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Old 08-19-2013, 1:56 PM
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I was wondering if the advice in the link about storing fire-arms out of state is still applicable and legal for Californians as an option based on impending and future laws in the years to come?

This would be based on a potential AWB in Ca where an individual who was a law abiding citizen would not want to leave the state but not lose one's possessions.

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http://www.survivalblog.com/2013/06/...-of-state.html

The article suggests renting out of state "non bank" private vault storage containers, particularly in Nevada.

Also, if you guys have not done so, now would be a very good time to purchase a good revolver in .357 or .44 mag and lever action rifle in a 30-30 or preferably 45-70 caliber. They are not ideal of course but they are all we are about to have left.

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Old 08-19-2013, 2:36 PM
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Some people moved firearms to out of state storage facilities due to previous AW legislation. I have been to one of these facilities in Carson City, NV.

I have a house in a nearby state where I had a walk-in vault designed and constructed as part of the house. I included the vault since I knew I would not be living there full time and wanted more than just a plain gun safe and security system. Depending on what legislation is eventually passed and signed by the Governor, I will probably switch my primary residence to the house and cease to be a California resident, taxpayer and surf.
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it's legal to store firearms out of state. this has been done in the past when they passed the first aw ban in ca.
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I have a couple gun safes in my house in AZ. I just bought a new one to make more room because of the impending legislation.
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None of the state's business what I own in other states, other than what they can try and screw me for taxes on. I could take my BB'd AR over to Reno and fix it so it works like it SHOULD and California can't do squat about it. Of course if I want to bring it back I have to neuter it again
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If they make you dispose of your firearms of any type then they have to compensate you. An Attorney in NY is organizing a class action to force the state of New York to compensate firearm owners to the tune of $4 billion dollars. That is billion with a "B". The same thing could and should take place in California.

http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/law...-safe-act.html
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If they make you dispose of your firearms of any type then they have to compensate you. An Attorney in NY is organizing a class action to force the state of New York to compensate firearm owners to the tune of $4 billion dollars. That is billion with a "B". The same thing could and should take place in California.

http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/law...-safe-act.html
So which impending law the OP mentioned will force CA gun owners to dispose of their firearms? They are still bills right now, you know?
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So which impending law the OP mentioned will force CA gun owners to dispose of their firearms? They are still bills right now, you know?
here's list of current bills, banning AW, mags, etc..

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=776966
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One of my buddies is thinking about bring his small safe to my place in Nevada, I already keep everything there that the PRK thinks can get up on it's own and perform mass killings.
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here's list of current bills, banning AW, mags, etc..

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=776966
Maybe dblblu should read the list of bills, because none of the guns we currently own will be disposed of like he implies. Posting stuff about New York to mislead people about the impact of the current CA bills is FUD in my book.
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with so many bills on the agenda, it's not too hard to get confused, which probably one of the power grabbers' goals...

you do have to dispose of so called "AW" or take them out of CA if you don't want to "register" them...

and even worse for large cap mags/repair kits since there's no registration/grandfathering for them...
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Gosh, since the OP was talking about impending and future laws, I thought my post was relevant or, at least, interesting. I apologize to one and all if it was not. People should feel free to use "Report post" and maybe the moderator will delete it.
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If these go through (and they will), I have already secured storage space for a safe and my guns I refuse to pay more to register and have confiscated next year when they decide that they got away with violating the constitution in regards to magazines.

Question though, can I write off the expenses of complying with new laws?
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While storing firearms out of state is an option, one must consider the following.

-Storing at a friend/family members house: Aside from the risk of a friend or family member using, breaking, or stealing your stuff.... there is always a risk they could go 5150, get a restraining order, or become prohibited by other means. Your stuff could be taken before you get your pants on and could cost $$$$$ to get back.

While results will vary, you just never know. Proceed with extreme caution.

-Storing at a rental property or storage unit out of state: Theft is a huge risk right out of the gate. Once someone gets wise to you never being there or the contents being stored.... watch out. Then there is risk of fire, flood, and other damage.

Again, results will vary and proceed with extreme caution.

-Long term storage at any location: Even if your stuff is safe and sound, free from theft and all that other mother-jazz.... think of the elements (humidity, heat, cold, large temperature swings) can cause major damage to your babies. Probably more likely with outdoor storage units, in a garage or in a primarily vacant home that you don't pay to heat/cool.

Results will very, use caution.

Just some food for though. Really think it through before you pack up next weekend and head across the boarder to drop your stuff off.
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Does anyone know of an out of state business that stores firearms that is worth a damn?
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If they make you dispose of your firearms of any type then they have to compensate you. An Attorney in NY is organizing a class action to force the state of New York to compensate firearm owners to the tune of $4 billion dollars. That is billion with a "B". The same thing could and should take place in California.

http://www.nyfirearms.com/forums/law...-safe-act.html
Exactly. Illegal taking is just that. It's completely unconstitutional. Our betters are really pushing it with this garbage.
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So which impending law the OP mentioned will force CA gun owners to dispose of their firearms? They are still bills right now, you know?
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here's list of current bills, banning AW, mags, etc..

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=776966
the magazine bill is the one to watch since it takes legally owned property to be disposed of or better yet taken by the state.
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Does anyone know of an out of state business that stores firearms that is worth a damn?

I smell an extremely successful entrepreneur.
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I want to say ironsight or one of the shooting places in nevada was going to store guns at their facility in 2000.
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Some people make a long term loan to a trusted friend or family member who lives in "Free America".

You may be being deprived of the use of your property, but at least you get to decide who does get to use it.
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At least it won't end being destroyed by a STATIST.
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Does anyone know of an out of state business that stores firearms that is worth a damn?
you should run with this!
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I mentioned to my wife a month or so ago the idea of opening some sort of gun bank in the neighboring free states
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A range complex just outside the CA border that included either private safe/locker space in a climate controlled, secure area, or allowed you to check your guns in to an armory for long term storage might be a viable business.

The bigger question is whether insurance and other factors would make it cost prohibitive.
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A gun store in Eugene, Oregon already offer storage of firearms in their vault; they bought the vault when a bank there went belly up! Can't remember the name of the store ... Shouldn't be hard to google ...
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Found it .. Baron's Den and Shooting Range ... http://www.baronsden.com/services.php
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Bumping this thread as I think it will be very helpful now with all things considered.
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