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Old 03-06-2014, 3:06 AM
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Default Mah first AK!

Hey guys, just wanted some opinions.

Am looking into picking up my first AK. Originally wanted to build from a parts kit, but changed my mind.I really like the Yugo M70s but am in a bit of limbo. Saw the NPAP on Atlantic Firearms for $529. OPAP not to be found online. Could always wait and see if any come up on here. Now stuck between OPAP and NPAP..

My thoughts:
-OPAP has heavier RPK style receiver
-NPAP has standard safety bolt hold open feature
-OPAP has surplus furniture vs NPAP's civilian furniture

Anything that I'm missing? Which would you go with? Better recommendations? WASR fanboys?
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Old 03-06-2014, 3:39 AM
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They don't have chrome lined barrels and they're patterned on milled AK receivers. Not a big deal but it matters to some. Parts will not be as plentiful as there are a lot more for AKM patterns which these are not.
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Old 03-06-2014, 3:43 AM
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N/O-Pap, the new WASR
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Old 03-06-2014, 6:16 AM
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I just got into AKs a short time ago. pick what you like. For me it had to come from a cold war commie country. So i have 2 Romanian AKMs. I like the history of owning a AKM that most of the parts are used [ but good ] military parts. It would not be hard to find a AK that was professionally built from a east European parts kit.
I like the Romanian parts kit laminated wood. very handsome.
others prefer new rifles that have no old commie parts. they all work just fine.
I would start with a Century arms [ turners ] parts kit AKM and go from their.
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Old 03-06-2014, 6:24 AM
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I say get what you can right now...most places are out of stock.
From everything I've read, the NPAP and OPAP rifles are supposed to be pretty good.
You could always consider buying a Saiga sporter. They're built in Russia and its fairly simple to convert them later if you decided you want to have an evil rifle.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:02 AM
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i wouldnt consider the bolt hold open a really great feature, once you pull the magazine the bolt closes and you have to rack it once again...
just saying...
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Old 03-06-2014, 3:32 PM
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i wouldnt consider the bolt hold open a really great feature, once you pull the magazine the bolt closes and you have to rack it once again...
just saying...
agreed...i actually see it as a nuisance
theres one thing you can usually be sure of....if you squeeze the trigger and you simply get a click...your out and time to change mags with an AK
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Old 03-06-2014, 4:27 PM
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Better hurry Atlantic just got from what tey told me is their last shipment of opaps and they are not making them anymore. They have them in stock right now. I had an npap on order and switched it for the opap. Everything I've read and people I talked to says opaps are the way to go as far as best bang for buck.
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My OPAP has been great so far. The non chromed parts aren't really an issue as I don't shoot corrosive ammo and I clean all my rifles when I'm done shooting.
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Old 03-06-2014, 7:26 PM
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I have an npap and wish I had an opap. That being said I like my npap.
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My OPAP has been great so far. The non chromed parts aren't really an issue as I don't shoot corrosive ammo and I clean all my rifles when I'm done shooting.
its funny when i hear this...... since the united states has chrome plated our battle rifles for years....and NEVER made corrosive ammo

no offense...but chrome doubles the life of your barrel, so it IS an issue...and contrary to what it says....most comm bloc ammo is still slightly corrosive

its just something i hear a lot....and im not sure where the thought comes from

and yes...non chrome is more accurate, but i dont think a 1/4" at 200 yards is worth losing barrel life

thats all just my opinion tho...with that said..

the OPAP is the best deal right now
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+1 on the CHF/CL. I only use OEM barrels in all my builds
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I just didn't want a "registered" AK and happend upon an N-Pap at TRP at the end of December. Had it out once, first round jammed out of battery and stuck pretty good. Once I cleared it it ran like a watch. I can't afford to run 1,000 rounds a month so doubt ill ever shoot the non chrome barrel out, but if I do I suppose it can be replaced.

My only regret is the plastic furniture, would have preferred wood.
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and yes...non chrome is more accurate, but i dont think a 1/4" at 200 yards is worth losing barrel life
They're cheap. Just buy two, and part out the first one after the barrel wears out in a couple of decades
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