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Old 09-05-2013, 2:36 PM
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Default There's no way the antis will make hay of this Riiight? Rim Fire Caused By Hunter?

Great .. Just GREAT...

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2013/09...nter-says.html

Jst the kinda publicity gun owners need right about now...
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if the fire was actually caused by a deer hunter, it was a bow hunter. rifle season doesn't start in that zone until 21 Sep.
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A number of California's most destructive recent fires have been caused by hunters.

But it doesn't seem to reflect on hunters or shooters as a group. The risk is that any users of the outdoors, if they are irresponsible, can cause fires. Including backpackers (like me) and other tree-huggers. I did not see any backlash against hunters in the wake of the Cedar Fire, possibly the biggest fire in California history.

Last month I spent nine days backpacking in Sequoia National Park. Some trail friends who were a day behind us on the same trail actually witnessed lightning start a small fire right in front of them. They were uphill from the fire so things got pretty scary for them until rain put the fire out.
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Old 09-05-2013, 2:51 PM
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The media is not reporting it as a bow hunter. Default public opionion always seems to go to the cliche' fat old cigar smoking drunk deer hunter with a Bambi rifle.
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The media is not reporting it as a bow hunter. Default public opionion always seems to go to the cliche' fat old cigar smoking drunk deer hunter with a Bambi rifle.
I Know you are right about that. When I first heard that it was caused by a hunter I thought rifle....not bow. I am not a hunter so these regulations are not know by me, much like the general public.
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I Know you are right about that. When I first heard that it was caused by a hunter I thought rifle....not bow. I am not a hunter so these regulations are not know by me, much like the general public.
It would be nice, though, if anyone going into the wilderness for any reason had sense enough not to start any fires.

Any jurisdiction requiring a permit (almost all the ones I backpack in) have provided instructions that fires are prohibited this year when issuing the permits.
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Heard that it was a hunter on KFI640 a while ago, i have to admit, i thought a firearm hunter too. the report io heard was that it was also an illegal fire too.
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The report I heard was that it was also an illegal fire too.
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We know the media is full of crap. Any earth muffin that should mention it too. Please get over it people.
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It's not confirmed yet.
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Great .. Just GREAT...

http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2013/09...nter-says.html

Jst the kinda publicity gun owners need right about now...
It was a campfire. An illegal campfire.
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Confirmed or unconfirmed, from the article:

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Aug. 17 was the opening day of the archery deer season in the region.
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Wear more tinfoil. Obviously it's a plot by the jew-owned media to portray hunters as irresponsible, and take away our ar15's because 'you can't use that to hunt'
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Of course it is well known in the media that illegal alien encampments and illegal pot growers are NEVER the cause of ANY wild fires. And it couldn't possibly be an environment-loving "green" hiker.

So it MUST BE either a gun owner or an off-roader.
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The fire reportedly started around 3:00 P.M. It was hot as hell, A bit early to cook dinner, why would he build a fire? The fire started on Clavey river drainage, near the Tuolumne. Several years ago 2 kayakers, husband and wife on an overnight river trip hiked up the Clavey for an evening swim. A pot grower shot from the ridge at them, a bullet went through the mans calf muscle. The whole group got out of there as fast as they could. At night Hetch Hetchy dam only releases "Fish Flow" of about 250 cfs ( cubic feet of water per second ) instead of the recreational flow of 1200 cfs. so getting out on low water was slow and therefore pretty scary ( Deliverance )
The sheriff flew in the next day in a chopper and found the pot operation. I have to think the shooter was about a dumb as they come. You shoot someone and there is a pretty good chance that a cop will show up.

Anyway, my point is; there has certainly been pot growers in that area in the past.

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We know the media is full of crap. Any earth muffin that should mention it too. Please get over it people.
I'm not sure what your non sequitur of a post is supposed to mean, but even the Forest Service is reporting the cause on their website.

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VALLEJO, Calif., Sept. 5, 2013 - Investigators from the U.S. Forest Service Law Enforcement & Investigations and Tuolumne County District Attorney's Office have determined the Rim Fire began when a hunter allowed an illegal fire to escape. There is no indication the hunter was involved with illegal marijuana cultivation on public lands and no marijuana cultivation sites were located near the origin of the fire. No arrests have been made at this time. The hunter's name is being withheld pending further investigation. The Rim Fire, which began Aug. 17 on the Stanislaus National Forest, has burned 237,341 acres and is 80 percent contained.
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That bad fire that destroyed lots of homes, that started in Fontana (?) some years ago, was determined to have started from a Catalytic Converter. There was a car stopped on the side of the road with some problem. It could have been the hot pipes, or even converter pellets that got blown out.

There's supposed to be some baffles to retain the pellets, but they can escape. And since they're active, they do get very hot. These can also start fires.

Therefore, it could very well have been an off-roader. I would say much more likely due to some vehicle than a hunter or someone with a campfire at that time.
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Firearms were not, apparently, involved. Only stupidity.
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When it comes to fires, we have a MUCH bigger issue on our hands than people realize. Arson may well be the next terrorist wave in America. Some say its already here and the Feds/State authorities are "smokescreening" the truth:

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the sanctimonious postulitulant cancerous sorosis hunter that started the fire is beef stew - riiiiiiiiiight?
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I'm not sure what your non sequitur of a post is supposed to mean, but even the Forest Service is reporting the cause on their website.
Stirring the pot again Obama voter?
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Heard that it was a hunter on KFI640 a while ago, i have to admit, i thought a firearm hunter too. the report io heard was that it was also an illegal fire too.
Heard that too, and thought the same thing. Good to know it was a bow hunter but, still bad he didn't adhere to rules of the outdoors on open fires. If they find fault with him the state might charge him for the costs. Bad all the way around.
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Heard that too, and thought the same thing. Good to know it was a bow hunter but, still bad he didn't adhere to rules of the outdoors on open fires. If they find fault with him the state might charge him for the costs. Bad all the way around.
its not good that he was a hunter of any kind.
dude shuldve keep his campsite under control. thats all there is to it.
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Wear more tinfoil. Obviously it's a plot by the jew-owned media to portray hunters as irresponsible, and take away our ar15's because 'you can't use that to hunt'
Dafaq did you just say?

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If they find fault with him the state might charge him for the costs.
I strongly suspect he is going to jail.

What manner of dumbass builds a campfire in current conditions?
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The fire reportedly started around 3:00 P.M. It was hot as hell, A bit early to cook dinner, why would he build a fire? The fire started on Clavey river drainage, near the Tuolumne. Several years ago 2 kayakers, husband and wife on an overnight river trip hiked up the Clavey for an evening swim. A pot grower shot from the ridge at them, a bullet went through the mans calf muscle. The whole group got out of there as fast as they could. At night Hetch Hetchy dam only releases "Fish Flow" of about 250 cfs ( cubic feet of water per second ) instead of the recreational flow of 1200 cfs. so getting out on low water was slow and therefore pretty scary ( Deliverance )
The sheriff flew in the next day in a chopper and found the pot operation. I have to think the shooter was about a dumb as they come. You shoot someone and there is a pretty good chance that a cop will show up.

Anyway, my point is; there has certainly been pot growers in that area in the past.

The fire was started at 3pm cuz it takes quite awhile to cook up fresh tortillas n steak salsa.....

Agreed that the mtn farmers could be highly suspect. Seeing how careless those bastards are with leaving garbage and toxic pollutants all over....
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