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Old 05-19-2013, 4:18 PM
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So my dad had these and gave them to me. I don't know much about them but think the black tipped ones are AP and will fit a 30-06? I noticed a couple which had almost a gold tip. Any idea what these are? Any idea on fair market value, I don't have anything that would shoot these. Thanks for the help!







These are in the box and it looks like they may have been hot glued closed many years ago. Any idea what they could be worth? Thanks!




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Old 05-19-2013, 4:27 PM
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The red tip is tracer and illegal in California. The black tip are armor-piercing and few ranges let you shoot them. I didn't see the "bronze tip" but they might just be FMJ. There was an "improved Military" round that had a bronze tip but I am not an expert on that.
All appear to be of the vintage making them corrosive.(pre-1953 or so.)
Still shootable, but not as desirable.
Other than the tracers, they should sell to some '06 shooter. 20 to 30 a round perhaps. You might check some WWII Reenactors sites if the boxes are pristine: saw a post on another site that they will sell for $50-60 a box to a collector.
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If you own a decent rifle that you care about don't shoot that crap.

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Not sure what it's worth, but that is 30 cal m2 ball ammo for an m1 Garand, It is 30-06 ammo. The red tip typically indicates an incendiary or tracer round and the black is armor piercing. The clip in the lower right corner is an en bloc clip that reloads the m1 Garand. The clips holding the 5 rounds is just a stripper clip. (maybe used to load a Springfield 1903 bolt rifle.)

I'm not sure what the last 2 pictures are. Can't make out all the letters on the box,

A good place to repost this to get the attention it deserves is in the curio/ relic forums. You'll get more informed attention there.

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Thanks for the help guys, at least I have a place to start now
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Surplus GI ammo isn't "crap." You can shoot it in a Garand or Springfield just fine. Worst thing that will happen is a 'click' instead of a "bang," but that doesn't happen often.
Corrosive ammo demands greater cleaning -- most recommend hot soapy water -- but once you clean it, the rifle will be fine. I have M2 that hasn't seen daylight since Hitler was making speeches and it will shoot just fine.
If you have any you don't want, I'll cheerfully take it all.
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Its worth more than 30 cents a round.
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Its worth more than 30 cents a round.
Probably, but I am tainted by age: I used to buy it from the DCM for 5 a round.
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Umm, yeah. The gun show I went to last December had a number of vendors offering corrosive U.S. AP for $25 a clip. It's not worth that much, but it's still worth decent money.

St Louis made plenty of non-corrosive ammo. Check the lot numbers, if any, on the boxes. There is info on the web regarding corrosive vs non-corrosive lots. Check the headstamps - usually AP didn't "get" non-corrosive until sometime in '53, a year later than ball.

Regarding it being "junk" and ruining good guns, LOL, yes, all the WWII Garands have turned to dust.

Last box is FN ammo, "Cal .30" so it might be '06 also, but there were a lot of approx .30 caliber rifles made back then.
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por fusil = for rifle

sur chargeurs = on chargers (stipper clips)

In French.

F.N may = FN Herstal, a Belgian company, Official languages of Belgium are Dutch, French, and German. I don't recognize the logo so I'm not sure about this.
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Awesome, thank you calgunners!
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If you are interested in selling shoot me a PM, id love to buy some of it to add to my collection.
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Probably, but I am tainted by age: I used to buy it from the DCM for 5 a round.
cmp sells greek standard m2 ball for 54 cents shipped.
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Umm, yeah. The gun show I went to last December had a number of vendors offering corrosive U.S. AP for $25 a clip. It's not worth that much, but it's still worth decent money.

St Louis made plenty of non-corrosive ammo. Check the lot numbers, if any, on the boxes. There is info on the web regarding corrosive vs non-corrosive lots. Check the headstamps - usually AP didn't "get" non-corrosive until sometime in '53, a year later than ball.

Regarding it being "junk" and ruining good guns, LOL, yes, all the WWII Garands have turned to dust.

Last box is FN ammo, "Cal .30" so it might be '06 also, but there were a lot of approx .30 caliber rifles made back then.
its worth about 1.50 a round.
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Thanks metalliman. i actually just listed a bunch for $1.20 a round since I really don't need it. We'll see, figure let the market determine what it's worth.
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Thanks metalliman. i actually just listed a bunch for $1.20 a round since I really don't need it. We'll see, figure let the market determine what it's worth.
good luck! back in 2010 I bought 392 rounds for $400.
foolishly, I shot about 150 rounds of it. good think 192 rounds is still sealed in the spam can!
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