool a delivery man, at least
4. Go to an Internet cafe or coffee shop at least an hour away from your home
5. Use your Internet device to go to the website selling what you want, and purchase it with the visa prepaid cards while using a fictitious name
6. Ship the items to the foreclosed house you previously scouted
7. On the day of the delivery, go and check to see if the item is at the house. If not, leave and check again. If it is there, you can pick it up and walk away: no trail to you.

Now, some do's and don't's.
Do use a vehicle without any tracking or data logging capabilities, so something with OBD-I should be the newest vehicle you should use.
Don't carry a cellphone during any leg of this venture, since that's just a tracker sitting riiiight in your pocket.
Do try to find a foreclosed house with a short fence if you can; it's less likey to have the package stolen that way
Don't use the Internet device you purchased for this task ever again. With the price of simple internet capable android tablets being $40, sometimes less on the used market, it's not worth it to risk leaving it lying around; destroy it.

You could add more and more layers of security to this of course, but that's just the basics, and unless you're already being watched for some weird reason, that'll work we'll enough.
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Once we get the right to keep and bear arms firmly confirmed by the courts, including the right to have cosmetic features and any capacity magazines, the whole registration idea will go away.

The only reason current government wants registration is so that they know where to send notices once they outlaw a specific firearm.
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There are still anonymous ways to purchase things on the Internet.

So, you want to buy an 80% blank or a parts kit, hell anything you want from the internet, but as anonymously as possible? Alright, let's do this.


1. Go purchase some Visa prepaid cards with cash in another town in a store you don't frequent, wearing clothes that aren't your normal getup.
2. Purchase an inexpensive tablet or other Internet capable portable device off Craigslist or Ebay (do NOT connect to your home network when you get this device)
3. Scout around your town for a recently foreclosed house, or a foreclosed house that at least looks like it might have inhabitants; enough to fool a delivery man, at least
4. Go to an Internet cafe or coffee shop at least an hour away from your home
5. Use your Internet device to go to the website selling what you want, and purchase it with the visa prepaid cards while using a fictitious name
6. Ship the items to the foreclosed house you previously scouted
7. On the day of the delivery, go and check to see if the item is at the house. If not, leave and check again. If it is there, you can pick it up and walk away: no trail to you.

Now, some do's and don't's.
Do use a vehicle without any tracking or data logging capabilities, so something with OBD-I should be the newest vehicle you should use.
Don't carry a cellphone during any leg of this venture, since that's just a tracker sitting riiiight in your pocket.
Do try to find a foreclosed house with a short fence if you can; it's less likey to have the package stolen that way
Don't use the Internet device you purchased for this task ever again. With the price of simple internet capable android tablets being $40, sometimes less on the used market, it's not worth it to risk leaving it lying around; destroy it.

You could add more and more layers of security to this of course, but that's just the basics, and unless you're already being watched for some weird reason, that'll work we'll enough.

This is how you get flagged by the NSA :P
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You act like nobody goes to a shop and pays in cash anymore. Not to mention the credit card company only knows what vendor you shopped at and how much you spent.
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cash + no background checks for private sales here in Arizona :B I've pretty much offloaded all my CA purchased firearms aside from my CZ 75 and replaced them with others :B
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It's the year 2014.We live in a day and age where e-commerce is commonplace.

Hence why it is I submit that truly avoiding registration is unlikely. Say you have an 80% frame and finish it in your garage. True, the gun itself isn't papered. But the debit card you used to buy the holster, ammo, and magazines for it is. And it doesn't take a great deal of detective work to figure out you own a 9mm when your bank statement has MidwayUSA purchases all over for 9mm specific items.

Chances are you wouldnt be buying a 1911 extractor if you didn't own a 1911.And Uncle Sam has greater access to our finances then they ever did have to our gun documentation, whatever it may be.
E-commerce may be commonplace, but who says all people use e-commerce. I still know quite a few people who avoid it like the plague. Many of my generation and older still prefer to deal in cash. There are a growing number of gun dealers that are also dealing off the books if you use silver or gold coins as payment. When I mean off the books, I mean gun parts, not guns themselves, they still follow all applicable rules for transferring those.

Then, there are pre-paid credit cards purchased at a local store. You can use whatever name you want with those. Where I live, $50 on the street, gets you a good false ID to use at a UPS mailbox store to rent a mailbox. Better yet, most of the clerks working their are high school kids or minimum wage workers and for $100 will photocopy an obvious fake in which the pictures do not match. I am a high school teacher, I hear this from my students.

There are other ways to get a rented mailbox that cannot be traced to you.

Then, the best way of all, go on buying trips. If you really want to stay under the radar, pay for gas in cash, stay off of Interstates, use back roads, do not eat at restaurants, wear nondescript clothes, if staying overnight, sleep in your car in isolated places or rest stops, and buy gas at small mom and pop places. Better yet, fill up a bunch of jerry cans before leaving and refuel from those. Leave the cell phone at home. There are even ways to protect your license plate from being photographed like using a tow hitch carrier that blocks it. Drive to a large city several hundred miles away and buy what you want and drive back. Keep your mouth shut and no one knows what you have.

Cabellas and Scheels are great starting places in Reno. There are a couple of state highways that go into Nevada that avoid all agricultural check stations. I have several jerry cans for 4-wheeling and a few times have enjoyed a few 4 wheel roads from CA into NV. The main road I take has a couple of mom and pop stores I can buy gas from if I so choose. Since they are in the middle of nowhere, they also do not have any video cameras or ways to connect them to anything. They do not even have telephone service or are in range of cell phone service.
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cash + no background checks for private sales here in Arizona :B I've pretty much offloaded all my CA purchased firearms aside from my CZ 75 and replaced them with others :B
You also have no idea if you bought a stolen firearm.

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You'd have no idea if you bought a <insert_private_property_here> that happened to be stolen either. Yet somehow society manages to function just fine without having a government database checked every time a private party sells an item to someone else.
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Yes, but getting caught with a stolen firearm is much worse than finding out you bought a stolen tv. Not that I wouldn't do a cash and carry PPT if I lived in a free state.
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Yes, but getting caught with a stolen firearm is much worse than finding out you bought a stolen tv. Not that I wouldn't do a cash and carry PPT if I lived in a free state.
You're forgetting that the problem is with knowingly receiving stolen property. The fed statute is similar to the CA version(PC 496), and I can only assume other states have similar laws on the books.

If your seller starts with: "Yo dawg, I just lifted this piece from some fool, 350 and it's yours", then you've got a problem.

If you ask the owner about their history with it(when they bought it, where they bought it, etc.) then you aren't knowingly buying stolen property. Now that person could still lie to you about it, but the DA would need to be able to prove you knew it was stolen.

If the law regarding stolen property were so asinine that it didn't require knowing the item was stolen, then no one would ever buy anything via craigslist because they'd be too paranoid about it being stolen.
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"Go purchase some Visa prepaid cards"

I'm not sure if you guys know the answer to this question but when I recently wanted to buy some 100 leagal items online,BUT avoid the possibility of online fraud.

I noticed that all the new prepaid cards wanted (and needed to work) and all sorts of personal information (banking accounts, social security number and stuff like that.)
that they say now are required by law.
is there something I'm missing when I went shopping for those..
again I am not trying to do anything illegal I'm just trying to avoid fraud and if I wanted to give out my personal information I just use my own a debit or credit cards.

if you know the answer please post it here or send me a PM again nothing illegal, I'm just looking for safety when I purchased items.



and like someone already stated certain agencies can get any information they want about anything that's where our tax money goes.
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"Go purchase some Visa prepaid cards"

I'm not sure if you guys know the answer to this question but when I recently wanted to buy some 100 leagal items online,BUT avoid the possibility of online fraud.

I noticed that all the new prepaid cards wanted (and needed to work) and all sorts of personal information (banking accounts, social security number and stuff like that.)
that they say now are required by law.
is there something I'm missing when I went shopping for those..
again I am not trying to do anything illegal I'm just trying to avoid fraud and if I wanted to give out my personal information I just use my own a debit or credit cards.

if you know the answer please post it here or send me a PM again nothing illegal, I'm just looking for safety when I purchased items.



and like someone already stated certain agencies can get any information they want about anything that's where our tax money goes.
According to this, the Vanilla Visa Gift Card (prepaid cards you can use online, and purchase with cash at any Wal-Mart) doesn't require ANY of that.
Some Internet retailers require that Visa has your address on file, but it is NOT mandatory (and there is nothing stopping you from lying about your address and name). There is no law saying you must do it.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Visa-25-Gift-Card/16513374
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I've never given info when I buy prepaid cards. Just pay in cash.

I rarely even have to give info when I send money. Just a name and some details. And they never bothered to check my ID, not once.
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The Futility of Avoiding Gun Registration....
Futility? Well, criminals seem to make a really good go of it, and quite easily too. Plenty of them have no worries about registration of their firearms - at all.

They just steal yours... or get them from Eric Holder or Leland Yee.
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What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?
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Where attempts to guard your own privacy will be considered terrorist activity.
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Credit card companies "type" the merchant, sporting goods, firearms, restaurant, gas station, etc... Nearly 100% of the merchants state what "type" of firm they are when they open their merchant accounts. Each year, I receive an annual statement of what I spent and how much, it's all there. Some credit card firms now allow you to upload your receipt to match their statement, thus they can retain ALL of the purchase information!
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"Go purchase some Visa prepaid cards"

I'm not sure if you guys know the answer to this question but when I recently wanted to buy some 100 leagal items online,BUT avoid the possibility of online fraud.

I noticed that all the new prepaid cards wanted (and needed to work) and all sorts of personal information (banking accounts, social security number and stuff like that.)
that they say now are required by law.
is there something I'm missing when I went shopping for those..
again I am not trying to do anything illegal I'm just trying to avoid fraud and if I wanted to give out my personal information I just use my own a debit or credit cards.

if you know the answer please post it here or send me a PM again nothing illegal, I'm just looking for safety when I purchased items.



and like someone already stated certain agencies can get any information they want about anything that's where our tax money goes.

As already stated, use prepaid gift cards. Those are meant to be one-time use cards. You buy them, give them to someone as a gift for a birthday or whatever, they buy whatever. I have yet found one that requires you give any personal info to use. Some will say we suggest you give us some info so if there is a problem with the transaction you will have some protection and can charge back, etc.

Here is the problem, you cannot have both safety and security if you also what freedom from government intrusion. Remember that Ben Franklin quote. Using credit cards do allow some safety and security for online orders and in exchange you are giving up a whole lot of information to the vendor, to anyone that happens to hack the system, and potentially any 3 letter government agency. Government agencies suck up many more times data in a day than than they can process in a few years. So a lot of it gets stored and lost and will never see the light of day. It will only become a problem if you come across the radar and someone does a search.

Now, if you want to keep the information out of the data bases, then you will have to sacrifice some safety and security. Use pre-paid gift cards and if asked for personal information, give false information. Use prepaid credit cards and do the same. BTW, there are many people locked out of the banking system due to bankruptcies and they use prepaid credit cards without having bank accounts. This is how these cards got started. They exist, you just have to search.

The one I use, that I can add value to at my local grocery store, asked for personal info. I gave BS info and I still add cash to it and use it. I have done so for over 5 years.

Now that I have decided to go further off the grid and protect my purchasing info more, I rarely buy any sensitive goods online. I take trips a couple of times a year to a nearby state and pay cash. I consider it a weekend get-away, and I scope things out just incase our state goes full retard and I decide the only thing left is open rebellion and smuggling of what should be legal. Learn the history of prohibition. What got that overturned was widespread and open breaking of the law by a huge proportion of society. They could not arrest law breakers fast enough.

The other thing, you really need to spend time around college kids. They can give you an education of how to buy what you want and have it shipped to your door while keeping off the radar of Uncle Sam. They do it all the time with pot and other drugs. Bitcoin is not the only alternative currency that is untraceable.

Heck, even the middle east terrorist use another, very old school method that is untraceable and does not rely on banks. It is how Iran has been getting around sanctions.

You are not going to get this information in a public forum or from someone sending you a PM. The people who are doing it do it because they do not trust the government. Use google and read the news, and not the US mainstream news.
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My thoughts on this, from a logical standpoint...

If it were that easy to track and prove what you own via financial records, there would be no point in pushing for gun registration. It would just be done quietly behind your back. It's really a paradox.

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The hell with the government checking out my purchases. I'm way more concerned about the wife finding out.

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thanks guys for the answers.
I think I was looking at cards that specifically said "able to use for all online purchases" and those ones that have the extra security also need personal information (be it true or false) to work.

It seemed like the regular gift cards (I like the vanilla gift card mentioned above.) were not intended by their makers or wanted by all sellers to be used for all types of online purchases.

but I guess I was just mistaken, maybe it's because I don't do online shopping.
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just cause you bought 1.000 condoms
don't mean you had a ton of sex,...
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Just wishful thinking.
best to always be prepared

honestly i had a friend of mine who wasn't very good looking...actually he was pretty pathetic looking, didn't take care of himself, balding, overweight, double chin working, blackheads on his nose, yet, he was constantly hitting on some pretty nice looking women...all the time

i would come straight out and ask him "you really think you even have a chance at that"...he would always tell me the same thing "well, if i ask out 100 beautiful women, 99 of them may say no, but, 1 might say yes"..."all i need is 1"...that usually shut me up
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There are still anonymous ways to purchase things on the Internet.

So, you want to buy an 80% blank or a parts kit, hell anything you want from the internet, but as anonymously as possible? Alright, let's do this.


1. Go purchase some Visa prepaid cards with cash in another town in a store you don't frequent, wearing clothes that aren't your normal getup.
2. Purchase an inexpensive tablet or other Internet capable portable device off Craigslist or Ebay (do NOT connect to your home network when you get this device)
3. Scout around your town for a recently foreclosed house, or a foreclosed house that at least looks like it might have inhabitants; enough to fool a delivery man, at least
4. Go to an Internet cafe or coffee shop at least an hour away from your home
5. Use your Internet device to go to the website selling what you want, and purchase it with the visa prepaid cards while using a fictitious name
6. Ship the items to the foreclosed house you previously scouted
7. On the day of the delivery, go and check to see if the item is at the house. If not, leave and check again. If it is there, you can pick it up and walk away: no trail to you.

Now, some do's and don't's.
Do use a vehicle without any tracking or data logging capabilities, so something with OBD-I should be the newest vehicle you should use.
Don't carry a cellphone during any leg of this venture, since that's just a tracker sitting riiiight in your pocket.
Do try to find a foreclosed house with a short fence if you can; it's less likey to have the package stolen that way
Don't use the Internet device you purchased for this task ever again. With the price of simple internet capable android tablets being $40, sometimes less on the used market, it's not worth it to risk leaving it lying around; destroy it.

You could add more and more layers of security to this of course, but that's just the basics, and unless you're already being watched for some weird reason, that'll work we'll enough.
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