2013 CA State IDPA Championship.

[3GunFunShooter]

As Gryff stated, make sure your gear is legal! That your gun fits inside the box!!! LOL! (inside joke between me and Gryff)

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by 3GunFunShooter

As Gryff stated, make sure your gear is legal! That your gun fits inside the box!!! LOL! (inside joke between me and Gryff)

Jeez dude, just crank the sight down and aim higher. You'll be fine.

[3GunFunShooter]

LOL!

[missiondude]

Originally Posted by rmatt

pot, meet kettle.

i'm just following in your best sand bagging tradition.

when i start beating you, the trash talking will stop.

Just for that, if you get a master bump at the nationals in SSP, I WILL rat you out as you will instantly become an expert in CDP under the new rule book. Just to be safe, sand bag the nationals...

[tenclip]

Question for those that have read the new rule book. If you run dry while out in the open and initiate a reload (but cannot shoot again until behind cover) can you let the EMPTY mag drop to the ground on your way to cover and leave it? I know if you tactical reload (behind cover) you have to retain the mag but the slide lock reload does not say so. It would seem 3.7-3.12 would have covered it. So retention is ONLY when the mag still has ammo or one is in the chamber yes?

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by tenclip

Question for those that have read the new rule book. If you run dry while out in the open and initiate a reload (but cannot shoot again until behind cover) can you let the EMPTY mag drop to the ground on your way to cover and leave it? I know if you tactical reload (behind cover) you have to retain the mag but the slide lock reload does not say so. It would seem 3.7-3.12 would have covered it. So retention is ONLY when the mag still has ammo or one is in the chamber yes?

Yes. And remember that you are no longer allowed to reload while "advancing" in a stage (ie moving to next shooting position...even if behind cover). Going dry in the open is the only time you are allowed to reload on the move.

[RoundEye]

Originally Posted by tenclip

Question for those that have read the new rule book. If you run dry while out in the open and initiate a reload (but cannot shoot again until behind cover) can you let the EMPTY mag drop to the ground on your way to cover and leave it? I know if you tactical reload (behind cover) you have to retain the mag but the slide lock reload does not say so. It would seem 3.7-3.12 would have covered it. So retention is ONLY when the mag still has ammo or one is in the chamber yes?

Yes, that is my understanding as well. If you run dry, slide lock no rounds in the chamber or magazine, the magazine would not need to be retained.

[tenpercentfirearms]

SSP SS Glock 35

Dude hardly anyone from our crew signed up. galekowitz is going to be there so it will still be epic. And he is shooting his CDP gun.

[markzx10r]

looking forward to this match,, SDPS puts on a good monthly match so this should be awesome,,

CDP-MM michigan arms 1911

[galekowitz]

Desert Rat said he sent his in on the 19th. He's not on the waiting list and his check hasn't been cashed.

[TATB]

When will the stage descriptions be posted?

SSP MA, Glock 34.

[PM720]

Originally Posted by tenpercentfirearms

SSP SS Glock 35 + sling

Dude hardly anyone from our crew signed up. galekowitz is going to be there so it will still be epic. And he is shooting his CDP gun.

Fixed it for you!

Scott

[PM720]

Originally Posted by Gryff

If it is, my advice is the make absolutely sure that your gear is legal. Since this is a sanctioned match, they will not cut you any slack (nor should they) if your gun doesn't make weight, your ammo doesn't make chrono, or your gear isn't IDPA legal.

And be sure to use the new rulebook for checking these items. It will be in effect at the time of the match.

I don't remember, did they use the box at the regional?

Scott

[PM720]

Originally Posted by John M

Every shooter gets one ticket that will put them in the drawing for winning one of two Glocks. Tickets for the other guns and the Dillon will be sold. The first ticket drawn for the 4 other guns and Dillon will get their first choice, 2nd ticket drawn second choice and so on.

Yeah, I guess I was a little surprised by this as well. All the prizes at the regional were random draw based in the ticket you get with your entry. I guess maybe because of the extra guns and gear? I guess I need to buy 100 tickets for a shot at the Dillon?

Scott

[ES13Raven]

Originally Posted by PM720

Fixed it for you!

Scott

Too funny

[ES13Raven]

Originally Posted by PM720

I don't remember, did they use the box at the regional?

Scott

Yes, but did not chrono.

[tenclip]

Gryff and RoundEye thank you very much for your take on the rules. I want to make sure I understand everything as the new rules go into effect for the state event, as well as maintain clarity between USPSA and IDPA.

[PM720]

Originally Posted by ES13Raven

Yes, but did not chrono.

True but I have chrono'ed my stuff and it SHOULD be way good. Probably through some other stuff in the car just in case though.

Scott

[Jerrywho]

Originally Posted by rmatt

i'm just following in your best sand bagging tradition.

Great to know.......

CDP Sharpshooter Limited-10 2011 or Glock 21 long slide if IDPA HQ approves it.

[AUstate]

Originally Posted by reckoner

Is this anyone else's first sanctioned match?

My first sanctioned Match as well.


Marksmen SSP Springfield XD full size .40

[Scotty]

Originally Posted by PM720

True but I have chrono'ed my stuff and it SHOULD be way good. Probably through some other stuff in the car just in case though.

Scott

This is a Tier 3 match. So you better make sure your ammo is good or you shoot for no score.

1.2.1.3.13. Chronographing competitor ammunition is required.
1.2.1.3.14. Equipment checks are required. Equipment checks include ensuring the gun is within
weight limits and fits in the “IDPA box” as specified in the Equipment Rules section. Proper
placement and design of ammunition storage device holders and holsters must also be checked.

[PM720]

I figured at 136,000PF so I should be way good!

Now to find this mythical box you speak of!

Scott

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by Scotty

This is a Tier 3 match. So you better make sure your ammo is good or you shoot for no score.

1.2.1.3.13. Chronographing competitor ammunition is required.
1.2.1.3.14. Equipment checks are required. Equipment checks include ensuring the gun is within
weight limits and fits in the “IDPA box” as specified in the Equipment Rules section. Proper
placement and design of ammunition storage device holders and holsters must also be checked.

Uh oh...wonder if I'm going to make chrono...

Then again, I am shooting SSR. As long as my bullets are moving slightly faster than a stiff wind, I'm legal!

[rmatt]

Jerrywho, you've beat me before so it's all wide open.

[Scotty]

Originally Posted by Gryff

Uh oh...wonder if I'm going to make chrono...

Then again, I am shooting SSR. As long as my bullets are moving slightly faster than a stiff wind, I'm legal!

Mental note, extra scrutiny on Gryff's ammo. Oh I forgot to mention I'm one of the guys running the chrono.

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by Scotty

Mental note, extra scrutiny on Gryff's ammo. Oh I forgot to mention I'm one of the guys running the chrono.

105 power factor for SSR...I can throw the bullet fast enough to make power.

[PM720]

Originally Posted by Gryff

105 power factor for SSR...I can throw the bullet fast enough to make power.

Yeah, I was going to say if it makes it out of the barrel it should make PF. Now, will it penetrate the cardboard is another story!

Scott

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by PM720

Yeah, I was going to say if it makes it out of the barrel it should make PF. Now, will it penetrate the cardboard is another story!

If the dent leaves a grease ring, then the benefit of the doubt goes to the shooter!

[missiondude]

I was running a shooter at a match 2 weeks ago that had a bullet bounce off the cardboard. It was a 40 S&W that he loaded into his 45 ACP 1911. The unfired cartridge that was in front of said bullet did go through the cardboard, although it was sideways when it went through. Sounded funny when he fired, so he got the loudest STOP he had ever heard. They heard it next door. Turns out he had grabbed some of my ammo off the bench in error. Glad he did not blow up his gun.

[John M]

PM720.. The prize table will work exactly like it did at out regional last year. Door prizes will be included in the shooters bag. The two Glocks are in addition to door prizes. Tickets will be sold 1 For $10 and 3 for $25 for the other four guns and Dillon 650.

In additon, there will be a strict equip check and chrono is mandatory per the NRB.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Originally Posted by PM720

Fixed it for you!

Scott

Actually, the Taft IDPA crew was thinking of wearing slings the whole match. I still might. Keep the SOs on their toes and the next time Chad says, "You wouldn't normally wear that." I can say I most certainly do.

I probably normally don't run around with my baby carrier on my head either! LOL.

[Whiskey_Sauer]

Originally Posted by tenpercentfirearms

Actually, the Taft IDPA crew was thinking of wearing slings the whole match. I still might. Keep the SOs on their toes and the next time Chad says, "You wouldn't normally wear that." I can say I most certainly do.

I probably normally don't run around with my baby carrier on my head either! LOL.

You should show penance for your sins by hauling a baby carrier around in every stage of the match next month.

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by tenpercentfirearms

Actually, the Taft IDPA crew was thinking of wearing slings the whole match. I still might. Keep the SOs on their toes and the next time Chad says, "You wouldn't normally wear that." I can say I most certainly do.

I probably normally don't run around with my baby carrier on my head either! LOL.

Actually, you need a couple pictures of you wearing one while working. Then show them to Chad the next time you see him.

[tenpercentfirearms]

I actually have a newborn. I should snap some photos of me hauling her around with that strap. Better yet, I might just shoot the whole match with her strapped to my side!

Actually, Taft IDPA is doing Fabulous Ferrous Fracas this month, but I think in October I might make a stage where you have to haul a baby carrier around on a strap. Why not?

I was thinking of getting a button made of it and wear it on my vest. I still might.

Now don't forget, we are just having fun here. I agree with the FTDR call and am in no way disparaging the Winton match. However, you have to admit it was about as fun and legit as a FTDR as you can get. I honestly am glad I got it. I had a great and fun match and the FTDR was part of it.

I however, won't be doing it again. I learned my lesson.

[PM720]

Originally Posted by tenpercentfirearms

However, you have to admit it was about as fun and legit as a FTDR as you can get. I honestly am glad I got it. I had a great and fun match and the FTDR was part of it.

I however, won't be doing it again. I learned my lesson.

Honestly, I'm glad you got it too! Feel free anytime!

And congratulations on the newborn. A future champion I am sure!

Scott

[reckoner]

Stupid question: does my IDPA card need to be physically signed with my classification, or will the printout from the IDPA website be sufficient?

[Gryff]

Originally Posted by reckoner

Stupid question: does my IDPA card need to be physically signed with my classification, or will the printout from the IDPA website be sufficient?

That's up to the match staff, but the new rules say that the database on the HQ website is the only official record of classification (as of Oct. 1st). Most matches will accept a printout of your classification page as your proof, but you should email the match staff directly.

[RoundEye]

Originally Posted by Gryff

That's up to the match staff, but the new rules say that the database on the HQ website is the only official record of classification (as of Oct. 1st). Most matches will accept a printout of your classification page as your proof, but you should email the match staff directly.

So that brings up an interesting question. The club I classified with back in February did not report scores to IDPA HQ, so all I have is my signed membership card which was accepted for registration for the match. Since the match is taking place after 10/01, and under the new rulebook do I need to worry about contacting the club and insuring that the correctly report my classification?

I have an email into IDPA HQ to confirm.

[RoundEye]

I received a response from IDPA HQ, and they updated my record in their DB. I emailed them a copy of my signed classification/membership card, and a copy of my scoresheet from my most recent classifier.

They did not say if this was required or not, but it seemed like it was done just to prevent any issues.

[ES13Raven]

Originally Posted by John M

chrono is mandatory per the NRB.

So what happens if your ammo doesn't make chrono? Can you use different ammo and re-chrono?