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Old 05-10-2013, 4:58 PM
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Default Do you "index" a revolver cylinder after you close it?

When I picked up my 686 and did the safety demo, I put the dummy into the cylinder, then closed the cylinder and then rotated it until it clicked. The gun store guys asked me "Why did you do that?" ... I dunno really, I just ASSUMED you were supposed to. But I guess you don't, because the cylinder will aways line up as you pull the trigger (or cock the hammer).

I didn't know this until that other thread asked about the "turn ring" on his brand new S&W. I searched for the term and someone says one way to get that ring (in the modern days of mass manufacturing and non-caring S&W factory workers) is when you close the cylinder and index it ... which you don't have to do.

I guess it is just a OCD thing or something, but confirm for me that it's a useless action on my part to do this!
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Old 05-10-2013, 5:18 PM
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I also index my revolvers, and they all have turn rings. And I don't mind.
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Old 05-10-2013, 5:31 PM
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I do it. Why have the cylinder flopping around? Plus, some holsters are molded to take into account the groves in the cylinder, so it would be better to have them lined up.
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If useless = some other action will do it anyways (cocking the hammer or pulling the trigger), then yes, it is useless.

But if lining up the ammo/cylinder makes you feel good, then that means something, which means it is NOT useless.

FWIW, I do it. I don't care about turn rings. I just want to enjoy the range experience. And indexing is part of that experience.
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I do it too.
Don't see anything wrong with doing it.
Can't hurt the revolver.
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Old 05-10-2013, 6:04 PM
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I have a GP100 in jail now and decided to go shoot a rental at my local range today. I too indexed it after reloading.
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Who doesnt? just seems wrong not to....
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Yep, I do it. For some reason I just feel compelled to. Feels right!
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Haha. I also do it. Since when have gun shop employees been right?
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I do it out of habit..
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If you close a Colt cylinder with the chamber lined up to the barrel, it will not develop a turn ring...so on my classic Colt, I tend to do it.
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I don't and it doesn't bother me that the cylinder might spin a bit.
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Yup, I always index the cylinder.
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I always do it because I like the click sound.
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Never do it. Never saw the need. Does'nt harm the gun or hamper it's operation.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:54 AM
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I searched for the term and someone says one way to get that ring (in the modern days of mass manufacturing and non-caring S&W factory workers) is when you close the cylinder and index it ... which you don't have to do.
Every double action hand ejector made by S&W since the late 1800's when they were introduced will have a turn ring, if it has ever had the cylinder rotated. It is inherent in the design that the cylinder stop drags on the cylinder while it rotates.
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I don't remember if I do or not. I'm going to go play with it now. Umm, my revolver that is.
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Old 05-11-2013, 11:34 AM
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Indexing does not do enough to leave a ring by itself, simply cycling the firearm whether by SA or DA will make the ring. Indexing MAY contribute, but it would be very minimal.
If you're not indexing because of leaving a ring, not indexing ain't the way to do it.
You can lightly stone the lead edge to take some of the sharp edge off, but it will still get a ring eventually.
As stated by schneiderguy, it's inherent in the build.
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Always. If your revolver doesn't have a ring you should probably learn to shoot it sometime.
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I always do it because I like the click sound.
The click is one of the coolest sounds on earth, along with the rack, the cock, the slam and the bang. I love the sounds of the gun. Why does that sound so dirty?
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i always do when i handle a revolver never knew if i needed to or not.. just felt like i should lol
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I have always done that. Just feels like the right thing to do.
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Haha. I also do it. Since when have gun shop employees been right?
After reading the OP this was my initial thought. Gun store employees are some of the biggest idiots alive when it comes to actual working knowledge of firearms.

FWIW I have always done this. I have to with my 637 since my Galco King Tuk is molded to the fluting in the cylinder, and I wouldn't be able to holster my weapon if the cylinder wasn't indexed. Also do it on my GP100 which I never carry in a holster...just feels like you are missing out on part of the "revolver experience" if you don't index it.
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I do it too. Turn rings? My revolvers have been shot enough to have those (and worse), so that's not a concern.
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Always do too.
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I always index my Redhawk simply because my hand is already there.
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If you would be reloading under fire, don't bother with indexing the cylinder.

That said, when I'm cleaning, handling or target shooting my guns, I always give the cylinder a slight turn, if needed, to lock the bolt into place before holstering or storing. Just habit with me.
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Always. I love shooting revolvers and its part of the experience.

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Same just second nature to do so
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I usually line up a stop notch in the general area of the stop bolt while closing the cylinder. And yes, I make sure it's indexed.

Why? Dunno...
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LOL! OK, glad I'm not the only one who does it just because it feels like the thing to do!
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LOL! OK, glad I'm not the only one who does it just because it feels like the thing to do!
I did read something somewhere that the turn ring can be avoided (provided the revolver is never fired) by careful closing of the cylinder while it is properly aligned. I suppose maybe but I don't own anything pristine enough to worry about it.
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I have always done it,just fees right
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First time I had ever been around a revolver I did after doing a safety check just felt natural
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I guess I'm the odd one of the bunch. I close the cylinder and immediately cock the hammer and then release the hammer down slowly. I was told many years ago by a collector that I respect that it would prevent the dreaded turn ring. I don't know if it is true or not but I shoot the heck out of my wheel guns and none of them have a bad ring
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I've done this ever since I started shooting some 40 years ago. For me, I guess it's a mantra of owning a revolver. I personally don't feel it's right or wrong. Hell, I tend to even spin it close so I can hear the clicks until it stops - my guns only of course. I respect other peoples handguns and will click the cylinder into position.

I have no need to worry about the ring; it's part of owning a revolver.
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Not to threadjack you, but does anyone have a good reason not to?
I recently purchased my first revolver and was also wondering this when practicing reloads.
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Always have since I was a kid. I close it with my weak hand thumb and kind of thumb roll the cylinder until it locks in place.


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