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Old 04-25-2013, 11:34 AM
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A former city council member and chairman of the San Diego Metropolitan Transit System board qualified.

Interesting huh? But us poor shlubs of course need no such rights.

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One CA CCW holder I spoke with said it was easier than one would expect. His only reason was that "he owns a business that requires the added security" but he says he only uses so he can ride his motorbike to the range. Go figure :\

Did he get it in SD county? Cause there are a few counties I hear that are not that hard to get a permit. San Bernardino County is supposedly one of them I guess that is why I was asking.
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San Bernardino County is supposedly one of them I guess that is why I was asking.
^This is where he's from IIRC.
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well I don't want some keyboard commando carrying a gun just because they want "protection."
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We have the police for protection, ...
You can't be serious? The police respond AFTER a crime has been committed. They are not out there "protecting" you from anything.

Unbelievable!
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You can't be serious? The police respond AFTER a crime has been committed. They are not out there "protecting" you from anything.

Unbelievable!
I can attest to this. 6/12/06 in Oakland, CA I was confronted by 2 thugs, one had a .38. They tried robbing me as I just parked my car. I fought them off. grabbed the gun it fired and I took the round through and though both legs. Still managed to fight them off and take the shooter's gun and fire the 5 remaining rounds back at them as they fled. Called out for help and neighbors came out to see the commotion. By that time I was bleeding pretty bad so I called 911 myself. An Ambulance was 1st on the scene. I dont recall seeing a cop until one took a statement from me at the hospital. When seconds count, OPD is just minutes away!!! They're great at parking enforcement though, I'll give them that much!





Of course CA gun laws in all their effectiveness did their job keeping guns from the teen who used one to rob me. (sarcasm) I frequently tell the story when debating antigun libtards and all you ever hear afterwards are crickets once they realize that Im not just parroting the talking points that others are. Feel free and use my story next time someone tries to tell you what you need or don't need for self protection and watch them scatter. So please I dare someone, tell me why I don't deserve to level the playing field by having a CCW when scumbags clearly use concealed weapons to their advantage when victimizing the lawful?

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^This is where he's from IIRC.
Yeah. Well I am glad he was able to get it. I just wish all parts of cali were easy to get permits as other states.
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Really? Because that's actually happened to me. I was shot in Oakland, CA in 2006. Police report filed and even though I live in S.D. now I still feel a CCW would be warranted give the amount of dumbfuggery we live amongst today.
But (in their words) you're in no more special danger than anyone else. Simply because you were, once, the victim of a violent crime doesn't mean you're any more likely to be one again.

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One CA CCW holder I spoke with said it was easier than one would expect. His only reason was that "he owns a business that requires the added security" but he says he only uses so he can ride his motorbike to the range. Go figure :\
In San Diego, having a business counts... but I hear you need to cough up stacks of paperwork to prove to them it's a "real" business that involves "enough" money and "enough" risk. "I have a business" isn't enough... "Here's mountains of proof that I have a business and my cash flow and my reason for needing to carry cash" might be.
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"I have a business" isn't enough... "Here's mountains of proof that I have a business and my cash flow and my reason for needing to carry cash" might be.
Being at risk doesn't cut it here in San Diego but being rich and connected does!

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Your kidding me right?! So will you tell the person who is about to do harm to you and possibly your loved ones to "just wait till the cops get here, you going to be in trouble!". The police have a "great" response time, equivalent to lightning!...clown!
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Truth be told brother! Glad your okay and i share you frustration and pain!
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CCW not gonna happen here lol!
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Just raise some money and get behind a good candidate. Money talks. Sacramento probably over the course of time allowed fewer CCWs than SD and now it's a shall issue County. Basically if you weren't a politician working at the State Capitol you couldn't get a permit. Now they do about 3000 approvals a month.
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Join this:

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Donate $$$

Get a BADGE and a CCW

Joining the HDSA

Membership to the Honorary Deputy Sheriffs' Association is offered to those individuals who have an interest in supporting law enforcement and specifically the San Diego County Sheriffs' Department.

Members must be of both high character and ethics as well as willing to spend time to support San Diego Law enforcement.

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Honorary Deputy $325 Annual Dues
All regular membership luncheon meetings Badge Plaque
Dues after the first year, $200
Honorary Sergeant $500 Annual Dues
All regular membership luncheon meetings, Recognition Plaque with badge
Dues after the first year, $250
Honorary Lieutenant $750 Annual Dues
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Dues after the first year, $375
Honorary Captain $1,000 Annual Dues
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What? Could you elaborate?
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Old 06-08-2013, 11:21 PM
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Don't feed into it brother! IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DONATE. YOU ALREADY PAY THEIR SALARY! HOW MUCH MORE "BRIBERY" DO YOU NEED?!
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Don't feed into it brother! IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY YOU DONATE. YOU ALREADY PAY THEIR SALARY! HOW MUCH MORE "BRIBERY" DO YOU NEED?!
Haha. Well I just never heard of it before and wanted to know how in the H**L does that get you a badge and CCW through this?
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LMFAO. Copy that!
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How interesting is it there is a CCW training ad at the bottom of the page!
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If a person does not feel safe in their own neighborhood, we as a community owe it to them to help them feel safe. Allowing only the criminals for have weapons is not the solution.
I am completely for a liberal allocation of LTC concealed permits, however the logic you presented just isn't correct.

First, Personal protection SHOULD BE a legitimate and sufficient reason for a CCW permit HOWEVER....understand that what YOU personally feel and interepret doesn't constitute an absolute. Just because someone may be paranoid that their community is unsafe doesn't mean it actually is because YMMV from someone else's.

Crime rate percentages and statistics of your surrounding areas are what should be applied to personal protection justifications, not someone's perceived or interpreted personal security, or lack there of.

In the end, I'm on your side, I just don't think a personal protection justification should be because "I FEEL unsafe".

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Any nieghborhood can be unsafe.
That is the real world. And of course as one drives through the world, it takes one through many "interesting" places.
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Any nieghborhood can be unsafe.
That is the real world.
This. too many people live in their own blissfully ignorant "bubbles" and don't realize that criminals aren't barred from "good neighborhoods".
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Any nieghborhood can be unsafe.
That is the real world. And of course as one drives through the world, it takes one through many "interesting" places.
The "can be" or "potential" game, holds little worth in the eyes of your rival.

For example, to anti-gun personnel, all stereotypical black rifles and whatever else is popular is "potentially" dangerous and based off that shouldn't be allowed.

we know thats completely absurd because there are obviously millions of responsible firearm owners in America.


now switch to devil's advocate:

A select CCW applicant views everywhere outside his or her domicile as "potentially" dangerous and based off that should be allowed to carry.

THEY think this is absurd for whatever x y and z reasons anti's believe in.


the "potential" game is a weak one, which is why don't necessarily agree with their regulations, but understand them because if roles were reversed we'd be doing the same thing.

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You need to be sponsored by an existing member, first of all.

Also, while it looks like HDSA membership == CCW, the HDSA is chock-full of people with "connections" and business owners... the very folks who are more likely to be able to get a CCW in San Diego anyway.

It isn't a "secret handshake" that gets you a CCW.
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Haha. Well I just never heard of it before and wanted to know how in the H**L does that get you a badge and CCW through this?
I'm certain the "badge" is A) very clearly NOT a Deputy's badge, and B) encased in Lucite or something. It's a memento, not something you can wave around to get out of tickets :-)
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Hey guys, I am looking forward to TRY to get a CCW in SD next year. I dont know a lot about CCW but I am learning as I go. I did a little research on CCW in SD and I came across this- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Pe...y_of_San_Diego

Now if I am reading this right, he got turned down the 1st time due to open carry laws but now that is gone, self defense should be back in as "Good Cause". I am not sure if its still pending or what but hope someone can point it out to me.

Second: someone mentioned about COUNTIES. If that is so then I live in North County San Diego & my city does not have Sheriff. Does that mean I have a better chance of getting one then where Sheriff Gore roam?
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I am not sure if its still pending or what but hope someone can point it out to me.
The case is still pending. Prior, the court was waiting on other cases to be decided first (Mehl), but that case has since been resolved.

We are hoping for a decision in Peruta by the end of 2013.

If you have not listened to the most recent oral arguments, I would suggest you take the time and listen, it's pretty good.

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/vi..._id=0000010109
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The case is still pending. Prior, the court was waiting on other cases to be decided first (Mehl), but that case has since been resolved.

We are hoping for a decision in Peruta by the end of 2013.

If you have not listened to the most recent oral arguments, I would suggest you take the time and listen, it's pretty good.

http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/vi..._id=0000010109
Oh alright thanks. I will check that out.
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Bill Kolendar, who was the sheriff before "Ruby Ridge" is in a nursing home suffering from Alzheimer’s.

He only gave CCW's to his friends.

Karma is a *****!

It will take a court case for citizens to win back their rights from the **** birds who were put in charge.
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Second: someone mentioned about COUNTIES. If that is so then I live in North County San Diego & my city does not have Sheriff. Does that mean I have a better chance of getting one then where Sheriff Gore roam?
'North County' refers to northern San Diego county, not a separate county. Gore is still your Sheriff (and mine too, unfortunately).
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Really? Because that's actually happened to me. I was shot in Oakland, CA in 2006. Police report filed and even though I live in S.D. now I still feel a CCW would be warranted give the amount of dumbfuggery we live amongst today.

One CA CCW holder I spoke with said it was easier than one would expect. His only reason was that "he owns a business that requires the added security" but he says he only uses so he can ride his motorbike to the range. Go figure :\

If general self protection were recognized by Gore, I'm sure it would be easy for many of us.

Odds of him ever discovering the constitution are slim to none though.

So would a part time side business of selling and transporting gold coins to fellow firearms owners locally work? LOL

What qualifies as a "business that requires the added security"?
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It sure would be nice if somebody dusted off Article II Section 1 of the Constitution. That's the one about full faith and credit being given to the records (such as CCW) of other states

Of course, the second half of that section says the federal government regulates how that happens, so we'd be SOL there too given the current political climate.
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Hey guys, I am looking forward to TRY to get a CCW in SD next year. I dont know a lot about CCW but I am learning as I go. I did a little research on CCW in SD and I came across this- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Pe...y_of_San_Diego

Now if I am reading this right, he got turned down the 1st time due to open carry laws but now that is gone, self defense should be back in as "Good Cause". I am not sure if its still pending or what but hope someone can point it out to me.

Second: someone mentioned about COUNTIES. If that is so then I live in North County San Diego & my city does not have Sheriff. Does that mean I have a better chance of getting one then where Sheriff Gore roam?
North county is not actually a county. We are all still San Diego county. Good luck in getting your CCW. Keep us informed if you do. But like OldBlueMan said Gore is still all of our sheriff for the time being.
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I have a friend who's getting a ccw later this month but he has a legit reason to carry, he's a retired federal LEO

so bc you saw a movie at a movie theater, you think you should get a ccw? uh ok.
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according to the San Diego County Sheriff's Dept, a legit reason would be a documented history of threats against a citizen. otherwise, no, the average joe blow doesn't need to carry a weapon "just because"
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criminals aren't "allowed" to carry, they do what they want. We have the police for protection, no some gung ho Internet crusader hot shot. Besides, if you don't like it here, move to AZ.
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well I don't want some keyboard commando carrying a gun just because they want "protection."
Troll! How many different usernames are you using now. Jackson_DKMG, The Paper Pimp, S470FM

Did you ever give the money back to the member you never shipped the parts to? Notice the number, 619-746-1490

Just want to let the local SD guys of a not so ethical member.


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So would a part time side business of selling and transporting gold coins to fellow firearms owners locally work? LOL

What qualifies as a "business that requires the added security"?
They want to see a "real business", not a hobby that you use for an excuse to get a CCW. I'm told they ask for tax records, business license, bank statements, etc. to prove it's "real"... and as yet another way to avoid issuing.

My best suggestion is to donate to the groups that are funding the various lawsuits, because the courts is the ONLY way California is going to remove "discretion" from the Sheriffs and get shall-issue.
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