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Old 04-02-2008, 1:08 PM
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Hi Folks,
I just came back from BIG 5 and they have a CAI Romanian PAR1 rifle for sale in 7.62 x 39R. I have done a search for BIG 5 and PAR1 and came up with nothing notable. I have attached some photos, where am I missing the boat here? As configured is this an AW? Pistol grip, Detachable magazine??? Please help, my head is spinning... I asked the manager if it was an assault weapon, and he said no because it is not "FULLY" automatic...







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It is not an AW because it is a pump action, not semi-auto.
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Its a pump. Pump actions can have any tactical parts it wants, even poop launcher with a picture of an anti gun politician on it. Its semi auto rifles in California you have to be careful about.
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Pump not semi auto, and which big 5? Location? Thats not a bad deal?
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Thanks for putting it straight. It looks like a fun gun.
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There are some type lug or mounting unit on the other side by the reciever anybody know what it is for? I did not take a picture of it. Do you know where you could get a 10/30 round mag for this?
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can that be convereted to a semi auto?
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There are some type lug or mounting unit on the other side by the reciever anybody know what it is for? I did not take a picture of it.

Without seeing it, it sounds like the scope mount.
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This thread is hilarious.

"Why is the pump action rifle not an 'assault weapon?'"
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I also heard that you can put almost anything on the front, including a live weasel and it would still be legal.
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I also heard that you can put almost anything on the front, including a live weasel and it would still be legal.
Yes, and the weasel can be used as a vertical forward grip. As long as the weasel is not a destructive device, it can be legally mounted. I wouldn't put "mounting a weasel" past too many people on this forum.
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Without seeing it, it sounds like the scope mount.
Yes, it is a side scope mount.

The PAR-1 rifles are great novetly guns. They are decent...not as accurate as a regular AK because the rear sight is on the top cover (not as rigid as mounted on the front trunion), and is crudly welded on. The barrel is rough, but decent as well. The pump action is surprisingly smooth.

First of all, the Century PAR-1 is not on the "banned by name" list. It is a pump action rifle so it is excempt from classification by SB23 as an AW. You can put as many "evil" features as you like as long as it is kept in a pump action configuration.
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I also heard that you can put almost anything on the front, including a live weasel and it would still be legal.
It would go nice with your hollowed out dildo.
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$259.00? Hell no! You can get a Saiga for that. I'll give them $150 for it.
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It would go nice with your hollowed out dildo.
You all beat me to busting out the weasel/dildo quote!

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not ferrets... they aint legal here...
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does anyone know if big5 sells the mags for these separately
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Your asking if Big 5 sells mags? HAHAHA your joking right?
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If you're looking for a real 100% (well, except 922r parts) Romanian rifle without the receiver being f***ed up like the WASR-10, it's fairly easy to convert these to semi-auto. Heck you could just press out the barrel assembly, measure the length from the face of the chamber to the barrel pin cutout with a caliper, and sort through a few Romie G kit barrels ($50 at Copes IIRC) for one that matches. This will provide for the same headspace. Press the matching barrel in and add some US made parts for 922r, make sure no pistol grip or lock in a 10 round mag. Vola! Romanian FACTORY RECEIVER semi-auto AK for ~$400 +/-
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Big 5 does sells mags. I saw mags for Marlin, 10-22 and Savage. All 22LRs.
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That rifle is only good for the receiver assembly and rear end.
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Buy a real gun and try to avoid big 5. There is only a few guns that are decent but you would be better off going to a real gun store or gun show.
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i built 2 romys for less than that. pump ak, oh the humanity! what's next, lever action 1919?
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i built 2 romys for less than that. pump ak, oh the humanity! what's next, lever action 1919?
But were the receivers made in a Romanian factory that produces rifles for the military?
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You poor guys with the mag blues. Us old farts have mags covered. I bought mags before the ban for guns I didn't own. Why because they are good trade value. Ten yrs ago it was not uncommon to see Hi caps for $150-$200 each.
Maybe we'll have a shoot and I will share some of my magazines and my REG AW
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are they still selling par 1's at any of the big 5 stores in Monterrey county?
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I hear all you guys putting the bad word on the Par1. Do you own one? Have you ever shot one? Not every gun in your collection has to be a doomsday gun, it's alright to have one for fun. My son and I both have one and they are great fun.
We were all on the edge of our seats for almost a year (the date of the last post in this thread) waiting to hear your response about PAR-1 butchered pump action AKs. Thank you for giving us your opinion of the PAR-1. I think I am going to dump my real AK type rifle and get a pump action one instead.
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We were all on the edge of our seats for almost a year (the date of the last post in this thread) waiting to hear your response about PAR-1 butchered pump action AKs. Thank you for giving us your opinion of the PAR-1. I think I am going to dump my real AK type rifle and get a pump action one instead.
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