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Old 10-14-2013, 3:06 AM
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Default Which LA range has the best ventilation?

I am mainly concerned about lead exposure, etc. Does anyone know a range with hi-tech, well-maintained ventilation system?

The place I visited recently only had 2 box fans as ventilation....
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Old 10-14-2013, 3:09 AM
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I've never been here but I'm thinking about going soon:

http://www.fieldtimetargetandtraining.com/

"Our ventilation system is the best in the industry. The air you breathe in the range is actually cleaner than the air outside!"

My personal solution to this issue has been:

1. Going mostly to outdoor ranges (Angeles, Burro)
2. Going only to indoor places when nobody else is there
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Old 10-14-2013, 6:40 AM
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If it was La Puente I shot there once a week for 6 months last year and after that my lead count was a 2. I think it is the hand to mouth exposure more so than airborne issues. Just my personal experience.

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Old 10-14-2013, 12:35 PM
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If it was La Puente I shot there once a week for 6 months last year and after that my lead count was a 2. I think it is the hand to mouth exposure more so than airborne issues. Just my personal experience.

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You mean your measurement was: 2 micrograms/deciLiter of lead in the blood? wow that is very low...
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Old 10-14-2013, 2:10 PM
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You could always wear a n52 dust mask if you are really worried.

I don't shoot enough to worry. I did notice a lot of black stuff when blowing my nose after the last LAX shoot.

It's more important to wash your hands thoroughly after the shoot and before Roscoes.
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I've been to a few local ranges. I've been to the one in Torrance (Sharpshooters) as well as the new one in Stanton (Field Time Target and Training).

I understand that Sharpshooters has been there for a while, but there is no contest. Field Time Target and Training wins hands down. The facility is SUPER clean, GREAT ventilation, and the staff is always helpful and friendly. I have never had any issues there.....and no, I am not related/sponsored by the range....but I do have a membership there.
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field time definitely has superb ventilation compared to most ranges
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i always thought Insight had the best ventilation.
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Old 10-14-2013, 3:02 PM
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I don't know who has good ventilation. But I do know LAX and Burbank Firing Range have pretty bad Ventilation.

It seems to be always hot and smokey and when I get back I always have black crud when I blow my nose.


I have been to a out of state range that had good ventilation and it feels so much better and cleaner.

I wish LAX would have redone their Ventilation when they did the remodel.
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Old 10-14-2013, 3:08 PM
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I've never been here but I'm thinking about going soon:

http://www.fieldtimetargetandtraining.com/

"Our ventilation system is the best in the industry. The air you breathe in the range is actually cleaner than the air outside!"

My personal solution to this issue has been:

1. Going mostly to outdoor ranges (Angeles, Burro)
2. Going only to indoor places when nobody else is there


Wow this place looks pretty cool thanks for the link.
I will be close to that area in a couple weeks and will definitely stop by and check it out.
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i always thought Insight had the best ventilation.
I was shooting some bulletman lead cast reloads with the lube strip that puts out a lot of smoke, at insight, I was inhaling all that smoke straight up. I shot the same reloads at field time and barely got any of the smoke, as soon as the smoke came out round after round, it got ventilated immediately.
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You mean your measurement was: 2 micrograms/deciLiter of lead in the blood? wow that is very low...
Correct.
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Wow this place looks pretty cool thanks for the link.
I will be close to that area in a couple weeks and will definitely stop by and check it out.
Were gonna go to the field time shoot @ Stanton tomorrow evening. Feel free to join us
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From what I can gather a case of occupational lead overexposure is defined as an adult (15 years of age or older) with a BLL greater than or equal to 25 mcg/dL.

I'm going to double check this my doctor, but around 2-5 is normal as far as I know.


The biggest problem is dust - brushing up casings, handling lead more than breathing in what you shoot in an indoor range. Those ventilation systems are generally very good and to EPA standards.

Washing hands and arms (if exposed) after shooting is a must. I generally change my shirt straight away afterwards as well, when I get home throw everything I am wearing in the wash and jump in the shower.

If you are not in a range all the time, I wouldn't worry too much and just take those precautions.
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Hands down Field Time in Stanton. You can't even smell any gunpowder, whatsoever.
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Hands down Field Time in Stanton. You can't even smell any gunpowder, whatsoever.
Or what whatwhy had for lunch
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If you're really worried about lead, I would wear a mask when shooting indoors, outdoors you should be OK. Wash your hands religiously after shooting, or handling ammunition especially brass and primers. It's also a good idea to never had food or drinks (especially drinks) open near the firing of firearms.
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If you're really worried about lead, I would wear a mask when shooting indoors, outdoors you should be OK. Wash your hands religiously after shooting, or handling ammunition especially brass and primers. It's also a good idea to never had food or drinks (especially drinks) open near the firing of firearms.
Guns, Ammo, Food, and Drinks mix at Burro all the time
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Yeah, well it's good to be young. Not to say that I known from experience, but I imagine our position on the matter may change after 30yrs of shooting.
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Angeles...Nothing beats the outdoors
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Yeah, well it's good to be young. Not to say that I known from experience, but I imagine our position on the matter may change after 30yrs of shooting.


Is my relentless harping on you about the dangers of Lead build up finally sinking in!!

What happened to the guy who sprinkles primer dust on his morning cereal!
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Is my relentless harping on you about the dangers of Lead build up finally sinking in!!

What happened to the guy who sprinkles primer dust on his morning cereal!
No way, are you kidding. I stopped sprinkling primer dust on cereal after the first time you mentioned the problem with lead. My biggest issue now is I like the primers for lubrication primer to seating them.
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Angeles...Nothing beats the outdoors


Also, Oak Tree!
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The first and only indoor range I've ever been to was the Rancho Magnum Range. My chest hurt for two days after a couple hours of shooting. Definitely not well ventilated!
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No way, are you kidding. I stopped sprinkling primer dust on cereal after the first time you mentioned the problem with lead. My biggest issue now is I lick the primers for lubrication prior to seating them.
I THINK this is what you meant? You really need to stop posting from your phone, Siri is messing you all up!



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BTW, I can't wait to see what my lead is this year after a year of shooting almost every weekend!
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I don't know who has good ventilation. But I do know LAX and Burbank Firing Range have pretty bad Ventilation.

It seems to be always hot and smokey and when I get back I always have black crud when I blow my nose.


I have been to a out of state range that had good ventilation and it feels so much better and cleaner.

I wish LAX would have redone their Ventilation when they did the remodel.
If you really want to choke on smoke try The Target Range in Van Nuys. The vents are ahead of the firing line so the smoke hangs in the air behind the line. I would get black soot in my nose from firing .22. I wore a P100 mask the past couple of times I went. I looked odd, but my lungs thanked me later.

Firing line Burbank, and Northridge are actually not too bad.
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Just got my test results today, 9.2. I have only been shooting indoors once a month this year but have had matches almost every weekend for much of the year. At least twice a month minimum. I think I need to work on keeping my hands away from my face more. The good news is my cholesterol is 196 and PSA .88!

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Angeles, all the fresh air you want!!
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