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Old 02-17-2014, 8:54 PM
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Default Who has the most competitive FFL transfer fees SF Bay

What's up Calgunners, haven't bought a gun in about 2 years and I know there has been a boat load of changes since then. Can You PM me how much your FFL did the transfer and DROS. might be picking up 3 C&R rifles and I would like to be able to save were I can. Thanks in advance.

SF East bay , Peninsula would work best.
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Old 02-17-2014, 9:45 PM
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Kevin Smith in Martinez charges $50 plus normal DROS fees which I believe is $25.
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The cheapest going rate I've found is $40 + DROS. There are a few FFLs that give that rate. Here are three:

RMB Enterprises, Milpitas
MP Arms, San Jose
Digital Instincts, Sunnyvale (Call him to confirm fees)
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Old 02-18-2014, 7:01 AM
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Kevin Smith in Martinez charges $50 plus normal DROS fees which I believe is $25.

Kevin is a good guy, but he's like 40 mins drive away. But maybe if I don't find anyone 10 mins away or so.
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Old 02-18-2014, 7:15 AM
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Best of luck to you!
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Mount Pleasant Arms in east San Jose charges $70 including DROS fee.

Keep in mind most FFLs are now charging tax on internet purchase transfers.
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Old 02-18-2014, 8:52 AM
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This going to be local PPT.
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all FFL's charge tax now, unfortunately. wish it weren't so.

Try Roger's Relics too if it's a convenient location. Lisa is great, and they take care of you. Might be $10 more than the prices quoted here.
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This going to be local PPT.
Local PPT has a state-mandated maximum fee limit of $10 above the DROS fee. That means that it is illegal for the FFL to charge you more than $35 (although some do try).

This assumes that we are referring to the same thing when we say PPT (face-to-face transfer of a firearm between two California residents). If there is any shipping involved, then it cannot be processed as a PPT.
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Old 02-19-2014, 2:22 AM
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+1 to Chris Chambers at digital-instincts.

I've done a few internet transfers and a PPT with him and all of them went smoothly and he was really flexible on pick up times and availability which was a big deal for me since I work graveyard and the PPT involved a coworker that also worked graveyard.
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Local PPT has a state-mandated maximum fee limit of $10 above the DROS fee. That means that it is illegal for the FFL to charge you more than $35 (although some do try).



This assumes that we are referring to the same thing when we say PPT (face-to-face transfer of a firearm between two California residents). If there is any shipping involved, then it cannot be processed as a PPT.


However, shops are allowed to charge an "additional" fee if it's more than 1 gun.


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However, shops are allowed to charge an "additional" fee if it's more than 1 gun.
Of course. And it is legal for them to charge for storage if you don't pick up at the end of the 10-day wait. BUT, the can't charge one penny over $35 for a single-gun PPT. Unfortunately, some of them think they can. Be sure to report them to CADOJ if they do.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:49 PM
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Another vote for Komrade Mikhail Smith.
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Hmm...I just picked up my 1911 from RMB in Milpitas. I paid $105 cash for fees, no receipt given. Did I get jacked?
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Hmm...I just picked up my 1911 from RMB in Milpitas. I paid $105 cash for fees, no receipt given. Did I get jacked?
Yes, a little, going rates average between $70-$100, I'd go back and demand a receipt.

EDIT - On second thought, maybe you got really jacked...Read post #3 above^^

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Hmm...I just picked up my 1911 from RMB in Milpitas. I paid $105 cash for fees, no receipt given. Did I get jacked?
If you bought new, the break down should've worked out to $40 FFL fee, $25 DROS, $40 sales tax.
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Very interesting data-point folks. So if there is a set price by law and some places charge OVER that and up to $100 and above. Would like to hear the perspective from the FFL point of view. At the end of the day there should be a regulated price for a transfer and not turn it to a profiteering avenue for some and gouging the customer. The no receipt for the transfer sounds shaddy. <<<< just me.
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Old 02-21-2014, 9:25 AM
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The legal maximum of $10 per gun is for PPT. On a new firearm transfer, the FFL can charge whatever they want. Typically, FFLs will not charge anything if you purchase the firearm from them. Otherwise, $40 is the lowest I've seen for FFL-to-FFL transfer. The $25 DROS is fixed and goes to the state. Sales tax on a new firearm is also a fixed rate, depending on your city. The math isn't that difficult.
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Thanks for the clarification and break down of fees. Yes, the gun was new. Time to go shopping again.
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Hmm...I just picked up my 1911 from RMB in Milpitas. I paid $105 cash for fees, no receipt given. Did I get jacked?
No.

Rob is good to go. He has been around a long time and is a trusted FFL in the firearms community. He has never given me a receipt, and everything always turns out just fine. He is old school, and a handshake seals the deal- no need for pieces of paper proving payment. Keep in mind, your fees included CA sales tax.
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+1 for MPArms, $65 transfer includes dros
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Mparms 65 for up to four guns if you can coordinate your purchases. Gave me great service.
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+1 on rob blanks. ( rmb enterprise ) great guy to deal with and no BS. Ive been dealing with him for years.
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J R in Livermore only charged me 35 out the door, I didn't even know about the place til I bought a couple guns off cal guns. Both transactions were there and the people were great!
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I actually just came from Kevin today.
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Hmm...I just picked up my 1911 from RMB in Milpitas. I paid $105 cash for fees, no receipt given. Did I get jacked?
I really wish that guy would give out receipts of the break down. Last time I did a transfer with him I calculated the tax based on the Milpitas Tax Rate and he charged me considerably more. I switched to Digital Instincts and stuck with him because he's more personable and his times are more flexible for my 8-5 working hours.
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I won't deal with Rob again. After hearing everyone here reccomend him, i did a transfer. his price was $10 more than everyone said and he charged tax when everyone said he didnt (no problem there) but after getting home and doing the math because i wasnt given a receipt, he did the taxes on my total invoice, which included shipping. I drove about 30+ mins each way, twice. Didn't feel very satisfied after everything was said and done.

I just did a sse with Peter and MP Arms. His prices are lower and I would definitely reccomend him.
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Roger's Relics was $75 Handgun, $65 long (includes DROS), but that was years ago.
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$45 including DROS http://fairfieldpawn.com/
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J R in Livermore only charged me 35 out the door, I didn't even know about the place til I bought a couple guns off cal guns. Both transactions were there and the people were great!
FYI, they charge $75 + DROS if it isn't a PPT.
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Made a map of these FFL deals here (aside from J&R, that isn't a deal): Bay Area FFL deals map

If you want to add anything, or fill in missing data, let me know, or if you want to help maintain the map, I can add you.
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My vote goes for Mike Weiss from kinetic energy tools. He's a home based ffl. Been using him for awhile. He comes to my business in San Bruno but I know he meets people at Starbucks sometimes.
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If you have a price and address I'll add to map
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Roger's Relics was $75 Handgun, $65 long (includes DROS), but that was years ago.
They raised their fee to $90 Handgun (includes DROS), which is a weird amount compared to the other home FFL's raising their rates to $75 (Including DROS).

I liked Roger's Relics because you knew there was an extremely low chance that they would ever fiddle with your prize during the 10 day wait.
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Updated the map, but $65 before DROS is quickly approaching being not a deal
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Updated the map, but $65 before DROS is quickly approaching being not a deal

What's the link of this map? and should we request for this thread a sticky?
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What's the link of this map? and should we request for this thread a sticky?
The link is in post #31.
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Mike Weiss (KET KINETIC ENERGY TOOLS) is in South SF and San Jose. Most convenient location if you are in north peninsula. 50 + dros + tax per firearm
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I won't deal with Rob again. After hearing everyone here reccomend him, i did a transfer. his price was $10 more than everyone said and he charged tax when everyone said he didnt (no problem there) but after getting home and doing the math because i wasnt given a receipt, he did the taxes on my total invoice, which included shipping. I drove about 30+ mins each way, twice. Didn't feel very satisfied after everything was said and done.

I just did a sse with Peter and MP Arms. His prices are lower and I would definitely reccomend him.
My transactions with Rob have been for long guns purchased online. In each case he asked me what the sale price was and charged CA sales tax on that amount. My understanding is that this practice is required by the state. Total fees equaled $40 FFL fee (per gun) + $25 (per DROS) + sales tax. Does $40 seem steep for the effort involved? Yes, it does. Does it compare well with the other FFLs in the area? Yes it does.

Pretty tough to blame Rob for the length of your commute.
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What's the link of this map? and should we request for this thread a sticky?
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...7&postcount=31
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