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Old 09-20-2013, 12:25 PM
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Default Chevy caprice vs Ford Interceptor

I took these pics, which would you choose?


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Old 09-20-2013, 12:32 PM
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Taurus?? Never mind, u fixed it...
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Old 09-20-2013, 1:07 PM
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That is definitely not a caprice.

The caprices made good cop cars because they were body on frame construction.
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Old 09-20-2013, 2:11 PM
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Looks like a Caprice to me:



L to R: Caprice, Tahoe, Impala. Google image 2013 chevy caprice ppv and 2013 chevy impala ppv.

OP, you let these guys sweat you into changing your topic headline - again?

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Old 09-20-2013, 2:26 PM
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Looks like a Caprice to me:



L to R: Caprice, Tahoe, Impala. Google image 2013 chevy caprice ppv and 2013 chevy impala ppv.

OP, you let these guys sweat you into changing your topic headline - again?
Thank you Samulex, i stand corrected. No sweat on my part.

Has anybody drove the Caprice yet?
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From the pictures it looks like you are asking if the discontinued crown vic is a better ride than the new subcompact model.....

The new cars have a tiny rear seat...

I am not sure if getting a 300+ pound customer into the new cars is an easy task.....
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Old 09-20-2013, 2:40 PM
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Thank you Samulex, i stand corrected. No sweat on my part.

No, you Were correct on the Chevy to begin with...

Has anybody drove the Caprice yet?
Haven't driven the new one but I like the numbers it's putting up: From Road & Track - "Although a 301-bhp 3.6-liter V-6 is available in this Holden-built machine, our car had the big 6.0-liter pushrod V-8 up front, which sends 355 bhp and 384 lb.-ft. of wheel-spinning torque to a limited-slip diff, via a smooth-shifting 6-speed automatic. According to the Michigan State Police, the heavyweight (4160 lb.) Caprice PPV hits 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and has a top speed of 154 mph."
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The new cars have a tiny rear seat...
I am not sure if getting a 300+ pound customer into the new cars is an easy task.....
Gonna have to find smaller gang bangers if you're gonna try to beat the record for most POSes crammed into the back seat at one time...
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A caprice and impala are usually in the same platform of car.

PPV is not for sale to the general public, and a different platform.

PPV is likely closer to the 2014 "SS". (Which should be called an Impala, but chevy marketing has had their head up their *** since 1996.
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Haven't driven the new one but I like the numbers it's putting up: From Road & Track - "Although a 301-bhp 3.6-liter V-6 is available in this Holden-built machine, our car had the big 6.0-liter pushrod V-8 up front, which sends 355 bhp and 384 lb.-ft. of wheel-spinning torque to a limited-slip diff, via a smooth-shifting 6-speed automatic. According to the Michigan State Police, the heavyweight (4160 lb.) Caprice PPV hits 60 mph in 5.9 seconds and has a top speed of 154 mph."
The ford interceptor is a close match with twin turbos. The caprice with the v8 seems like a torque monsters


Exclusive Ford EcoBoost technology gives you the acceleration and closing speed pursuit driving demands, and yet still delivers impressive efficiency. The available 3.5L EcoBoost kicks out an exhilarating 365 horsepower. Two turbochargers effectively eliminate turbo lag or hesitation. A high-pressure direct-injection fuel system delivers a mist of vaporized fuel directly into the cylinders during the intake stroke, allowing the engine to breathe more freely and contributing to its efficiency. The EcoBoost also has a flat torque curve, with peak power available throughout the rev range. Standard all-wheel drive helps officers manage all this power.

A 305-hp 3.7L V6 is standard on the sedan and utility models. Both naturally aspirated engines deliver 279 lb.-ft. of torque and feature Ti-VCT (twin independent variable camshaft timing). They also offer the flexibility of operating on E85 fuel. And they provide excellent fuel economy, which can help municipalities meet their financial goals. The commonality of standard powertrains on both the sedan and the utility offers great advantages for fleet management. One set of maintenance parts and interchangeable components minimize the complexity of caring for your fleet.
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Different agencies....different configurations.... Overall....depending on your agency's budget and needs...in general I prefer the Crown Vic.
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Crown Vic... They won't be around much longer.
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1978 Nova..........FTW

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Crown Vic.

That being said, Ron, one of the LT's that I know (retired from my agency) had a great story about going to the beach for evacuations when a hurricane was inbound. He said they got to the end of the bridge, and the wind started spinning the car around. He said he never scooted back across that bridge so fast in his life.....
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We are currently testing the caprice. I havent driven it but I'm hearing it feels like it has a ferrari engine under the hood and the steering is top notch. The interceptor is next for testing. Ive seen other departments use them and hear they are legit. Smaller on trunk space vs the crown vic but not as bad as the chargers. The word is if we go with the Interceptors our standard unit will be the SUV model, so im excited about that.
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Old 10-01-2013, 7:57 AM
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We bought 100 interceptors and are very happy with them. All aspects except space is better than our old CVs. Better acceleration, braking, cornering and it just drives better. So far so good for us. We only bought the sedans but I am told we will be buying a few suv models as well.
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I like old mid-90's Caprice. They were fast and comfortable, although Crown Victoria was driven at 135 MPH, and it was fine, also.
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I love the (now) discontinued Crown Vics.
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IMO turbos, especially twin turbos, on a cop car is asking for problems both in the way these kids drive these things these days and from a mechanical perspective.
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I'd love to see how the new ppv measures up against the 94*96 9c1 in the real world.

The p71 was a distant second to the mid 90's 9c1i imagine its still that way.
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1978 Nova..........FTW

I'll have to go one better Ron; 1976 Nova....FTW
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1972 Ford LTD with a 429......FTW!!!
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Ernie, was that a brand new 72 Ford when you were a brand new deputy or was that just an old beat up radio car with a lot of miles when you hired on years later (after 1976).

If it is the former, you got me beat, but if the latter, then

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Crown Vic.

EVERY time.
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I'd take the Tahoe when I had the choice. With those two since I haven't driven any of the new cars the Crown Vic wins.
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Caprice with the LS block motor option please, those crown vics are dogs
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This or nothing.

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Twin turbos - that ought to ease you back in your seat. I drove my brother's RX7-R2 with sequential turbos. Second turbo activated at 4K rpm. Talk about a white knuckle ride; closest thing I've experienced to a crotch rocket's power to weight ratio.

Yzernie is right. Turbos are considered consumables and heat kills 'em. For longevity, a supercharger would've been better.

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If it is the former, you got me beat, but if the latter, then
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We have the explorer puv. Overall I like it, some good, some bad. Coming from the crown Vic, totally different drive being all wheel drive and such. Great get up and go but top speed is lacking.
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