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View Poll Results: If it was up to you, what would you require shooters to wear at a public gun range?
Eye protection. 382 85.46%
Hearing protection. 407 91.05%
Hat/cap. (hot brass) 49 10.96%
Shirt. 265 59.28%
No sleeveless shirts. 84 18.79%
Shirt or jacket with collar. (hot brass) 26 5.82%
No offensive graphics or verbiage on clothing. 116 25.95%
No gang attire. 257 57.49%
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Then I better start training buck naked. The good part is I can use my non-manscaped chest hair and down lo fro as brass catchers.
No, that's going to the extreme. Just order something like this, and you'll be fine:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/298...rief-underwear

^ETA: There are only 3 available at that price!

If you find that too restrictive, I'd at least stick to a tactical jockstrap.
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No, that's going to the extreme. Just order something like this, and you'll be fine:
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/298...rief-underwear

If you find that too restrictive, I'd at least stick to a tactical jockstrap.
I intend on scaring the bad guy with my massive weaponry.


Then I'll take out my firearm.
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I intend on scaring the bad guy with my massive weaponry.


Then I'll take out my firearm.
i hope you dont live near SF, your strategy of shock and awe might seriously backfire.
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i hope you dont live near SF, your strategy of shock and awe might seriously backfire.
Shock and awe would become hugs and kisses.
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Eyes and ears should be the only requirement. Everything else is pretty common sense stuff.
What do you actually mean? Eye and ear protection should also be "common sense." They are made requirements at many ranges because sadly, not everyone has "common sense" and because of the grave harm (and resulting liability) that can come to someone not using such protections.

Not wearing clothing with crude verbiage/graphics and/or gang-wear in public (particularly where kids might be present) should also be "common sense", but that too is lost on many. For many it's a way to draw attention to themselves which they clearly crave, no matter how many people they might drive away from the range.

Same with things like closed-toed footwear and hats. It should be "common sense" to employ these articles too but many simply do not care or they simply don't know.

The "common sense" response on these matters all too often sounds like a lack of diligence/caring.
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You guys crack me up!
If your mamma didn't teach you how to properly dress yourself, chances are your poppa didn't teach you how to be safe with guns either.
If you want to look like some poltroon and be a distraction to others, or ignore safety rules, or play into the hands of the Anti's by being a poster child for dysfunctional nut jobs with guns, then I don't want to shoot along side you.
Do us all a favor and GROW UP!
Thanks. Someone gets it...

Far too many seem to be emotionally and intellectually stuck in the 8th grade. Collectively they are a liability for the pro-2A camp.
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What do you actually mean? Eye and ear protection should also be "common sense." They are made requirements at many ranges because sadly, not everyone has "common sense" and because of the grave harm (and resulting liability) that can come to someone not using such protections.

Not wearing clothing with crude verbiage/graphics and/or gang-wear in public (particularly where kids might be present) should also be "common sense", but that too is lost on many. For many it's a way to draw attention to themselves which they clearly crave, no matter how many people they might drive away from the range.

Same with things like closed-toed footwear and hats. It should be "common sense" to employ these articles too but many simply do not care or they simply don't know.

The "common sense" response on these matters all too often sounds like a lack of diligence/caring.

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the irony is killing me.
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What do you actually mean? Eye and ear protection should also be "common sense." They are made requirements at many ranges because sadly, not everyone has "common sense" and because of the grave harm (and resulting liability) that can come to someone not using such protections.

Not wearing clothing with crude verbiage/graphics and/or gang-wear in public (particularly where kids might be present) should also be "common sense", but that too is lost on many. For many it's a way to draw attention to themselves which they clearly crave, no matter how many people they might drive away from the range.

Same with things like closed-toed footwear and hats. It should be "common sense" to employ these articles too but many simply do not care or they simply don't know.

The "common sense" response on these matters all too often sounds like a lack of diligence/caring.
Hmm... this rant makes Post # 19 come to mind
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the irony is killing me.
You and me both, brother. I was thinking the exact same thing when I got to that part.

Bonus... everyone on Excelsior's block list has to drink a shot every time he says "projecting", "common sense", or "intellectual".






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What do you actually mean? Eye and ear protection should also be "common sense." They are made requirements at many ranges because sadly, not everyone has "common sense" and because of the grave harm (and resulting liability) that can come to someone not using such protections.

Not wearing clothing with crude verbiage/graphics and/or gang-wear in public (particularly where kids might be present) should also be "common sense", but that too is lost on many. For many it's a way to draw attention to themselves which they clearly crave, no matter how many people they might drive away from the range.

Same with things like closed-toed footwear and hats. It should be "common sense" to employ these articles too but many simply do not care or they simply don't know.

The "common sense" response on these matters all too often sounds like a lack of diligence/caring.
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Hmm... this rant makes Post # 19 come to mind
You mean this one?

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You need to hang a round a little more. This guy has a long standing habit of pontificating on on the minutea what others should and shouldn't do, and how they comport themselves. He starts threads like this then they devolve into him lecturing everyonoe on how they should adhere to his standard. He doesn't want your opinion, he wants to talk condescendingly to as many people as possible.

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Are Excelsior and Bigger Hammer related?
You may be on to something there......
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Far too many seem to be emotionally and intellectually stuck in the 8th grade.


Are you projecting?
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If it was up to you, what would you require shooters to wear at a public gun range?

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

I would require hearing protection and some form of eye protection. If they wanna show up and shoot nude, well, they have to be physically fit. And that rule will not be strictly enforced. If they wanna go shirtless or barefoot, FINE by me. At least folks will know that it is a fun range that is not a fashion facist...

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It was rich wasn't it.
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Far too many seem to be emotionally and intellectually stuck in the 8th grade. Collectively they are a liability for the pro-2A camp.
The irony here is delicious.
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I'd appreciate it if Excelsior just posted a picture of himself at the range, so we would all have a model of how to dress. I am a novice with this type of stuff and would appreciate a demo. Does anyone know this guy in real life?
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I'd appreciate it if Excelsior just posted a picture of himself at the range, so we would all have a model of how to dress. I am a novice with this type of stuff and would appreciate a demo. Does anyone know this guy in real life?
I don't believe this nonsense continues!
But hey, I haven't grown up yet, grown old, yes, but grown up?
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How do you define gang attire?
That's a very good question. The first thing would be specific colors for gangs operating in the local area. Local law enforcement does provide local businesses (such as dance clubs and bars) with intelligence on colors and other things (such as specific use of bandanna) and the clubs (as just one example) do make it part of their dress code.
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

I would require hearing protection and some form of eye protection. If they wanna show up and shoot nude, well, they have to be physically fit. And that rule will not be strictly enforced. If they wanna go shirtless or barefoot, FINE by me. At least folks will know that it is a fun range that is not a fashion facist...

LoL...
You mean like allowing naked people to shoot at a range where kids could be present? Yeah, right. Helluva a straw dog.
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When I took the newbies to the range. I've warned them about limp-wristing and hot brass potentially fly to their faces. What ever happen, keep the muzzle down range. I also loaded one round at a time until they are comfortable handling it. It is about educating/training, not rules.

OP, your intent is good but your approach may need some tweaks


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What's the problem with posting #1? I should have included an options for closed-toed footwear but what else should have been different?

The thread crappers forever stuck at 8th grade maturity/intellect levels are going to do everything they can to bring attention to themselves and to derail threads no matter what the subject or OP by doing what they do -- crapping on threads. I don't know how many times I have done a Google search on something firearms related, it brings me to a Calguns thread, the thread has some great discourse early on until the thread crapper arrive. Pretty sad actually.

It's remarkable how much time and energy some of the thread crappers spend on threads doing nothing but crapping away and never adding any value. If this place was someplace like www.thehighroad.com they would have been banned long ago, but it's not.

That's why I add those pathetic souls to my ignore list.
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It's interesting to note that about 5% fewer people feel eye protection should be mandatory than those who feel hearing protection should be mandatory. I would have guessed the two would be nearly identical.

"No gang attire" is also polling far stronger than I would have guessed although I do believe it would make a fine rule.
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I thought a loin cloth and gstring were appropriate attire at a range. guess I was wrong.
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Ok...this thread is already becoming a train wreck; but, I still want to chime in with my two cents.


At the range, I will wear whatever I please, thank you. While I understand the support for so-called "appropriate" shooting wear such as t-shirt, tennis shoes and jeans, that may or may not be what I am wearing when I need to draw my weapon.


Imagine that I just came from a meeting with a silk blouse, skirt and high heels. An attacker comes out from behind a car in the parking garage. Should I ask my rapist to hold for a moment while I change into something more sensible prior to pulling my CCW? OR should I be able and prepared to shoot in any outfit? You know, high heels throw off the balance of a regular shooting stance and a nice fitted blazer also impedes my ability to raise my arms to some extent. I need to know that stuff prior to my "big moment" - that's why I practice my shooting in whatever I think I need to practice in.


Hot brass? Please. I'm not a pansy. I once wore a rather sensible jeans, t-shirt and hoodie to the range and had the brass bounce off of the partition and go straight down the back of my hoodie. I have NO idea how I managed to do that; but, the cartridge rolled down my back and came to a rest on top of my bra strap. It then sat right there and sizzled into my back. Did I do the hot brass dance and muzzle sweep the room? No. I kept my focus and continued to shoot through the rest of my magazine, much to the amazement of all of the CalGuns people standing behind me. (And I had a rather sexy little burn mark in the center of my back for quite some time after that!)


So, while I understand the concern, I don't need well-meaning people trying to tell me that I shouldn't wear a tank top or shorts or what have you. The only thing I won't compromise on is eye and ear pro. I won't necessarily have either when I most need to shoot; but, I'm not going to practice without it.


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It's remarkable how much time and energy some of the thread crappers spend on threads doing nothing but crapping away and never adding any value. If this place was someplace like www.thehighroad.com they would have been banned long ago, but it's not.
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That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.
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That right there is sig worthy
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What's the problem with posting #1? I should have included an options for closed-toed footwear but what else should have been different?

The thread crappers forever stuck at 8th grade maturity/intellect levels are going to do everything they can to bring attention to themselves and to derail threads no matter what the subject or OP by doing what they do -- crapping on threads. I don't know how many times I have done a Google search on something firearms related, it brings me to a Calguns thread, the thread has some great discourse early on until the thread crapper arrive. Pretty sad actually.

It's remarkable how much time and energy some of the thread crappers spend on threads doing nothing but crapping away and never adding any value. If this place was someplace like www.thehighroad.com they would have been banned long ago, but it's not.

That's why I add those pathetic souls to my ignore list.

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Seriously???

350 posts because someone has delusions that ANYONE gives a crap abnout what they think someone else should wear!?!?

NONE OF YOUR DAMN BUSINESS!!

Now quit wasting my bandwidth with this nonsense!
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