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Old 12-26-2013, 7:03 PM
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Post Legality of building a firearm

Hey, I'm 16 and I was wondering if I could legally build an AR from an 80% receiver for my personal use. I know I could just have my father transfer a commercially manufactured one, but I like challenges and would love to join "The builders club". Any thoughts are appreciated.
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Old 12-27-2013, 6:07 AM
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Currently...
There are no Federal or CA laws that prohibits a minor from owning/possessing/building a Title 1 Rifle or Title 1 Shotgun.

Under Federal and CA laws, it is illegal for a minor to own/possess a Title 1 Handgun.

Therefore, as a minor...
It is legal for you to build a rifle or shotgun for personal use.
It is illegal for you to build a handgun.
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Can you explain the distinction of Title 1?
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Title 1 is what a regular citizen is legally allowed to own.
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Really? Is it illegal, then, for a minor to purchase a long gun? My impression was that it was all encompassing.

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Really? Is it illegal, then, for a minor to purchase a long gun? My impression was that it was all encompassing.

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Owning/possessing is okay for minors, purchasing is not.
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Really? Is it illegal, then, for a minor to purchase a long gun? My impression was that it was all encompassing.
Federal laws [18 USC 922 (b)(1)] and CA laws [PC 27505(a)] prohibits a FFL in transferring a firearm to a minor.

Federal laws and CA laws do not prohibit a minor from owning a rifle or shotgun.

Summary:
It is illegal under Federal and CA laws for a minor to buy a firearm.
It is legal under Federal and CA laws for a minor to make/own/possess a rifle or shotgun.



18 USC 922
(b) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell or deliver—
(1) any firearm or ammunition to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than eighteen years of age, and, if the firearm, or ammunition is other than a shotgun or rifle, or ammunition for a shotgun or rifle, to any individual who the licensee knows or has reasonable cause to believe is less than twenty-one years of age;

Penal Code 27505
(a) No person, corporation, or firm shall sell, loan, or transfer a firearm to a minor, nor sell a handgun to an individual under 21 years of age.
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Penal Code 27505
(a) No person, corporation, or firm shall sell, loan, or transfer a firearm to a minor, nor sell a handgun to an individual under 21 years of age.

It's helpful to include the exceptions to CA code:

27505. (a) No person, corporation, or firm shall sell, loan, or
transfer a firearm to a minor, nor sell a handgun to an individual
under 21 years of age.
(b) Subdivision (a) shall not apply to or affect the following
circumstances:

(1) The sale of a handgun, if the handgun is an antique firearm
and the sale is to a person at least 18 years of age.
(2) The transfer or loan of a firearm, other than a handgun, to a
minor by the minor's parent or legal guardian.
(3) The transfer or loan of a firearm, other than a handgun, to a
minor by a grandparent who is not the legal guardian of the minor, if
the transfer is done with the express permission of the minor's
parent or legal guardian.
(4) The loan of a firearm, other than a handgun, to a minor, with
the express permission of the minor's parent or legal guardian, if
the loan does not exceed 30 days in duration and is for a lawful
purpose.
(5) The loan of a handgun to a minor by the minor's parent or
legal guardian, if both of the following requirements are satisfied:
(A) The minor is being loaned the firearm for the purposes of
engaging in a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited
to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting
activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or
entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the
use of a firearm.
(B) The duration of the loan does not exceed the amount of time
that is reasonably necessary to engage in the lawful, recreational
sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or
agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture,
television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical
event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
(6) The loan of a handgun to a minor by a person who is not the
minor's parent or legal guardian, if all of the following
requirements are satisfied:
(A) The minor is accompanied by the minor's parent or legal
guardian when the loan is made, or the minor has the written consent
of the minor's parent or legal guardian, which is presented at the
time of the loan, or earlier.
(B) The minor is being loaned the firearm for the purpose of
engaging in a lawful, recreational sport, including, but not limited
to, competitive shooting, or agricultural, ranching, or hunting
activity, or a motion picture, television, or video production, or
entertainment or theatrical event, the nature of which involves the
use of a firearm.
(C) The duration of the loan does not exceed the amount of time
that is reasonably necessary to engage in the lawful, recreational
sport, including, but not limited to, competitive shooting, or
agricultural, ranching, or hunting activity, or a motion picture,
television, or video production, or entertainment or theatrical
event, the nature of which involves the use of a firearm.
(D) The duration of the loan does not, in any event, exceed 10
days.
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