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Old 07-18-2013, 6:45 PM
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Default Chinese T53 stock refinishing

So picked up my T53 on Tues. My LGS had 5 T53's in the morning I put it in jail. Only one that was a blonde stock. Owner let me grab the only cleaning rod off another T53 and swapped the bolt as well since another had a tighter bolt (bolt didn't match anyway). Receiver, floorplate, and buttplate match

This stock was in decent shape, but needed some TLC as it was very rough. I wonder if they got the SKS treatment and dunked in boiling water to get the cosmo off as the grain was raised (to my untrained eye)

Finish I was thinking of a light stain then thought about just a sealant. Will prob use a few coats of Minwax. Would be nice if there was a stain that would make the wood look more blonde

Anyway, onto the pics! Before is first, after is 2nd

Used this sandpaper from Home Depot (cheaper than the other brand). Was going to go with some finer stuff like 350 and 500/ 600, but this combo worked out great for what I had to do






Only "major" damage in the lower left corner. The other side doesn't have the curved cutout, so not sure if it's original just splintered, or if it actually is damage




Best example of what the majority of the stock looked like







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Old 07-18-2013, 6:46 PM
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Wow, this photo didn't turn out at all, lol















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Not sure what markings these mean




Overall, I'm happy with the result so far





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Looks like you're making good progress. You really have your work cut out for you on this restore project.
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Good start. I would try and steam out as many dents as possible.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:23 PM
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How do you steam them? Iron on the steam setting? Lol

I really didn't plan on doing that
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How do you steam them? Iron on the steam setting? Lol

I really didn't plan on doing that
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_Z_h76Sd1w

Looking good so far, keep us updated!
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Old 07-19-2013, 6:32 AM
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I've got a T53 in the garage that my brother-in-law steamed the dents out of, sanded, and now is applying a red shellac using French polishing. It's turning out great.

The steaming is easy, just lay a wet towel between the wood and the iron.
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I might do that. Now, it shouldn't take the finish off, should it? That guy used stripper then steamed, but I'd just steam it
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Since you swapped the bolt, you may want to invest in a field gauge to check headspace. Or, maybe you like to live on the edge? Just keep your face away from it when you pull the trigger the first time!

Good luck with the refinishing!
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Well, I got it right when I reassembled my Mosin bolt; the firing pin length, I mean. Unless that's diff
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Steaming isn't going to take off the finish will it?
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Steaming might damage the finish depending on the finish. Best to start with a spot you don't mind redoing it. To be honest it's better do it up front.
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i would put some shellac on it to protect it and call it good. my Romanian M-44 was pretty dinged up when i took it home. i did sand it some but i did not try to make it real nice. you will ruin the stock trying to make it real nice. it is what it is. i would like it with just a protective finish on it. buy another stock if you want to look real nice. just my 2c. enjoy the carbine
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True. It has some darkening of the wood that I like the look of and would hate to ruin that. I may just re sand the rougher spots then a few coats of the Minwax
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Well, I got it right when I reassembled my Mosin bolt; the firing pin length, I mean. Unless that's diff
Headspacing is different then firing pin protrusion, and why swapping bolts can result in either a failure to chamber, or more...explosive consequences if the headspace is bad. You might want to either buy a 7.62x54r headspace gauge or go see a smith and have them do it.
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Steaming isn't going to take off the finish will it?
I steamed some spots, and it did remove my finish. Ended up completely stripping it down, I just could not remove various dark black spots that were all over rifle. Was able to mask most of the spots with a dark stain.
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I just wanted to clean mine up, but not remove the "battle scars" or try to make it look like new. No sanding.

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Headspacing is different then firing pin protrusion, and why swapping bolts can result in either a failure to chamber, or more...explosive consequences if the headspace is bad. You might want to either buy a 7.62x54r headspace gauge or go see a smith and have them do it.
I'll have my LGS check it. I'd think since the bolt is tight, it'd be good
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You can check headspace with a piece of solder and a micrometer.
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Huhh funny I just started doing two of those yesterday. The boiling did well raising the dings and removing shelllac .The ***** part was the smell and cleaning the sst pot after. One stock was dark and heavy like walnut the other is splintery and light like pine or something. The harder wood came out nice no scrathes or dings. Now lots of sanding and I'll put a half linseed oil half terpentine mix of about three coats.
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True. It has some darkening of the wood that I like the look of and would hate to ruin that. I may just re sand the rougher spots then a few coats of the Minwax
Where's some more pics man? Inspire my lazy *****. I need to do something with mine. It has gouges in it.
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I just gave it another resanding. No new pics
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You can check headspace with a piece of solder and a micrometer.
What's the thickness ?
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What's the thickness ?
<0.008" is fine. The force required to operate the bolt is not to be taken as indicative of headspace.
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<0.008" is fine. The force required to operate the bolt is not to be taken as indicative of headspace.
You mean the depth of the bolt face plus less than .008 ? So that would be like a washer of .071-.074 ?
I see what you meant by the .008
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.074 is getting a bit close to Field (absolute max safe to fire), but yeah.

.065 go gage
.071 no-go gage
.076 field gage
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.074 is getting a bit close to Field (absolute max safe to fire), but yeah.

.065 go gage
.071 no-go gage
.076 field gage
Thanks for the info...perhaps I'll turn some cheap washers harden then grind to thickness
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[QUOTE=Zedrek;11880768]Where's some more pics man? Inspire my lazy *****. I need to do something with mine. It has gouges in it.
Try some wood filler
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Having trouble getting the MinWax to shine up. I've done 3 coats, I've tried to buff it with a soft cloth and tried buffing with a cloth soaked in hot water. Both didn't work. Suggestions?
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