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[FoxTrot87]

Originally Posted by HowardW56

in which case?

Dorothy Mckay vs Sandra Hutchens

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by FoxTrot87

Dorothy Mckay vs Sandra Hutchens

That doesn't show up on the docket, and the motion is on the calandar for Monday...

[FoxTrot87]

I only skimmed through it so I might have misread.

http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/...Injunction.pdf

[mrrsquared79]

Ladies and gentlemen-

Sandra Hutchins has publicly announced she is fighting breast cancer.

I have to admit the thought did cross my mind on how this is good for us but then realized that is too selfish of me. My mom died of breast cancer soo I wish her the best and hope she realizes her time may be cut short and decides to spend ALL with her family. Take that how you wish...

[Doheny]

We're not going to see any changes in their position until she is no longer the sheriff. I was in a meeting with an OCSD Capt & Lt recently; they said there won't be any visible changes in service delivery or policy while she is undergoing treatment (the meeting was part of my work, it wasn't CCW related).

[FoxTrot87]

the SAPD's SWAT commander and a few city's area commanders feel our pain...

[DannyInSoCal]

Originally Posted by mrrsquared79

Ladies and gentlemen-

Sandra Hutchins has publicly announced she is fighting breast cancer.

I have to admit the thought did cross my mind on how this is good for us but then realized that is too selfish of me. My mom died of breast cancer soo I wish her the best and hope she realizes her time may be cut short and decides to spend ALL with her family. Take that how you wish...

My dad is the first to admit what an aHole he was before he went through his fight with cancer.

It really changed him.

I'm just saying...,

[mrrsquared79]

Originally Posted by DannyInSoCal

My dad is the first to admit what an aHole he was before he went through his fight with cancer.

It really changed him.

I'm just saying...,

I do hope she wins the fight against cancer and I sure hope that she does have a change in heart but I don't think she will change that much to where she sees it fit to allow more liberal issuance of LTC permits. Just sayin...

[siscokid]

How do I donate to the orange county CCW? I'm planning on donating to CGN period but I would also like to donate to CCW

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by siscokid

How do I donate to the orange county CCW? I'm planning on donating to CGN period but I would also like to donate to CCW

CGF Carry License Sponsorships or CGF Donation Page

[wildhawker]

Originally Posted by siscokid

How do I donate to the orange county CCW? I'm planning on donating to CGN period but I would also like to donate to CCW

CGF is the 501(c)3 nonprofit that is bringing the lawsuits and education to advance your rights, including the Carry License Initiative. We appreciate your support!

-Brandon

[siscokid]

I just pledged a measly 25.00 bucks a month for now!! I actually feel pretty good lol...

[1BigPea]

Originally Posted by siscokid

I just pledged a measly 25.00 bucks a month for now!! I actually feel pretty good lol...

Nice! It all adds up.

[Motorola]

Sorry to revive this thread without any new info, but I can't believe that a GC statement based solely on being a private pilot, and visiting remote airfields, was sufficient for issue in OC.

I have specific circumstances unrelated to my being a private pilot, and am just trying to decide which road to take...maybe articulate both in my GC?

Just trying to get a plan together before I start drafting my GC.

Great site, great info, and glad to donate to the cause.

[1BigPea]

Originally Posted by Motorola

Sorry to revive this thread without any new info, but I can't believe that a GC statement based solely on being a private pilot, and visiting remote airfields, was sufficient for issue in OC.

I have specific circumstances unrelated to my being a private pilot, and am just trying to decide which road to take...maybe articulate both in my GC?

Just trying to get a plan together before I start drafting my GC.

Great site, great info, and glad to donate to the cause.

Welcome aboard!

[steadyrock]

Originally Posted by Motorola

Sorry to revive this thread without any new info, but I can't believe that a GC statement based solely on being a private pilot, and visiting remote airfields, was sufficient for issue in OC.

I have specific circumstances unrelated to my being a private pilot, and am just trying to decide which road to take...maybe articulate both in my GC?

Just trying to get a plan together before I start drafting my GC.

Great site, great info, and glad to donate to the cause.

FWIW, somebody can feel free to correct but the licenses approved by OCSD in the last few years that have to do with a work-related GC are typically restricted to be "valid during the scope and course of work only" (or similar language). If you can articulate a GC that relates to your non-work life, it should increase your chances of getting an unrestricted license. YMMV, and good luck.

[BumBum]

How long has it been taking people to get a determination on GC? I submitted an application this past summer, and I still haven't received a yes or no. I check in periodically with the department, and I keep getting responses that they are undergoing staffing changes and what not.

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by BumBum

How long has it been taking people to get a determination on GC? I submitted an application this past summer, and I still haven't received a yes or no. I check in periodically with the department, and I keep getting responses that they are undergoing staffing changes and what not.

Here's what the applicable PC section says about the application time frame:

26205. The licensing authority shall give written notice to the
applicant indicating if the license under this article is approved or
denied. The licensing authority shall give this notice within 90
days of the initial application for a new license or a license
renewal, or 30 days after receipt of the applicant's criminal
background check from the Department of Justice, whichever is later.
If the license is denied, the notice shall state which requirement
was not satisfied.

As you can see, they're way over due in giving you an answer. You can call them and gently tell them so, which probably will p*ss them off and get you denied, or you can continue to wait.

[FoxTrot87]

It looks like the Bradys and Friends have joined the party... They seem to present their argument the Gura way though from a more theological viewpoint.

I haven't followed too many cases but it sounds like we just want to take this to a higher power. I can't read the Judge's context but they seemed less than concerned.

Edit: Would be nice to call them out for using the term "gun violence" while ignoring the other aspects of crime.

[M. D. Van Norman]

I’m guessing they subscribe to the juvenile notion that the “manly” way to settle conflicts is with fistfights wherein, magically, no one is ever crippled or killed.

[Anchors]

Originally Posted by M. D. Van Norman

I’m guessing they subscribe to the juvenile notion that the “manly” way to settle conflicts is with fistfights wherein, magically, no one is ever crippled or killed.

I've heard that from many anti-gun people.

I like to point out that according to the FBI in 2010, twice as many people were beaten to death than shot with rifles of any kind (including AR-15s, AK47s, etc), so the idea that you can just "slug it out" and everything will end well is ridiculous.


Two situations:
1. You are in danger of losing your life and you have only one option.
2. You aren't in danger and you can diffuse the situation or simply walk away.

People who don't own guns usually don't understand this until they own guns.

[luckystrike]

she step down yet??

[Brianguy]

Anything going on in OC?

[steadyrock]

Originally Posted by Brianguy

Anything going on in OC?

The case is proceeding. You can keep up with legal updates from Michel's office here.

[El Toro]

Links to Good Cause Statements are DEAD.

http://calgunsfoundation.org/resourc...s-batch-1.html

[ripcurlksm]

Originally Posted by El Toro

Links to Good Cause Statements are DEAD.

http://calgunsfoundation.org/resourc...s-batch-1.html

Not sure if its related but there was some criticism from someone at calccw forums for posting GC statements?

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by ripcurlksm

Not sure if its related but there was some criticism from someone at calccw forums for posting GC statements?

There has always been criticism at Calccw....

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by HowardW56

There has always been criticism at Calccw....

They (that other website) are irrelevant and have been for a long time. CalGuns is the power player in the CCW arena.

[steadyrock]

Originally Posted by ripcurlksm

Not sure if its related but there was some criticism from someone at calccw forums for posting GC statements?

Because Greg Block (CCWInstructor, GunSlut, et al.) makes his living reviewing people's private good cause statements and then consulting them on how to navigate the shrouded mystery of CCW issuance within the OCSD. He doesn't understand the law (even though he is a part-time volunteer pretend cop working the mean beat in Villa Park) and he is afraid of light chasing away the shadows that put food on his table. It is PRIMARILY the fault of Greg and his friends at CalCCW that we are in the situation we are in, since their strawman phony candidate Craig Hunter pulled *just* enough support away from Carona nemesis Bill Hunt, to hand the victory to Sandra Hutchens. Bill was a strong supporter of CCW rights and would have had a policy as close to "Shall Issue" as we could have had under current law. But that would have hurt Block's business and so he started a movement to draft an anti-Hunt candidate instead. Beside that, there was an ax to grind from old business within the Carona administration relating to Hunt, and some of CalCCW's roots run deep within OCSD.

Like Doheny said, CalCCW are irrelevant now. Their biggest opportunity was four years ago during Hutchens' first confirmation, and instead of taking it seriously they showed up at Board of Supervisor meetings with big fake Groucho Marx glasses and phony bow ties and buttons festooning their lapels and generally made clowns of themselves (and gun owners by proxy) when they had an important audience. And that's not the only time...

Ignore them.

[1BigPea]

^^^
Well said. Bill Hunt should be our Sheriff right now, but because of Hunter it ruined his chance.

[rritchie]

Hello, The links at the top for an approval/ disapproval said "page not found" anyone else have any links to information like that?

[M. D. Van Norman]

Originally Posted by wildhawker

You'll notice the entirely new website that went up in late March. The downside was that we lost some of the old content. Restoring some of the more complex content, like the Initiative, is an ongoing process. I will note, however, that we're running a full new statewide audit of policies, etc. so the information that goes up at the new site will be current.

-Brandon

P.S. We'll also be scoring each county objectively. We're going to show people how friendly their county sheriff really is (or isn't).

Per Brandon Combs.

[Anchors]

:[

Sigh.

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by steadyrock

It is PRIMARILY the fault of Greg and his friends at CalCCW that we are in the situation we are in, since their strawman phony candidate Craig Hunter pulled *just* enough support away from Carona nemesis Bill Hunt, to hand the victory to Sandra Hutchens. Bill was a strong supporter of CCW rights and would have had a policy as close to "Shall Issue" as we could have had under current law. But that would have hurt Block's business and so he started a movement to draft an anti-Hunt candidate instead. Beside that, there was an ax to grind from old business within the Carona administration relating to Hunt, and some of CalCCW's roots run deep within OCSD

No doubt Bill would have liked to been sheriff and it would have been good for us, but he did ok:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazin...nty_sherif.php

[VegasNick702]

Originally Posted by 1BigPea

^^^
Well said. Bill Hunt should be our Sheriff right now, but because of Hunter it ruined his chance.

Nobody hurt Hunt's chance other than Hunt when he decided to play for the dark side assisting defense attorneys who represented scumbag rapists and gang bangers. Hunt lost a lot of support in the LE community when his work as a PI and who he worked for was brought to light.

[Doheny]

/\ can't fault him for his PI work, he had to make a living after being demoted and leaving the S.O. He got his rank and $ back and Corona is in jail. Kudos to hunt.

[FilmGuy]

Oh please... Give it a rest Vegas. Enough with the us vs them law enforcement mentality. Perhaps if the unions had not acted like a bunch of emotional and ignorant children they could see the bigger picture. Everyone deserves a fair trial even scumbag gang bangers and cops accused of a crime. If the police & DA aren't confident in their investigation and willing to make sure all evidence is presented, well that is the bigger issue.

If the unions had spoken with Bill and learned that a lot of the times he is brought in and ends up telling the Defense that his investigation confirms what the Police have found, maybe the unions would not have taken their ball and gone home. Of course what you fail to mention is that the case the union and KCBS made such a big deal about fell apart post election and the kid walked.

[scoobyj]

I am working on my good cause statement. I should have copies the good cause statements when they were online months ago. Does anyone have copies of the accepted Orange County GC Statements?

[HowardW56]

Originally Posted by scoobyj

I am working on my good cause statement. I should have copies the good cause statements when they were online months ago. Does anyone have copies of the accepted Orange County GC Statements?

YEP

[Ivan Dan]

Originally Posted by HowardW56

YEP

Care to share them? PM or email would be great!