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Old 04-14-2013, 6:25 PM
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Default DAP Match 4/14/13

Here is a video of my match today at USI in Concord. I did much better today compared to last week. I adjusted my sights this match from left eye to right eye, so every once in a while you will see my head readjust as I need to realign my sights. Also need to do better at counting my rounds. I had way to many slide lock reloads.


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I hate to keep bagging on your local range but I hope you get exposed to something better. Seems "hard" to them is 25-40 yrd shots and they just keep hammering that to death. Is there any where that puts on real matches close to you?

It looks like someone just put up a few targets at a dump site and called USPSA. At least this time there seemed to be a few moving targets and thought into the stages. I guess I only know what I have seen and was first introduced into probably the best USPSA club I have ever seen. Our guy puts on one killer match and when he isnt there its pretty obvious when we see the stages. Sometimes he is out competing at big matches and others do the setup but its not the same.

Here is a stage from our match for comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNnKlnsrxIw

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Old 04-14-2013, 8:18 PM
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Give it a rest, buddy. You're not representing Norco shooters well.
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Give it a rest, buddy. You're not representing Norco shooters well.
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I hate to keep bagging on your local range but I hope you get exposed to something better. Seems "hard" to them is 25-40 yrd shots and they just keep hammering that to death. Is there any where that puts on real matches close to you?

It looks like someone just put up a few targets at a dump site and called USPSA. At least this time there seemed to be a few moving targets and thought into the stages. I guess I only know what I have seen and was first introduced into probably the best USPSA club I have ever seen. Our guy puts on one killer match and when he isnt there its pretty obvious when we see the stages. Sometimes he is out competing at big matches and others do the setup but its not the same.

Here is a stage from our match for comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNnKlnsrxIw
Wow, just wow!

Where do you start with such an ignorant and arrogant statement?
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Old 04-15-2013, 5:21 AM
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I just hope the OP gets exposed to a real USPSA match. It seems he changed the name to "action gun" so maybe its not meant to be USPSA. I do know they cant be using that terminology without paying and joining the organization. If its just some fun stages and guys getting together to shoot then thats cool. I guess I am confused as to what we are watching.

By the way OP you actually are shooting quite well. You would really enjoy a USPSA club if you have one locally. I guess I am just spoiled having started where I have.
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I just hope the OP gets exposed to a real USPSA match. It seems he changed the name to "action gun" so maybe its not meant to be USPSA. I do know they cant be using that terminology without paying and joining the organization. If its just some fun stages and guys getting together to shoot then thats cool. I guess I am confused as to what we are watching.

By the way OP you actually are shooting quite well. You would really enjoy a USPSA club if you have one locally. I guess I am just spoiled having started where I have.
This Club is an excellent starting point for entry level shooters who are looking to get their feet wet at action shooting without having to run with the "meat eater's" at a USPSA affiliated club. Some join USPSA (some dont) and shoot at other clubs in the area while still going back to USI for fun... Many shooters that started there have reached the top ranks of USPSA and Multi-gun....!!!!
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Diablo Action Pistol is the name of the club that hosts the events. They are USPSA style matches. From what I have been told the only reason that they are not a USPSA sanctioned club is because the people who run the entire facility require that only members of the supporting clubs are allowed to shoot on the action pistol range. This is trying to be changed but in all likely hood wont be.

There are a great bunch of men and women that shoot there and we had a good time. Yes some stages are harder or setup better then others but that goes will all the clubs I have seen. Not everyone is going to like a particular stage. I might hate a stage someone else likes and vis versa.

As far as this shoot went I need to get used to the sight change and I need to remember to reload more often while moving. I had way to many standing reloads and it cost me a lot of time. But that will come with more practice and also more mag pouches, since I only currently use 4 and keep keep my extra 2 in my back pocket.
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I cant see your paper hits but on steel I can tell you most people here wouldnt finish that plate rack in 2 mags. Not to mention they seem to torture shooters and put them really far out. Good job!

About how many yards out is that steel?
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I cant see your paper hits but on steel I can tell you most people here wouldnt finish that plate rack in 2 mags. Not to mention they seem to torture shooters and put them really far out. Good job!

About how many yards out is that steel?
On stage 1 the steel is about 15yards, and on stage 4 it is about the same for all of the steel. Stage 5 the plate rack is about 7-10 yards.

The plate rack on stage 4 gave most people a hard time. I think it had more to do with having to lean out on your weak side for the shot. I was there on Thursday when the stage was setup and got to practice on it. I had already known about being left eye dominant but it was very apparent when I ran that stage on thursday. That is when I started to try and correct my sights by taping over my left eye. That actually helped me a lot.
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I heard those helmet cams make things look far so I guess that's the case.

That eye dominance thing is hard to deal with.
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I heard those helmet cams make things look far so I guess that's the case.

That eye dominance thing is hard to deal with.
Yeah they really do. I remember some of the first videos I ever saw and thought that wow that is a long distance, then after I ran a few stages and filmed them and saw how the video looked afterwards I found it was an effect of the wide angle lens on the GoPro cameras. I am going to try a Contuer camera on my next event and see how that looks. Having a friend who is a sports action producer with access to a ton of different cameras comes in handy.
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This Club is an excellent starting point for entry level shooters who are looking to get their feet wet at action shooting without having to run with the "meat eater's" at a USPSA affiliated club. Some join USPSA (some dont) and shoot at other clubs in the area while still going back to USI for fun... Many shooters that started there have reached the top ranks of USPSA and Multi-gun....!!!!
BS!!! I've seen you and Todd shoot. If you guys are representative of typical DAP shooters..........






well then that's pretty awesome. Both DAP and Richmond are pretty friendly clubs. If a stage happened to be very challenging, top shooters such as you and Todd are more than helpful with getting newer shooters up to speed with great tips and ideas.

I see no need to bag on other local areas clubs and stages. Every place offers different challenges and stage designs (unless shooting qualifiers). For instance, you SoCal guys have way better (longer) ranges for 3-gun. In our area it's mostly hoser distances for 3-gun and we have to get creative to add wrinkles and challenges.
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BS!!! I've seen you and Todd shoot. If you guys are representative of typical DAP shooters..........

Don't forget Chris, USPSA Multi-Gun National Champion. He stated as DAP too

A Really hard stage now and then at local clubs isn't a completely bad thing. Think about it, where do you want to shoot your first really hard stage, at a local club match or a National level match? If you shoot at Richmond regularly you will never go to an Area match or Nationals and face something harder.
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Don't forget Chris, USPSA Multi-Gun National Champion. He stated as DAP too

A Really hard stage now and then at local clubs isn't a completely bad thing. Think about it, where do you want to shoot your first really hard stage, at a local club match or a National level match? If you shoot at Richmond regularly you will never go to an Area match or Nationals and face something harder.
Yeah, I forgot. Chris sucks too. :-P And don't forget Rob Romero of Noveske fame came from around these parts as well.

SoCal's got some awesome shooters also, so no I'm not bagging their club in kind.

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And don't forget Rob Romero of Noveske fame came from around these parts as well.
Rob was a "B" when he moved to Georgia. Maybe Georgia has the best clubs ..lol

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What, guys with weird names like Jojo, Taran, Voight? What to they know
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I hate to keep bagging on your local range but I hope you get exposed to something better. Seems "hard" to them is 25-40 yrd shots and they just keep hammering that to death. Is there any where that puts on real matches close to you?

It looks like someone just put up a few targets at a dump site and called USPSA. At least this time there seemed to be a few moving targets and thought into the stages. I guess I only know what I have seen and was first introduced into probably the best USPSA club I have ever seen. Our guy puts on one killer match and when he isnt there its pretty obvious when we see the stages. Sometimes he is out competing at big matches and others do the setup but its not the same.

Here is a stage from our match for comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNnKlnsrxIw

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LOL, I am over it and hope the OP gets some good exposure to USPSA. Glad I could finally get a thread going and all you guys excited. Its been dead here lately.


I did learn not to buy a GoPro. I was told they give wrong dept perception but man 15yrds sure looks like 40yrds in those vids.
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I too started at DAP.. and when I felt it was time to move up, I progressed to Richmond.. I still drop into DAP now and then.. mostly I like Richmond now because it's closer...
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I too started at DAP.. and when I felt it was time to move up, I progressed to Richmond.. I still drop into DAP now and then.. mostly I like Richmond now because it's closer...
I currently shoot at both. DAP is closer for me but I like Richmond. I plan to shoot at Richmond more often. I would like to get classified and the goal is to shoot at the Golden Bullet next year.
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and to keep this thread going, here's a video of this DAP looser shooting the SMM3G this year

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Diablo Action Pistol is the name of the club that hosts the events. They are USPSA style matches. From what I have been told the only reason that they are not a USPSA sanctioned club is because the people who run the entire facility require that only members of the supporting clubs are allowed to shoot on the action pistol range. This is trying to be changed but in all likely hood wont be.
So if a card carrying USPSA member shows up for the DAP match, they wouldn't be allowed to shoot it? This is confusing because neither USI Concord nor DAP are listed on the USPSA website. I don't get it.
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and to keep this thread going, here's a video of this DAP looser shooting the SMM3G this year
Man on Fire Run! SMM3G is over the top for 3 Gun. I think way better than the Nationals.
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So if a card carrying USPSA member shows up for the DAP match, they wouldn't be allowed to shoot it? This is confusing because neither USI Concord nor DAP are listed on the USPSA website. I don't get it.
Don't ask us, we don't understand it either. You have to be a member of the club, something about the clubs insurance
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Don't ask us, we don't understand it either. You have to be a member of the club, something about the clubs insurance
You righteous USPSA shooters need to get control of this. We had the same issue at Apple Valley Gun Club many years ago, had to pitch out the 89 year olds and get some younger ones in, well, then I was in my 50's...
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I started at DAP - remember my 1st match; had to shoot it without a DQ otherwise I would have to retake the qualifying (aka water board) class. 1st stage for me included a plate rack, standing on a wobble board, shooting weak hand, at (seemed like) 10 yards. oh yeah strong hand was holding a margarita and if you spilled a drop you DQed (kidding on this but the wobble board & plate rack were true). Now Richmond is totally different beast. BTW I shot once down at NORCO (JJ was in my squad and helped me out a great deal). The stages were challenging & fun but no comparison to Richmond's imagination. You NORCO shooters should make a road trip up to Richmond IMHO.

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You righteous USPSA shooters need to get control of this. We had the same issue at Apple Valley Gun Club many years ago, had to pitch out the 89 year olds and get some younger ones in, well, then I was in my 50's...
Its been brought up a couple of times that this is sometimes limiting but the club is self contained so to speak, Shooters are classified just like USPSA but it stays in our little world... does it suck? sure but till we can get some heads on a different thinking path we have to work with what we got.

The club does well and I think is fine, we see a fair amount of shooters from Richmond and likewise a number go over there to change it up.

Last match we had 71 shooters and the most I remember is just north of 100. If anyone ever needs more info feel free to PM me and Ill get you answers back ASAP.
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The club does well and I think is fine
This is an understatement to say the least. They have a 50" flat screen for shooter orientation classes and at the last match it was announced "to get a handle on finances we will be LOWERING the match fee to $10". There's talk of buying a bunch of iPads and Practiscore software to make scoring easier.

The club is doing just fine thank you very much
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This is an understatement to say the least. They have a 50" flat screen for shooter orientation classes and at the last match it was announced "to get a handle on finances we will be LOWERING the match fee to $10". There's talk of buying a bunch of iPads and Practiscore software to make scoring easier.

The club is doing just fine thank you very much
Well Im trying to be humble... There are plenty of other things coming down the pipe that will have DAP shooters more than happy to keep coming and shooting there.
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