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I'd like to place my order but want the price of engraving included and know the cost.

How is that coming along?

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I'd like to place my order but want the price of engraving included and know the cost.

How is that coming along?

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For now send all engraving requests to: loran@polymer80.com and I can give a quote.
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I copied and pasted this from my previous post with link. Hope this helps.


Looking more closely at 27 CFR 478.92 you need to place your name, caliber, serial number and manufacturing location on any firearm you wish to be able to sell. A model designation appears optional.

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Looking more closely at 27 CFR 478.92 you need to place your name, caliber, serial number and manufacturing location on any firearm you wish to be able to sell. A model designation appears optional.

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Note the "wish to be able to sell". I believe only a Serial number is required unless you are selling it?

On my 80's I used a Dremel engraver to put a SN inside the magwell towards the top.
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Note the "wish to be able to sell". I believe only a Serial number is required unless you are selling it?

On my 80's I used a Dremel engraver to put a SN inside the magwell towards the top.
Maybe I am misreading your post, but no serial is "required" unless transferring comes up.
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Maybe I am misreading your post, but no serial is "required" unless transferring comes up.
sure hope this is the case otherwise it seems to Defeat this who deal.


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Maybe I am misreading your post, but no serial is "required" unless transferring comes up.
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nothing need to engraved for personal use

if selling
engraving has to be to BATF DEPTH SPECS too
PRETTY SURE laser is not going to cut it,not deep enough
not 100% sure on that,but the BATF specs are pretty clear
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Note the "wish to be able to sell". I believe only a Serial number is required unless you are selling it?

On my 80's I used a Dremel engraver to put a SN inside the magwell towards the top.
From the information I read (see previous post with link) you need the following to sell only (see below). I'm not a lawyer, so please read the information in the thread and come to your own conclusions.

I am going to have the following engraved to prevent this from happening (see link)
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=783347

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Here is the thread regarding what info is needed to sell.
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I had this discussion with CNCMILLGUY while running his mill. He has signs posted with an excerpt from DOJ or BATF or some alphabet group that says it must have an SN to be legally possessed, nothing more. You can generate your own SN and keep a record of it. I used the date and then a -1 for the first and -2 for the second.You do not have to report making the gun to anyone as long as it stays yours.

Thats how it was explained to me. Note, this is about possession not selling.
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I had this discussion with CNCMILLGUY while running his mill. He has signs posted with an excerpt from DOJ or BATF or some alphabet group that says it must have an SN to be legally possessed, nothing more. You can generate your own SN and keep a record of it. I used the date and then a -1 for the first and -2 for the second.You do not have to report making the gun to anyone as long as it stays yours.

Thats how it was explained to me. Note, this is about possession not selling.
no s/n is required by LAW
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Okay boys and girls... Straight from BATFE Firearms Technology Branch, Agent Max Kingery, in a phone call I made on 12/30/08 at 1645hrs, (304)260-1699...

According to ATFE FTB, an AR pistol may be made from a receiver you make yourself, (IE block of aluminum, or 80%) as long as you use the round pistol buffer tube, NOT the CAR stock tube. It does NOT have to be serialized and is not taxed or required to be registered in ANY way Federally just like a handgun or rifle you make yourself. Also, you can turn that receiver into a rifle at any point, but if you do, you cannot then turn it back into a pistol. They recommend you place some sort of serial number on it, in case it is stolen, but that is NOT a requirement. There is no requirement you mark it in any way, IE "pistol" or anything else.

Pays to ask, if you don't know. Hope this helps clear up and "gray" areas concerning making a AR pistol from an 80% or block of aluminum. If anyone has any further questions, they can call Agent Kingery at the number above for clairification.
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Old 07-17-2013, 5:45 AM
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Any updates on the Molds being done on time, Testing, Ship dates still on track? Thanks
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Any updates on the Molds being done on time, Testing, Ship dates still on track? Thanks
So I am flying out to the mold maker on Sunday. The molds are done as of yesterday. They are running test batches now. When I get there I am going to check out the test batches, and beat the ever loving crap out of them the test our polymer and then do a final fit and finish.

Upon my approval, we will be shipping the mold overnight air to our manufacturer.

We will be running TIGHT but our deadline still stands.

Barring any BS from customs this really should be no problem to meet.
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Okay boys and girls... Straight from BATFE Firearms Technology Branch, Agent Max Kingery, in a phone call I made on 12/30/08 at 1645hrs, (304)260-1699...

According to ATFE FTB, an AR pistol may be made from a receiver you make yourself, (IE block of aluminum, or 80%) as long as you use the round pistol buffer tube, NOT the CAR stock tube. It does NOT have to be serialized and is not taxed or required to be registered in ANY way Federally just like a handgun or rifle you make yourself. Also, you can turn that receiver into a rifle at any point, but if you do, you cannot then turn it back into a pistol. They recommend you place some sort of serial number on it, in case it is stolen, but that is NOT a requirement. There is no requirement you mark it in any way, IE "pistol" or anything else.

Pays to ask, if you don't know. Hope this helps clear up and "gray" areas concerning making a AR pistol from an 80% or block of aluminum. If anyone has any further questions, they can call Agent Kingery at the number above for clairification.
Thanks for the clarification. That is what I thought until my discussion with CNCMILLGUY. Nothing unless selling or transfering althought a SN would be helpful if it was stolen which you should report. This thing needs to be a sticky on either this forum or probably the best would be the centerfire rifle section.

To be sure, is there nothing in our California laws that would be different from the Feds BATFE?
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Thanks for the clarification. That is what I thought until my discussion with CNCMILLGUY. Nothing unless selling or transfering althought a SN would be helpful if it was stolen which you should report. This thing needs to be a sticky on either this forum or probably the best would be the centerfire rifle section.

To be sure, is there nothing in our California laws that would be different from the Feds BATFE?
not on the S/N thing
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Thanks for the clarification. That is what I thought until my discussion with CNCMILLGUY. Nothing unless selling or transfering althought a SN would be helpful if it was stolen which you should report. This thing needs to be a sticky on either this forum or probably the best would be the centerfire rifle section.

To be sure, is there nothing in our California laws that would be different from the Feds BATFE?
There really are no state laws regarding home-builds. So the only law is the federal law. And the federal law states that no S/N is required at all. But you must comply with all state and local laws regarding the configuration of the gun.

So in short... No S/N is required.
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I am going to pick one up from Sears. Inexpensive, hope it's not cheap. Under $200.
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I am going to pick one up from Sears. Inexpensive, hope it's not cheap. Under $200.
You might also want to consider looking at Harbor Freight as well. Everyone's low price drill press is made in China anyway. HF has easy to find 20% off coupons all the time.
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So I am flying out to the mold maker on Sunday. The molds are done as of yesterday. They are running test batches now. When I get there I am going to check out the test batches, and beat the ever loving crap out of them the test our polymer and then do a final fit and finish.

Upon my approval, we will be shipping the mold overnight air to our manufacturer.

We will be running TIGHT but our deadline still stands.

Barring any BS from customs this really should be no problem to meet.
Sounds Great..... Thank you Sir!
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You might also want to consider looking at Harbor Freight as well. Everyone's low price drill press is made in China anyway. HF has easy to find 20% off coupons all the time.
I agree! HF is the way to go for affordable power tools that are not total junk.

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I just now ordered. There was no option for engraving so I put it the notes section of the order and sent you a pm.

Thanks and good luck.

Looking forward to seeing the video and putting this together. I'm hoping this will be the Glock of ar lowers!
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So, how do the molds look Loran? I'm assuming the manufacturer is in Shenzhen aka "factory city" yeah? T-4 days!
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I agree with HF. I got almost all of my tools from HF, they work fine.
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So dremel? Drill press? Which is it??? I want to see this done using a DREMEL, as that is the major reason why I bought one was because it was mentioned that you can finish it with a simple dremel.
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Just because you CAN finish a lower with a dremmel does not mean you should, or that in the end you will be happy with it.

Dood, you are going to shoot BOOLETS with this thing. This isn't elmer's glue and Popsicle sticks time.
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Kommanderkong, second post , Huh? You accuse the Cal Gunners who have posted anything positive of being related to or being friends with Polymer80.com owners? What a bunch of BS!!!

Yes, they have had a 1 month delay which I'm not happy about but it has been explained and the explanation makes sense. I am one of the first to have placed an order and yes, I do remember statements about being able to complete it with a hand drill and a Dremel. I have also followed the thread on the commercial forum where the polymer lower competitor claims that their's can be completed with a Buck Knife and Dremel. While claims by both companies may be true, I wouldn't do either. I doubt either vendor will claim that best results would be obtained with either method.

As a working engineer with more than 30 years of experience, the jig method that Polymer80 will employ has much more appeal to me for its ability to yield more precise results over the method incorporated by the other vendor.

Polymer80 and Loran have been up front as to where they are located, they already had an established business, and have invited Cal Gunners to stop by. I have not yet had the pleasure to meet or speak with them, but I look forward to it in the future.

I would hope that you have no tie to the competitor that you reference. I don't recall seeing any thread crapping on their posts from Polymer80 fans that would warrant retaliation; if that is what this is. If you do have ties to the competitor than I find this very unprofessional and it probably means that your business is already heading down the toilet. I don't name them in hopes that you are a lone troll lurking out from under your bridge on your own and that they have nothing to do with you.
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Anyone know what the difference is between Rockethub and all these 80% vendors? I mean, you give money months before anything is even available, which one is more legit?
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Just because you CAN finish a lower with a dremmel does not mean you should, or that in the end you will be happy with it.

Dood, you are going to shoot BOOLETS with this thing. This isn't elmer's glue and Popsicle sticks time.

Then it should've been stated that "you CAN finish it with a dremel but isn't recommended, I probably would've just stuck with another 80% aluminum. It's cool, I look forward to another project again. Just want to see videos of it finished with both a press and dremel.
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I agree! HF is the way to go for affordable power tools that are not total junk.

Thanks!
Can I arrange just to come pick my lower & jig up? I'm a pre-order customer and don't live that far away...
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Anyone know what the difference is between Rockethub and all these 80% vendors? I mean, you give money months before anything is even available, which one is more legit?
Rockethub is a hope and a prayer......... most vendors have actual items or enough credibility they will come thru.
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Quick question, can I use a commercial stock/buffer tube with this lower?
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Quick question, can I use a commercial stock/buffer tube with this lower?
I'm sure u can. If not,it will seem they would sale comm. stocks for us.
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