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Old 03-01-2013, 2:21 PM
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Default Sported Swedish Mauser--Range report!

A few years ago I got this sported M38 Swedish Mauser. Stock cut down, drilled and tapped for a scope base. Barrel is 24" and appears to be an original barrel, because it has the threads for the BFA.

It is a shame what was done to this rifle...I would never have done this myself. It is an all numbers match (for everything that is still there) Obendorf (s/n57458) that appears to have been converted to an M38 configuration. Bore looks great.

I'm intending to go ahead and mount a scope on this to see how it shoots and if it is a good shooter, to put it into a military stock and shoot it at the vintage military silhouette match in the open category.

The front scope base holes are approximately .875" apart, the rear holes approximately .50" apart. Anyone know what mount would fit those hole spacings?
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That looks like it was absolutely beautiful when still original. Oh well, I'm sure its still a great shooter.
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Someone did a nice job of turning down the bolt handle. While its a shame that its not in its original configuration, it will probably be an excellent shooter.
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Looks like a sporter class rifles to challenge my 7.62x39mm bolt gun?
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My 2nd Swedish Mauser purchased in 1969 had the original bolt handle forged down, too. At some point in the early 90s before I became a born-again gun collector I drilled & tapped it myself. This rifle was very accurate with the m/38 dial sight using Hornady 100 gr. It was a coyote's nightmare out beyond 250 yds being so flat shooting. I never grouped it on paper until I put this Tasco 6-18x44 scope on it. It'll shoot sub-MOA with cast bullets and jacketed. Best so far has been Hornady 160 gr round nose, which is about my favorite 6.5x55 bullet.

1915 Carl Gustaf elm stocked. There were not many m/38 or m/96 in the US prior to GCA68. I paid $65 for this in 1969.

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I appreciate the invite, Frank, but I've already ordered a replacement military stock for it from Numerich. If it is a good shooter, I'll restock it and give it a whirl in the "open" military rifle class.

My sons are already making eyes at my Persian "open" rifle...
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My 2nd Swedish Mauser purchased in 1969 had the original bolt handle forged down, too. At some point in the early 90s before I became a born-again gun collector I drilled & tapped it myself. This rifle was very accurate with the m/38 dial sight using Hornady 100 gr. It was a coyote's nightmare out beyond 250 yds being so flat shooting. I never grouped it on paper until I put this Tasco 6-18x44 scope on it. It'll shoot sub-MOA with cast bullets and jacketed. Best so far has been Hornady 160 gr round nose, which is about my favorite 6.5x55 bullet.

1915 Carl Gustaf elm stocked. There were not many m/38 or m/96 in the US prior to GCA68. I paid $65 for this in 1969.

Very nice looking Swede, Brink

I hope to put mine back in a military stock and getting it looking more like yours. Do you happen to know the hole spacing on your scope bases?

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I have an old NOS Weaver one piece mount #5546 that looks to be 7/8" on the front but being a one piece mount has only one mounting hole in the rear.

That bolt handle has a pretty old look to it so I'd guess yours is an older hack job. Bolt handle looks welded-on and not original, at least from the photos.

Check all the major scope mount makers in the 1960s. One of them will fit perfectly.
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Looks like a sporter class rifles to challenge my 7.62x39mm bolt gun?
If I do enter something in the "sporter" class, I rather thought it would be this one...


Kinda similar to yours in some ways...Yugo 24/47 with a 27" barrel .308 caliber.
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Try Weaver bases. #55 for the rear and #46 for the front.
If they don't fit, you are only out around $10 for both in aluminum. They also offer steel bases for about 12 bucks each.
Hope this helps
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Thanks, Ken

I'll give that combination a try.
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Thanks, Ken

I'll give that combination a try.
I'm ordering from Brownells later this week if you want me to get them for you. Add an "S" in front of the number if you want steel. If you want extended front base the numbers are 406 and S406.
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Thanks, Kendog.

Hey, do you happen to know whether these would fit the the holes drilled on my Swedish Mauser?

http://www.theriflescopestore.com/ma96mafi.html

I like this style of scope mount better than the Weaver style.
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Thanks, Kendog.

Hey, do you happen to know whether these would fit the the holes drilled on my Swedish Mauser?

http://www.theriflescopestore.com/ma96mafi.html

I like this style of scope mount better than the Weaver style.
I don't know. You might call Leupold and ask their hole spacing.
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I finally got a scope mounted on the Sported Swede and got a quick range trip in to see how it shoots. The scope is a Weaver Nitrex 3-9x42.


I didn't have time to work up a load for the rifle, so I took a box of 120 grain Prvi Partizan "match" ammo.

5 rounds @ 100 yards off a sand bag front rest.



I think careful load development could do better.

I had decided that if it shot well as is, I would go ahead and put it in a military stock that I have. I think these results are good enough to proceed with that plan.
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Made a quick stop at the range this morning and fired the sported Swede with a cheek riser pad. I pulled the last shot high, but the rifle seemed to shoot better with the cheek pad.

Here are 5 rounds of Prvi 120 gr "match" ammo At 100 yards



I need to get out with some reloads...I think they would be better.
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Thats a damned fine group, it likes those 120s. My 38 and 96 do best with 140s, my favorite is a 142gr Sierra.
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Not bad at all....
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Thats a damned fine group, it likes those 120s. My 38 and 96 do best with 140s, my favorite is a 142gr Sierra.

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Not bad at all....

Thanks, guys. There was a guy next to me at the range shooting a nice sporting rifle with a great big scope that wasn't getting as good as that group.

Prvi ammo isn't bad, but I've mange to best it, even the "match" Prvi, by handloading. I'm going to try and get to the range again before the military match on Saturday with some 6.5 reloads and zero this thing.
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i have a sporter and an original and they're both stupidly accurate with 140s. i run sierra gamekings because they're about like the matchking, but you could hunt with 'em if you wanted to. gotta get out and shoot again so i can get some targets. i'll dig around and see if i've got an old one about somewhere.
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i have a sporter and an original and they're both stupidly accurate with 140s. i run sierra gamekings because they're about like the matchking, but you could hunt with 'em if you wanted to. gotta get out and shoot again so i can get some targets. i'll dig around and see if i've got an old one about somewhere.
Care to share your favorite load? I've got a bushell of 139 gr PMC bullets and some 140 gr Nosler CC and even a box of 142 gr SMK's.

I've worked up some loads for my Ljungmans with 4064 and Varget using the 139 and 140 gr bullets. Not sure how they will do in my Mauser.
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