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Old 03-03-2013, 12:40 PM
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Steiner shares a building with Burris in Greely, Colorado. Both companies are owned by Berrata Holding company.

Steiner says parts are from Germany and they are assembled in Greely. Do not know anything about Burris parts or assembly. I've not been there myself so who knows who does what or where. We only "know what we are told".
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Old 03-12-2013, 7:39 PM
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this thread went off topic in a hurry. If you want to understand why some scopes cost $3k or more (or the purported MAP of $7k for the new Hensoldt mentioned in one of the posts), then you might wish to Google for the excellent optics reviews posted by Ilya Koshkin.

When it comes to products of European mfg., it's common for them to cost more than similar products from Japan or the US. Like cars. Like optics.

Premier Heritage makes an excellent product. So does Audi. Does that mean that a PH scope or an Audi S4 is worth what they cost to you? Only you can decide that. But for any of you to denigrate any of these products in the hands of another user is simply a waste of time. Hell's bells, half of the USA voted for the clown currently holding down the POTUS job. It's not about logic.

The bottom line is to buy gear that you can afford -- FIRST and FOREMOST -- and then hope it's good enough to do what you need it to do. If it isn't good enough, then save your money.
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Old 03-12-2013, 9:29 PM
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Originally Posted by HK Dave View Post
The thing is... that can be said about almost everything you probably own.... including your Zeiss scope.

What may seem crazy to you, doesn't mean it is.

I think people that dump $30K into their $20K japanese car are DAFT, but to them, it's not crazy at all. :P
oh damn - you got me pegged (but it was the other way around)... guns, cars, tattoos & guitars... I need to find cheaper interests (knitting is cheap right? )

*ETA: regarding the better equipment, better performance debate... I'd have to agree that (in my experience, with interests listed above), better equipment does improve performance... having that been said, getting good with chitty equipment, makes you that much better when you use good stuff (opinion based on real world experience in racing cars, playing guitar and shooting).
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Old 03-13-2013, 10:45 AM
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Actually, I tried to take up making things out of paracord... but that got boring really fast and I went straight back to shooting. :P

I do however miss how excited I was when I got my first $300 Nikon scope. Life was miraculous and exciting and I got to see at like 9x magnification! NOTHING COULD STOP ME!!!!

Now I own Premier, S&B, Nightforce etc... and none excite me like that $300 Nikon did....
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