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Old 04-19-2013, 8:43 AM
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Breaking News - BOSTON - Riot by Right Wing Extremists Results in Deaths of Enforcement Officers.

Scores Killed, Hundreds Injured As Para-Military Extremists Riot
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BOSTON, April 19 -- National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned military-style assault weapons, and ammunition that were reportedly being held at a National Guard armory, were ambushed today by elements of a para-military extremist faction.

Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 people were killed and more than 200 others were injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, the Massachusetts Governor declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to a radical right-wing tax-protestors movement. The govonor also blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices.

The governor, who described the group's organizers as "criminals," issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government's efforts to secure law and order or enforce the new gun-control laws and the military-style weapons ban.

The government raid on the extremist's arsenal followed widespread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed military-style weapons after the govonor had issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier this week. This decision followed a meeting in early April between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that "none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily."

Government troops had initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of
outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize a second cache of arms and ammunition in Lexington were met with resistance from the heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government's plans.

During a tense standoff in Lexington's town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange.

Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces overmatched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat. Smith said his forces will return with reenforcements.

Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage has called upon all citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. It is still the governors intention to disarm and prossecute those who have resisted the military-style arms ban and other 'sensible' restrictions.

The governor has also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops. The public is asked to immidiately report directly to local authorities if they locate Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, or John Hancock. These men have been identified as "ringleaders" of the extremist faction and they remain at large.

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I'd suggest that the feds look into a guy named Ben Franklin. He's probably one of the ring's masterminds.
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Breaking News - BOSTON - Riot by Right Wing Extremists Results in Deaths of Enforcement Officers.......
.....not very good timing on the post op, IMHO.
...and OT......
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Timing? April 19 IS the anniv of the events above. I have had a note on my keyboard for weeks to post this today. The fact is that we need to be ready to deal with a media spin like this right now. In fact it has already begun, and sadly, in the same place. As for OT - hardly.
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.....not very good timing on the post op, IMHO.
...and OT......
I agree, with what is actually happening in Boston right now...
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.....not very good timing on the post op, IMHO.
...and OT......
phew!

Perfect timing.
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This thread is a perfect microcosm of this forum. Makes you proud and disgusted at the same time.
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Perhaps if the good people of Boston were free to exercise their 2A civil rights as they personally choose, the 2 bombers would have never felt brazen enough to venture into public.

Perhaps an armed citizen could have stopped them. The police are REALLY good at solving crimes and REALLY terrible at preventing crimes.

This thread is perfect for the 2A forum and its timing is spot on.

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Look, I understand the theme of the post, but.....you do realize that an "extremist" (of the Chechen and probably Muslim variety), did kill an MIT LEO last night, in Boston,
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I'd suggest that the feds look into a guy named Ben Franklin. He's probably one of the ring's masterminds.
That might be funny if two cops had not been shot, one of the officers now dead.
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Great Post! Not a thing wrong with the timing of the post. Just because some whack jobs went and blew some innocents up does not mean the law abiding need to restrain from lawful activity, political correctness or timing be damned.
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Perhaps if the good people of Boston were free to exercise their 2A civil rights as they personally choose, the 2 bombers would have never felt brazen enough to venture into public.

Perhaps an armed citizen could have stopped them. The police are REALLY good at solving crimes and REALLY terrible at preventing crimes.

This thread is perfect for the 2A forum and its timing is spot on.

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For the most part i understand what you are saying. However, in cases like this, not so much. You can put the the United States Military and arm everyone all over Boston and still not prevent this kind of stuff. See Baghdad and Kabul.

I do believe that we should ban and or register nails, glass and pressure cookers however. Oh and backpacks too.
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FWIW the post is NOT a "joke" nor is it meant in the main to be humorous. The piece suggests we need to be very careful about what we believe when the media (who I need not tell any of you shows its anti 2nd proclivity at every tragic opportunity) is telling us 'really' happened.

I am the last one that would ever be dismissive of the death of an LE officer performing his duties constitutionally like the MIT cop was. I will not trot out my bona-fides here but any suggestion I am anti-LE would be laughable at best and insulting.

The piece is old. I first saw it on USENET many years ago. I tuned a little bit but it retains its original flavor and most of the original words. The way I read it, it is directed toward the whole "public-perception because of media influence subject". It is neither anti-cop nor insensitive.

The "Too late" parody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg) I tacked on to the post was posted on YouTube 3+ years ago.

As for the timing, I did not time Lexington and Concord or the American Revolution 236 years ago. I just posted on the anniversary of the real event that kicked off a revolution.
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I agree with the OP, there is nothing wrong with observing this day in history. Are we supposed to ignore our American Heritage and History just because some terrorist *****holes made a strike against this great nation? If anything we should not even appear shaken and continue to rejoice in our history and pride. This is just my personal opinion, I know that many people feel that due to the timing of all of this that a certain amount of sensitivity should be maintained and I agree, but remembering a specific event in American history that is part of how this nation came to be is not wrong.
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Wow, I think some people on here need to crack open a history book. As OP said, he didn't time the American Revolution.
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Also the anniversary of the Waco Branch Davidian massacre, and the Oklahoma City Bombing.

18 years ago today, I was living in Oklahoma City. I was awakened by a loud boom.
A short while later I learned that there was a bombing in Downtown Oklahoma City.
Having received my EMT certification a short while earlier, I headed downtown.
At the medical staging area I ran into a friend who was a nurse. She escorted me past the police barricade, and I helped set up the triage area. Fortunately, there were enough ambulances available that they were able to load the injured and transport them as fast as they were able to extricate them. I have been back to Oklahoma City several times since then, but have never been able to bring myself to go to the memorial that now stands on the blast site.
The 9/11 attack brought back the same feelings as the OKC bombing. Now the Boston Marathon attack has brought them back again. A feeling of wanting to be able to take action, but knowing there is no action that can be taken.
God bless the survivors of all of these attacks and their families, and all those whose first instict is to head towards the fray.
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As for the timing, I did not time Lexington and Concord or the American Revolution 236 years ago. I just posted on the anniversary of the real event that kicked off a revolution.
You are correct, and I'm not one to be politically correct by any means, I just hate to give the anti's any more ammunition than they already have. I suppose I should amend my comments to just state that the timing of the whole situation sucks, and not your timing. It is a good post, and absent the events of yesterday and this week, I'd be more enthused about it.
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Photoguy - we are on the same side. No antipathy for you from me. :-)
And the antis don't need me to attempt to dishonesltly foul up people's perception of reality.
The piece itself is all about out-of-context reporting and facts presented wrongly :-)
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Great post! Although I can understand how some may feel the timing is poor, there is life outside of current events however.
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ptoguy2002;11132842].....not very good timing on the post op, IMHO.
...and OT......[/QUOTE]

On the contrary. Its perfect timing. The liberal media and our government exercise no judgment in its use of information to support its own causes. This is just the gun rights supporters doing the same thing.
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I agree, with what is actually happening in Boston right now...
Has anyone else astounded by how insanely contrived the events surrounding the Boston Marathon bombing have been?

Terrorist bombing at Boston Marathon on Patriot's day.
Images of victim with legs blown off, heroic immagring figure wearing a jaunty cowboy hat holding the tourniquet that's keeping him alive.
Victim in hospital tells police he looked into the eyes of the bomber moments before it happened.
Manhunt begins for 'Russian' extremists. Older, brutish figure, boxer and younger brother who idolizes him, a brilliant engineer. Possibly radical Islamists.
Insane action on MIT campus. Brothers possibly planting bombs for another attack. Haplass guard murdered in cold blood. Car-jacking of police SUV, stolen guns, car chases, automatic weapons fire, bombs/grenades.
Older brother gunned down, younger brother escapes.
City goes into lockdown, SWAT and military comb every house and yard.
What's the brilliant, grief-stricken younger brother going to do to avenge the death of his idol?

All on the anniversary of the 'shot heard round the world'???

It it were a movie, I'd be rolling my eyes at the abuse of tropes.
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FWIW the post is NOT a "joke" nor is it meant in the main to be humorous. The piece suggests we need to be very careful about what we believe when the media (who I need not tell any of you shows its anti 2nd proclivity at every tragic opportunity) is telling us 'really' happened.

I am the last one that would ever be dismissive of the death of an LE officer performing his duties constitutionally like the MIT cop was. I will not trot out my bona-fides here but any suggestion I am anti-LE would be laughable at best and insulting.

The piece is old. I first saw it on USENET many years ago. I tuned a little bit but it retains its original flavor and most of the original words. The way I read it, it is directed toward the whole "public-perception because of media influence subject". It is neither anti-cop nor insensitive.

The "Too late" parody (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg) I tacked on to the post was posted on YouTube 3+ years ago.

As for the timing, I did not time Lexington and Concord or the American Revolution 236 years ago. I just posted on the anniversary of the real event that kicked off a revolution.
This isn't media, this is how all history throughout history has been written. By the victors.
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That might be funny if two cops had not been shot, one of the officers now dead.
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Sure I do. And this thread and many posts in it are a good example of bad timing and bad taste.
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History is not bad timing. Thanks OP.
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This thread is a perfect microcosm of this forum. Makes you proud and disgusted at the same time.
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Perhaps if the good people of Boston were free to exercise their 2A civil rights as they personally choose, the 2 bombers would have never felt brazen enough to venture into public.

Perhaps an armed citizen could have stopped them. The police are REALLY good at solving crimes and REALLY terrible at preventing crimes.

This thread is perfect for the 2A forum and its timing is spot on.

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Yep...that would certainly have solved the problem. If the problem was someone carrying a kitchen appliance in public...obviously a BOMB!...unholster and engage! Don't worry about the thousands of folks in the background...don't worry about someone else with a piece who then see's you firing and KNOWS that you're a BAD GUY with a GUN.
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Sure I do. And this thread and many posts in it are a good example of bad timing and bad taste.
its bad timing/bad taste because something happened in 1775 and was rude enough to do it on the same day that something would happen in 2013? You cant be serious
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Well, I am not going to 'defend the post' on the taste and timing issue any futher than to state simply that - if we refused to talk about sensitive matters every single time something bad happened that our opponents could use bad logic to tie us to, we'd pretty much have to shut this forum down. Every single day someone gets knifed, poisoned, bludgeoned, shot, blown up, or has their civil rights taken away by opressors. I wonder if the vitriol would be as thick if today was the Fourth of July (Independence Day) and there had been a similar event last week...

The POINT of the post had not a thing to do with the week's events especially the Marathon bombings, but rather the hay that certain politicans make out of EVERY tragedy and then feed to the media in general.

The missive simply points out how perceptions of those days in the 1700's might have been sculpted by the government using a willing (or lazy) media if they were to have happened in 2013.

If one thinks even deeper, the piece also points out how our forefathers (the common man not just the hot headed revolutionaries like Adams et al) may have reacted differently than we would to such an oppressive act nowadays. Can you see common citizens of today coming out en-masse with "goose guns" and all other manner of assorted weaponry to fight if the government was to declare a rifle/ammo ban and then march troops into local gunshops or a gun show with the intent of depriving people of commonly used arms today?

THATS the point of the piece. It's nothing to do with Mass except for the fact that our country was born from resisting gun control in Massachusetts!
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The OP was well written and an interesting modern journalistic slant on the "shot heard round the world".

The coincidence of the marathon bombing with the anniversary of the beginning of the Revolutionary War is just that...coincidental.
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CG thanx for posting this reminder of the day ave folks took up arms against Royal Blood and succeeded in establishing the only free nation on planet earth.

I celebrate " THE SHOT HEARD ROUND THE WORLD "

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Old 04-19-2013, 3:23 PM
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COULD THIS MEAN A NEW CIVIL WAR?? JUST MY TWO CENTS..
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"By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
***Their flag to Aprilís breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood
***And fired the shot heard round the world."

Thanks OP!
Remembering our history will never be "in bad taste."
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I agree with the above that the opposition to the article reeks of hypocritical political correctness. The same type of political correctness that "conservatives" are always screaming at "liberals" for committing.

The founding of this nation is one of the most significant events in human history and should not be subject to people who think that their feelings should override it's observance.
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Breaking News - BOSTON - Riot by Right Wing Extremists Results in Deaths of Enforcement Officers.

Scores Killed, Hundreds Injured As Para-Military Extremists Riot
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BOSTON, April 19 --

Adams, Hancock, and Revere are considered armed and extremely dangerous.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfRaWAtBVg
That wasn't a bad song. I'm looking forward to the new version......
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:11 PM
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Wow, I think some people on here need to crack open a history book. As OP said, he didn't time the American Revolution.
Maybe he was reincarnated?
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