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Old 07-08-2013, 5:37 PM
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Old 07-08-2013, 5:40 PM
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Sold my snub .357 for a G29 couldn't be happier all around.
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barely more than a 380??????
Did you look at the link? Yes, it's barely more than a good .380 when you only have a 2" barrel .357.

A 2" .357 will push a 125 grain bullet at the same speed a 3" .380 will push a 95 grain bullet.

My pocket .380 sends a 90 grain bullet faster than my 2" .357 sends a 125 grain bullet.

A subcompact .40 S&W has considerably more power than any 2" .357 magnum, pushing a 180 grain bullet at the same speed that a 2" .357 pushes a 125 grain.

So, do your research.
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Old 07-10-2013, 8:09 AM
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Like others have said not enough info about user, use, physical size, firearms ability/ experience. That being said I just have to voice my bias .....Can't hardly beat a snub for everyday carry, I've shot Smiths utlra light .357 with defensive loads and it is truly not for most people - recoil is very impressive (fast follow up shots difficult). Often smallness means the ability to carry or not at all, a glock is fat and not always easy to conceal. I prefer a plus P load in a quality snub. Does take some practice and has only 5 rounds to get job. done. A good quality laser sight really helps with snub, I was personally amazed how well it works and I really thought iron sights were adequate. Did I mention easy to conceal?

I like Glocks but good training and practice is critical.... keep that bugger hook off bang bang lever! More rounds is real nice and ability to reload fast is great. That being said likelihood of shootout with multi targets is low (for me anyway). Most often carried by me is Smith 642 80%, Sig 220, Glock 19 in that order.
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Old 07-10-2013, 9:44 AM
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Did you look at the link? Yes, it's barely more than a good .380 when you only have a 2" barrel .357.

A 2" .357 will push a 125 grain bullet at the same speed a 3" .380 will push a 95 grain bullet.

My pocket .380 sends a 90 grain bullet faster than my 2" .357 sends a 125 grain bullet.

A subcompact .40 S&W has considerably more power than any 2" .357 magnum, pushing a 180 grain bullet at the same speed that a 2" .357 pushes a 125 grain.

So, do your research.
Very interesting charts and thanks for posting that.
When comparing apples to apples one must do just that. I would imagine a 125gr bullet would penetrate better than a 95gr at the same velocity.
It gets even better. Maybe a JHP 357 would not even open up like a 380 due to jacket thickness. There are so many variables your brain would explode thinking of all of them. Especially when you find out "I didn't think of that".

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16m0jVAhBZ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1gXC9Hyw5w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OtZrZX6WJc
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Tell your friend to take a look at the S&W M&P 360, it's light weight (1/2 lb) which means less recoil which is way better for plinking.
I think you might have this one backwards... I have a M&P 340 and good luck "plinking" a box of .357 loads.

For the OP. If its his first gun I'd vote for the g23. He will shoot it a lot more and develop his shooting skills faster. Otherwise both are good options but serve different purposes.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:24 PM
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I agree both is the correct answer!

I have a S&W 642 that can be concealed extremely well when wearing light weight clothing. Glock 19 conceals OK but it's noticably bulkier when the 642 is almost forgettable.

Now if only I could get a concealed carry permit to put this to practice and see what the day to day realities of carrying both these firearms is.
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I'd get a G23 with a 9mm conversion barrel.
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How has no one posted the Yeager video about this yet?
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Old 07-10-2013, 9:51 PM
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MY friend is trying to decide on which to get? What would you get? I'd get a glock 23 but what would you all prefer?
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Old 07-10-2013, 10:21 PM
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I would probably go for a glock 19 loaded wit hp.. Quicker follow up shots. That's just me tho.
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Old 07-11-2013, 5:29 AM
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He's a bigger guy but I don't think he's shot a 357 before. I told him to get the glock 23 because. 1 round count 2. easier follow up shots 3. not going to have as bad recoil as 357 hot loads. I think he's decided to go for the 23.

I didn't personally tell him to get the glock 23 he wanted my opinion on both.He's already got a few 9mm's, he wanted something different.
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Old 07-11-2013, 5:31 AM
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The Glock is only as reliable as the magazine is.
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Old 07-11-2013, 5:56 AM
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The G23 would be way easier to shoot. 357 snubnoses are for advanced shooters. They're not very easy or fun to shoot.
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Old 07-11-2013, 12:24 PM
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The Glock is only as reliable as the magazine is.
Shoot, Glock magazines are great! Buy Glock made magazines and you're good. I mean, Glock makes the gun and makes (or contracts to their specs) the magazines. Unlike 1911's which have hundreds of different makes of parts and magazines.


Anyone who is going to rely on a gun for SD/HD should do the due diligence of shooting hundreds of rounds out of the gun/magazine combo to ensure reliability.
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