Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > SPECIALTY FORUMS > Calgunners in Service
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Calgunners in Service This forum is a place for our active duty and deployed members to share, request and have a bit of home where ever they are.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-13-2013, 5:19 PM
WokMaster1's Avatar
WokMaster1 WokMaster1 is offline
Part time Emperor
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,441
iTrader: 17 / 100%
Default Thank A Vet claims 22 vets commit suicide a day

Saw the info when a friend shared it on Facebook. I was shocked & went to their page to find out more & it has a link to a supposedly VA study but the link does not work. Someone told them about the broken link & they said to go to their webpage www.thankavet.us to pledge.

Anyone know if this VA report is accurate? 22 vets commit suicide everyday?
__________________
"Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-13-2013, 7:00 PM
Linh's Avatar
Linh Linh is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,251
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WokMaster1 View Post
Saw the info when a friend shared it on Facebook. I was shocked & went to their page to find out more & it has a link to a supposedly VA study but the link does not work. Someone told them about the broken link & they said to go to their webpage www.thankavet.us to pledge.

Anyone know if this VA report is accurate? 22 vets commit suicide everyday?
What VA report? You haven't provided any.

I do know that the suicide death was higher than combat death last year.

While we're at this. Does Dorner count as a suicide?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-13-2013, 7:50 PM
WokMaster1's Avatar
WokMaster1 WokMaster1 is offline
Part time Emperor
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,441
iTrader: 17 / 100%
Default

Sorry. But was there a VA report?
__________________
"Good friends, good food & good wine. Anything else is just a waste of soy sauce.":)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-18-2013, 11:32 AM
firefly4322 firefly4322 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

the report actually says that its between 18-22 per day over the past 12 years and that its declined slightly with no reference to what is "declined slightly"

Whichever, its absolutely phenomenal to loose 18-22 people a day to suicide...

VA report.

http://www.va.gov/opa/docs/Response-...2012-final.pdf
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-19-2013, 9:59 PM
Hadesomega's Avatar
Hadesomega Hadesomega is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Jose
Posts: 431
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

Must be why the Army is having us do all these suicide prevention classes every couple months...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-21-2013, 11:13 PM
Mickael81's Avatar
Mickael81 Mickael81 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Inland Empire
Posts: 466
iTrader: 11 / 100%
Default

That's, 6,400 veterans a year.....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-02-2013, 11:47 AM
flipdiver's Avatar
flipdiver flipdiver is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Southbay LA
Posts: 232
iTrader: 46 / 100%
Default

1 or 22 a day, numbers don't matter. Its still a very sad situation.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-02-2013, 1:10 PM
steelrain82's Avatar
steelrain82 steelrain82 is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: ventura county
Posts: 3,315
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

Its up from 18 a day in 2010 with only 16 states reporting. The new study is 22-24 states reporting veteran suicides
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-11-2013, 2:29 PM
18Dmedic 18Dmedic is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 601
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

Im not sure about vets out of the service. But It's mandatory counseling that needs to be better implemented. I know after the Ft. Hood incident, they made some counseling requirements but I don't feel it's enough.

We also need better counseling for transitioning members returning to civilian life. I hate to see news of vets dying. We all need it but those guys need it most.

There have been instances where I felt like strangling a civilian. They live in their little bubbles and ignore anything beyond their sphere of influence. They're happy to be in their little world...which was provided for them by the blood and sacrifice of men better then themselves.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-11-2013, 2:41 PM
paul0660's Avatar
paul0660 paul0660 is offline
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ukiah
Posts: 15,706
iTrader: 34 / 100%
Default

Quote:
which was provided for them by the blood and sacrifice of men better then themselves.
Some were better.
__________________
*REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-30-2013, 5:04 PM
Stevod Stevod is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 17
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Try finding the website for Soldier's Project. It's based in Sacramento and is making an effort to deal w/ potential suicides among vets. (Yeah, it says "soldiers" but they'll try to help anybody the can.

I have an old friend who does volunteer work with them, and he sent me a county-by-county map of CA w/ projected/possible suicides. Shocking numbers. If I can find it, I'll pass it along.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-30-2013, 5:09 PM
shooterfpga's Avatar
shooterfpga shooterfpga is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lakeside, CA / Crosby, Tx
Posts: 2,741
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hadesomega View Post
Must be why the Army is having us do all these suicide prevention classes every couple months...
you must mean every week. and then they rotate it with eo, drinking and driving, sexual harrassment, etc ,etc. same old boring classes.
__________________
U.S. Army Combat Engineer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cactuscooler View Post
I have Paramilitary training
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-30-2013, 5:10 PM
bodger's Avatar
bodger bodger is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,858
iTrader: 10 / 100%
Default

I have read that more Vietnam vets have committed suicide than were killed in action during the war. Considering the millions who served during Vietnam, I don't know if roughly 53,000 suicides is a higher percentage than the regular population or not.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-30-2013, 7:15 PM
hnoppenberger's Avatar
hnoppenberger hnoppenberger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange County
Posts: 1,406
iTrader: 62 / 100%
Default

Im going to chime in on the vietnam stats. I was raised by a vietnam vet (67-68) One time (and he never talked much about it) he told me at an air base after most of the cong assaults were stopped (tet) they had so many friendly KIA's that they had no where to put em, and not enough planes to get em out of country. hundreds and hundreds of dead americans everywhere for weeks, victor charlie just got bulldozed into pits pretty quick.
American KIA's during tet (couple months) are about as much men we have lost in the entire war on terror.

And everytime (about once a month) he came back to the airbase at danang, the graves registration was always full to capacity during his entire tour. US aircraft went down all the time as well- jets, choppers, bombers- crazy amounts of casualties. Also makes mention of the traps and improvised anti personnel devices that gave everyone nightmares. Everyone lost alot of friends in nam, I don't think people give it enough credit how full scale it was.
Couple that with the outright bull**** on the civilian side of things at the time, I have an obvious soft spot for the vets of that era over others. The combat vets that I have talked to from nam are fuked mentally from it in much different and worse way than buddies of mine from the middle east. It took the old man over 30 years before he could tell me about vietnam, but I am very glad he did.

If you know someone that is having a hard time, please try to help them.

No one gave a **** after nam, there was no wounded warrior project, no VA mental health aid. How many vets had cancer from bathing in agent orange that no one gave a **** about, or laughed at for "losing it over there"? Lets all be glad it might be better for the heros of today.

Last edited by hnoppenberger; 04-30-2013 at 7:26 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-30-2013, 8:20 PM
bodger's Avatar
bodger bodger is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 5,858
iTrader: 10 / 100%
Default

^^^^^^^^^^^
I'm still appealing my service connected disability claim. "Delay, Deny, and Hope They Die".

Thanks for your post. And thanks to your dad for his service.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:58 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.